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Waterdisport22
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Locked. No further comments permitted.Stunning Covid Chart — Israel vs Sweden
Oct 5 2021 05:44AM more by Waterdisport22
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Israel....with the highest jab rate of ANY country in the world.

Already on their...count it with me class 4th jab......

Israel Covid cases spiked as they began rolling out the third booster.

Sweden, where natural immunity is supreme, had very little rise as Delta struck.


Huh...soooo what does COMMON SENSE tell you.....
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Waterdisport22
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Oct 5 2021 05:48AM     link to this

Sweden just lifted their last restrictions yesterday.

👉 number guests at events is no longer limited,
👉 no longer recommended to work from home and
👉 social distancing requirements disappear.


Common sense is NOT so Common after all......
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imzomnia
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Oct 5 2021 05:53AM     link to this

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Waterdisport22
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Oct 5 2021 06:33AM     link to this

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Maybe.....HOWEVER we have been lied to.

People have lost their livelihoods...


And for what....

Should we just FOLLOW...when the truth tells us otherwise?



Sorry...NOT SORRY.....

Grumpy_Butthead
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Oct 5 2021 06:43AM     link to this

Government at its finest.

It will only become worse
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Oct 5 2021 06:50AM     link to this

Notorious Anti-Mask QAnon Supporter Dies Of Covid
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Waterdisport22
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Oct 5 2021 09:55AM     link to this

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Bet he has underlying health condition....

Average death from covid is 77 years old with underlying health condition.....

Average age someone dies in US.....78.......



PS....Surgical masks do NOT work. They were made for bacteria not virus's.....and a virus is 1,000 times smaller vs bacteria.

Think of it this way.....a surgical mask is like a mosquito flying through a chain link fence.


PPS N95 only work 30-50% of the time....and are SINGLE USE.


Let THAT sink in.
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Oct 5 2021 12:50PM     link to this

YAWN

Go outside and get some air. Fuck, you just never fucking quit. Volunteer, get a job.

Fuck off.
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Oct 5 2021 04:32PM     link to this

A lot of lies are being told in this blog.

1. Israel is not the most vaccinated country in the world. In fact, as of today, Sweden is as vaccinated as Israel, as are other countries. In fact, that may be why Sweden is loosening restrictions. Because over 60% of its people are fully vaccinated.

2. Big recent Bangladesh RCT study of 400,000 people show that masks work at reducing symptomatic cases verified with PCR.

Finally, 40% of Americans have a pre-existing health condition. So it doesn’t matter if they get sick and die? Any death is a tragedy.

I don’t know Waterdisport22’s problem, but he is a liar, and I would not trust anything he says. For all we know, his posts may simply be a gag.

PSHorneycouple
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Oct 5 2021 05:08PM     link to this

NR

"Finally, 40% of Americans have a pre-existing health condition. So it doesn�t matter if they get sick and die? Any death is a tragedy."

Any death is a tragedy. Even those who received a jab and had a side affect.

We're all supposed to get the jab to protect those that are supposed to be "protected". Whos there to protect those that took that risk and got jabbed? No one, they're dead or suffering. Further alienation of the vax versus nonvax will not end in a result anyone wants.

The vaccine is NOT universally safe for every human.

I had a nice screenshot of the latest vaers covid reactions. But would anyone consider it? Probably not. Since everyone here has made up their mind. They'll ride that horse dill they die from covid. Be it a breakthrough or an unvaxxed case.



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Oct 5 2021 05:25PM     link to this

Why is it those who hate these blogs are still drawn in to add their 2 cents?

It's real easy to start you own "show me your tits" blog. But they're still sucked in to make a comment. Also it's real easy to view and never comment. The blog would then just fade off into hx oblivion.
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Oct 5 2021 05:44PM     link to this

"The vaccine is NOT universally safe for every human."

The odds of dying from the vaccine is about 1 in 50,000.

The odds of dying from covid if you are unvaccinated is about 1 in 250.

I'm not a Vegas gambler, but I know where the odds are best.

Get vaccinated already.




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Oct 5 2021 06:03PM     link to this

can you point us to the odds calculations or chart?

is that 1 and 250 for someone that gets covid? or a healthy person(unvax'd) that is not infected?


PSHorneycouple
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Oct 5 2021 06:38PM     link to this

Are all those pushing the vax only looking out for good of the unvaxxed?

Or looking out for themselves by thinking if enough of you are jabbed, "then we'll all be safe".

Its really not an odds game. It is life and death. Many have died because of the virus alone. Some have died because of the vax. Some will die despite getting what they thought was protection.

The problem the way I see it is the forcing people to inject into they're bodies something they don't want. Once we're conditioned to obey this, what's next? The chip to warn the government when you are exposed to the virus or have the virus? Don't think for a minute that this is beneath what government would do.
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Oct 5 2021 06:57PM     link to this

If Sweden is just as vaxxed as Israel. Then why is Isreal struggling with covid as Sweden is reopening with no restrictions? That logic didn't work.

There's no logic to any of the vax BS. But some us keep pushing, "if it worked for them, it'll work for us". Keep believing that while you're in the covid booster line.
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Oct 5 2021 07:31PM     link to this

@Justhavingfun

Last week, deaths per 100k was .22 for both men and women, way under 1 in 250.

Possible all deaths to date is much higher. Or not.

Source, see slide 5 of 7:
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographicsovertime
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Oct 5 2021 07:33PM     link to this

Sweden just went though a wave that ended in June. See pic below showing death rate of Sweden and Israel. The first part was conveniently left out.

Sweden may have another wave eventually.

Anyway, the vaccines did a tremendous job keeping serious cases and deaths down in israel. See pic 2. But the vaccines are not God (100% effective).

The VAERS system just publishes deaths ASSOCIATED temporally with the vaccine. For 99+% of these associations, the vaccine was unlikely the CAUSE.

The media reports on deaths shown to be DUE TO the vaccine. There was just a report today about a Washington woman who died of complications. See link.

If you believe otherwise, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. Just like Waterdisport22 and those anti-vaxx sites have been pulling wool over your eyes.

There's a lot to be concerned about. The half-life of immunity for SARS-Cov-2 is much shorter than for other diseases controlled by vaccines, such as tetanus or pertussis. SARS-CoV-2 is also mutating as quickly as the influenza virus, even quicker initially. This means that to control COVID, like we do for these other diseases, we're going to have to booster much more frequently and update the boosters as well much more frequently. Will the world do what is necessary to contain SARS-CoV-2? Based on the behavior shown by many Americans, the answer is "doubtful." That is a problem which will lead to unnecessarily continuing waves and deaths for years to come.

Waves won't be as frequent or as large, but they still will occur. And unlike the influenza virus, SARS-CoV-2 shows no signs of becoming less virulent innately. True, vaccines and medicines will help in this regard.
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Oct 5 2021 08:41PM     link to this

I don't have any cool graphs or charts. I believe those charts about as much as I believe those fact-checkers sites out there. What agenda are they supporting?

The info that concerns me is an article direct from fda stating there is No long term safety info. That's in addition to the health problems they've already been shown to cause(to some people, we know not everyone) A study done by Salk saying that the damage done by the protein spike in the virus is similar to the damage being caused by the protein spikes generated by the vax. I'll throw in a study about Rna being written back into DNA. I'm not 100 percent on the study, but it's there to be read

Not every unvaxxed blindly believes or has disbelief because of a graph or a news blip on the nightly news. Try not believe anything until you can vet the source.

Those 99 percent of death cases on the vaers that are bogus is a strong statement. Got a graph or a chart for that claim? Who is reseaching those claims? Are they unbiased?

Now we've gotten to a point of terminating Healthcare workers. They've been fighting the virus for 2 years now. Knowing the risks but still showing up to help people. And there are masses out there saying, Yes fire them for not conforming. So it starts with this. Where does it end.

When it comes down to it. Who are we to believe?
Big pharm? Making billions with ZERO RISK
US Government? Cuz they wouldn't lie?
News media? No agenda there right?

All I want is the right to choose . That's now in real jeopardy.

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https://scitechdaily.com/new-discovery-shows-human-cells-can-write-rna-sequences-into-dna-challenges-central-principle-in-biology/
GoBallsDeep
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Oct 5 2021 09:04PM     link to this

Is there a vaccine to prevent people from posting on blogs they hate?
Hyder needs his booster.

Just don't read and don't post, you dumbshit
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Oct 6 2021 06:36AM     link to this

@NR

First of all CNN is far from a reliable source.....shall I start with RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA for 5 years knowing it was NOT true.

And yet parading these idiots on TV at nausea telling us..."Yup its true and we have evidence..."

They have ZERO credibility. ZERO.

LASTLY your charts actually help PROVE my point.

First of all I do NOT give a rats AZZ about CASES....the PCR tests are null n void. Too many false positives and it depends on the cycles at which the test was given.

PLUS....cases of what...a snifle....cough....hell hosptials in the US were about to go UNDER b/c they thought the SURGE was going to happen and it did not in MOST areas. Hospitals shut down thinking they would be over run...not even here in Calif.

Newsom said he would open up calif when we hit 15% vacancy bed rate.

Funny...during NORMAL cold n flu season Calif is about 8-11% available beds. EVERY YEAR.

How convenient for Newsom to have this number.....we were destined NEVER to reach it.


Now to your other chart......the first one...coincides with mine....again proves my point.

The jab is keeping this going.....it was either designed that way or unintended consequences.

You decide....its one or the other.

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Oct 6 2021 06:37AM     link to this

PS Israel is now on their 4th jab......

Check our Einsteins definition of insanity please....and get back to me.
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Oct 6 2021 07:35AM     link to this

^^^^^^^^

Do dead people talk to you.....b/c I have a message for an uncle.....

Let me know.....



Now back to the regularly scheduled programming.....lol
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Oct 6 2021 11:28AM     link to this

This horse is dead....stop beating it.
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Oct 6 2021 11:33AM     link to this

^^^^^^

Sorry no....not until Uncle Joe stops beating it.....

Then I will quit...you are asking the WRONG person.



I did NOT pick this fight....

But I will be sure as hell be the one to finish it....along with the free American people.
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Oct 7 2021 12:03AM     link to this

Curious? Are my points valid or just too new to the circle jerk?
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Oct 7 2021 01:06AM     link to this

@PSHorneyCouple. At least your concern seems genuine and you seem like you want to get down to the answers, as do I.

True, there is no long-term data on specifically COVID vaccines yet. However, there is data on when adverse reactions to vaccines tend to show up, and these tend to be within two months of a vaccine being given to the general population. There aren't any "long term" surprises with vaccines. (Please see link1 for a far more thorough analysis of this).

Secondly, after adverse events, the CDC carefully reviews "clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy and medical records," and has not found a causal link to the 8.164 (0.0021%) reports of deaths except for in the case "between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets." See second link for more information.

Finally, the concern about spike proteins and the danger they may cause with vaccines has been addressed very well by chemist Derek Lowe in the journal Science. Please see link 3.

Thanks.
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Waterdisport22
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Oct 7 2021 08:47AM     link to this

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Sure they do....thats how now Pfizer is submitting for adults as the next group.

When you have over 50,000 dead from the jab.....15,000 2 weeks after taking it and the rest from the jab to 2 weeks.....


Yes....it does make one want to pause.


SAFE....hardly....effective.....not really.......and yet SIT DOWN...SHUT UP....GET JAB


PS

The 1976 Swine flu......I got the flu. We did develop a vaccine for it.....

And....55 people died from the jab....yes 55 people.

The Gov SHUT DOWN taking the shots.


We are over reported 50,000 Americans dead from the jab.....


SAFE....hardly......


So tell me how many people is it that need to die before we stop the jab?

Serious question NR....how many.....500,000....a million.....how many?


And not just taking it....but being FORCED to take it.....aka Los Angeles votes that everyone has to show their papers in order to live.....FFS
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Oct 7 2021 08:03PM     link to this

@NR

Read those links. The Derek Lowe article is the only one I would consider. I'm sure he is an expert in the field. Makes my brain wonder after looking at his background. So many years in drug development. Including 10 years with Bayer. Haven't always heard positive things about Bayer. Maybe its nothing, just things that make me go hmmmmmm?

The article from the children's hospital, well? Kind of comparing apples to oranges. After doing some reading, the covid "vax" really isn't a vaccine. Isnt it more of gene therapy?

The cdc article. Until they stop taking donations from drug companies. They may as well work for them.

The article I linked in prior still is worrisome. Where rna has been found to alter dna
The covid jab really seems to be ripe for long term DNA problems. But, what the hell do I really know. It takes several reads to really comprehend what they're saying. As it's well above my education level.

Maybe I'll just be a skeptic till the end



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Oct 7 2021 10:23PM     link to this

People actually used to argue that it was SAFER to be ejected from a vehicle than to be restrained during a car accident. The entire argument was about one’s freedoms. Today we have the undeniable data showing that it is safer to be restrained than to be ejected. And you all MUST wear a seatbelt.

Can you all please fucking stop with all this stupid Parlor B.S. and quit ruining this site?
If you watch infowars, or CNN just fucking keep it to yourself and preach to your own family and friends. Don’t do it here. It’s fucking lame.
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Oct 7 2021 10:52PM     link to this

Wait just a minute here. Homogeneous, tiny and scandie, I thought it was in the right wing official manifesto that absolutely NOTHING that’s done successfully in Sweden is ever repeatable or scalable to the USA? Ironically that’s probably the case for COVID, for-profit healthcare and widespread institutional social inequities be damned.
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Oct 8 2021 04:56AM     link to this

Finland, Sweden & Denmark have temporarily suspended use of moderna vaccine for those under 30 y.o. because of myocarditis & pericarditis side effects.

Atticus Finch
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Oct 8 2021 05:54AM     link to this

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Oct 8 2021 06:39AM     link to this

330 million people are not getting in a car crash on the daily. The dictorial government IS trying to force gene therapy on the entire US population. Great comparison.

As far as ruining the site. All the T&A is still over in the classified section.
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Oct 8 2021 06:42AM     link to this

"myocarditis & pericarditis side effects."

which are extremely rare and mild in ~95% of cases...

"The incidence of myocarditis, although low, increased after the receipt of the BNT162b2 vaccine, particularly after the second dose among young male recipients. The clinical presentation of myocarditis after vaccination was usually mild."

They are just being extremely cautious.
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Oct 8 2021 06:51AM     link to this

Hmm, L.A. Sheriff comes out and says he WON'T enforce the city council's vaccine mandate.

Atticus Finch
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Oct 8 2021 07:00AM     link to this

The chances these vaccines change your genes (are "gene thereapy") are in essence zero. The mRNA would have to get into the nucleus, a process which is very well regulated. the mRNA would have to have the right signal to get past the nuclear membrane into the nucleus, which the mRNA from the vaccines doesn't have. Then the mRNA strand would have to be translated into DNA by another enzyme (reverse transcriptase) which the mRNA doesn't have. Finally, the mRNA would have to be integrated into the DNA by an integrase enzyme, which the vaccine doesn't have.

mRNA is usually translated into protein in the cytoplasm, outside the nucleus. That's where the spike protein is made. DNA is transcribed into mRNA, almost never the other way around. This is the central dogma of molecular biology. This time the mRNA is already premade, so there is no interaction with your DNA.

"mRNA from vaccines does not enter the nucleus and does not alter DNA." It is therefore not gene therapy. See link.
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Oct 8 2021 07:06AM     link to this

Oh boy! Tsk, tsk anti-vaxxers! The latest on your "miracle drug" ivermectin...

"Dr Kyle Sheldrick, one of the group investigating the studies, said they had not found 'a single clinical trial' claiming to show that ivermectin prevented Covid deaths that did not contain 'either obvious signs of fabrication or errors so critical they invalidate the study.'"

Pixie dust would probably work as well!
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