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Ethel. Your name is now Ethel. You took too long.
No lube for you.
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As usual, many of you who don't agree with what someone like Davis
says can't show that he is wrong, yet you can't support your position either,
so you just go off on an tangent and attack him when you no nothing about
him.
I'm of the opinion that you have the right to decide on what medical
treatment is best for you, not the government.
I'm still waiting for the scientific data that justifies the mandates
when the data I've seen leads me to believe otherwise.
Can anyone of HX show me the data that justifies forced vaccinations
and business shutdowns?
I've already shown data in other blogs that lead me to the
conclusion that shutdowns and forced vaccinations has not
solved the problem but has caused more damage when trying
to save lives at all costs.
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I'm beginning to think you're not really a Dr.
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Plus 1 Boogie, +1...
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I step away and this happens?
Awwww, man.
Missing out on the fun.
Pass the popcorn, someone.
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+1
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That +1 was for AF, you know, the dude that defies common wisdom.
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I agree that you have a right to decide what medical treatment is best for you, but that does not mean you are guaranteed your role, especially in the armed service.
Your job is to defend the nation, get in harm’s way for the sake of others, and possibly hurt, maim or kill someone else as part of your responsibilities, or get hurt in the process.
And you are griping about a needle?
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I gave up trying to have a reasoned discussion with him and his buddy that also posts a bunch of drivel. They just pull some other nonsense out of their ass, point to some random YouTube video, and ignore what you say.
This is why this country is doomed. Facts no longer rule and politics has crept into absolutely everything. Someone I know was indignant because they were sure the HB oil spill was a Democratic Party conspiracy just so no one had fun. I mean where the fuck do you go from there?
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I didn’t just disagree with him, I post links to an actual, factual website. Not the hysterical
Propaganda that so many love to spread on here as “facts.” What I took issue with was his “I work on Camp Pendleton” as if that makes him an authority.
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OP is a closet think that will always have to pay for sex.
The rest..well..you never did an ounce of research on these vaccines so I expect nothing less. The animal trials should have been your first hint. Sorry MudBloods..ya fuked yourselves..but then again, none of you ever had the makings to be a PureBlood.
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* OP is a closet TWINK
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@sherahahn-“I agree that you have a right to decide what medical treatment is best for you, but that does not mean you are guaranteed your role, especially in the armed service.
Your job is to defend the nation, get in harm’s way for the sake of others, and possibly hurt, maim or kill someone else as part of your responsibilities, or get hurt in the process.
And you are griping about a needle?”
Is this a fukin joke..?
First let’s get some history of mRNA/Coronavirus Vaccines & previous animal trials..
-Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0035421
Antibody-Dependent Enhancement of Feline Infectious Peritonitis Virus Infection in Feline Alveolar Macrophages and Human Monocyte Cell Line U937 by Serum of Cats Experimentally or Naturally Infected with Feline Coronavirus
https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article..._1_49/_article
Vaccine efficacy in senescent mice challenged with recombinant SARS-CoV bearing epidemic and zoonotic spike variants
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17194199/
Immunization with SARS coronavirus vaccines leads to pulmonary immunopathology on challenge with the SARS virus
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22536382/
Prior immunization with severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS)-associated coronavirus (SARS-CoV) nucleocapsid protein causes severe pneumonia in mice infected with SARS-CoV
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18941225/
Evaluation of the mRNA-1273 Vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 in Nonhuman Primates
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7449230/
Immunization with Modified Vaccinia Virus Ankara-Based Recombinant Vaccine against Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Is Associated with Enhanced Hepatitis in Ferrets
https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128...rmanently=true
Cliffs:
Once vaccinated, the animals had an inability to fight off or suffered adverse effects once reinfected.
The vaccinated animals did not all die; however, many vaccinated animals became sicker than non-vaccinated when exposed to the SARS virus. Some studies included sacrificing the test animals and tissue study---most of the vaccinated animals in the studies developed inflammation in liver or lung or elsewhere.
Now..
COVID Vaccine Trials In Animals Were Stopped Because They Kept Dying, Revealed In Texas Senate Hearing
It was revealed recently during the Texas Senate Committee hearing that COVID-19 vaccine trials in animals were stopped because they kept dying.
This past week the Texas Senate Committee on State Affairs took testimony from Texas physicians regarding mandatory vaccination and Vaccine Passports in Texas – the Senate Bill SB 1669: Stop Forced Vaccination and Vaccine Passports in Texas.
A shocking revelation was made during the course of the senate hearing that animal testing of COVID-19 vaccines were stopped because they kept dying.
Here is what was revealed during the hearing on May 6
https://nvicadvocacy.org/members/Hom...%26Page%3dTrue
https://tlcsenate.granicus.com/Media...?clip_id=15926
“"Folks, I think that’s important to understand there that what we’re talking about is American people are now the guinea pigs. This is the test program, thats going on.
They didn’t do the human testing and they stopped the animal test because the animals were dying. And then they turned it out for the pubic.
And we’re now looking at businesses that want to mandate that this experimental vaccine be given to people as a condition of their employment. ""
Sen. Hall questioned the doctor: “Has there been another vaccine that had the high incidents of serious hospitalizations and deaths that this vaccine is now showing?
Dr. Farella: “Not to this extent. Not even close.”
Sen. Hall: “Any other vaccine would’ve been pulled from the market?”
Dr. Farella: “Absolutely.”
Sen. Hall: “Have you seen any other vaccine that was put out to the public that skipped the animal test?”
Dr. Farella: “Never before.”
Sen. Hall: “As I have read, they actually started the animal tests, and because the animals were dying, they stopped the tests.”
Dr. Farella: “Correct.”
https://www.bitchute.com/video/sDs3wtkuFnQI/
“A note regarding animal deaths in coronavirus vaccine tests: According to Dr. Lee Merritt, animal tests on coronavirus vaccines using cats and ferrets resulted in what were at first believed to be successful vaccines. However, after the animals were exposed to the wild virus, instead of weakening the virus, the vaccine’s “stylized immuno-response” caused the virus to enter the animal’s body like a Trojan horse. “And then it replicated without checking and killed the cat with overwhelming sepsis and cardiac failure,” Dr. Merritt said. “And that happened in the ferrets. That happened every time they’ve tried this. We have never made it through an animal study successfully for this type of virus.”
Oh..well would you look at that..EXACT SAME RESULTS AS ALL THE STUDIES UP ABOVE.
Sorry MudBloods..suicide watch time
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Davis and I try to justify our point of view with data that is available from
reliable sources, while those of you who disagree just give an opinion
without basis or just launch a personal attack.
Similar to what the mainstream media does.
I keep reading on the internet, all these stories of young people dying of covid,
yet they represent less than 1% of the deaths.
You rarely read about all the old people dying of covid who represent over 90%
of the deaths.
But at least on HX, everyone can express their opinion without serious consequences.
Not like FB or Twitter which will suspend or cancel you if they don't like your
opinion.
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"I'm still waiting for the scientific data that justifies the mandates
when the data I've seen leads me to believe otherwise.
Can anyone of HX show me the data that justifies forced vaccinations
and business shutdowns?"
I've shown you in RA data time and time again that non-pharmaceutical interventions work to limit spread, but time and time again you ignore it, conveniently forget it, and then repeat the same bullshit that you haven't seen any data yet.
In other words, you're full of shit. This is just a talking point with you, not something that carries any weight whatsoever.
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"Similar to what the mainstream media does.
I keep reading on the internet, all these stories of young people dying of covid,
yet they represent less than 1% of the deaths.
You rarely read about all the old people dying of covid who represent over 90%
of the deaths."
Wow. You've continuously made this callous and cruel argument that old people dying off is ok.
I'm glad at least some people making public health decisions disagree with you.
For your information, 122,500 50-64 year old Americans have died of COVID. I wouldn't consider those people old and retired.
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I think the better argument to make is that closures and "lockdowns" are very costly in terms of jobs, in terms of mental health issues, in terms of people not getting screening for cancer and other diseases, in terms of interrupting treatments for diseases like malaria and tuberculosis in third-world nations, causing unnecessary deaths.
But while there is truth to this, there is an argument to be made how much of these are simply caused by the pandemic itself minus the closures and stay-at-home orders? It's hard to separate this out into simple answers.
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I can back up each statement here..
Because of lockdowns
• People Suffering from Other Diseases
◦ 1.4 million additional tuberculosis deaths due to lockdown disruptions
◦ 500,000 additional deaths related to HIV
◦ Malaria deaths could double to 770,000 total per year
◦ 65 percent decrease in all cancer screenings
◦ Breast cancer screenings dropped 89 percent
◦ Colorectal screenings dropped 85 percent
◦ Projected increase in cancer deaths, including up to 16.6 percent increase in colorectal cancer deaths, 9.5 percent increase in breast cancer deaths, and 5.4 percent increase in lung cancer deaths over the next 5 years
◦ 75 percent decrease in suspected cancer referrals in the UK
◦ At least 1/3 of excess deaths in the U.S. are already not related to COVID-19
◦ Widespread disruption of access to health care in the UK, disproportionately for poor individuals
◦ Increase in cardiac arrests but decrease in EMS calls for them
◦ 38% decrease in heart disease-related treatments
◦ 33% drop in heart attack patients, 58% drop in stroke patients
◦ Significant increase in stress-related cardiomyopathy during lockdowns
◦ 15,000 additional non-COVID Alzheimer’s deaths (as of June – likely much higher now)
• Starvation and Food Insecurity
◦ 168k child hunger deaths predicted in Africa
◦ As many as 12,000 additional hunger deaths expected per day globally due to lockdown disruptions, up to 6,000 children
◦ World Food Programme sees an 82% increase in food insecurity
◦ 132 million additional people in sub-Saharan Africa are projected to be undernourished due to lockdown disruptions
◦ More than 50 million people living in America, including 17 million children, are likely to experience food insecurity by the end of the year
◦ UNICEF is having to feed UK children for the first time
◦ 2 million Filipino families are starving because of lockdowns, at levels “never seen before”
◦ UN warns that the famine and lockdown fallout in 2021 will be catastrophic
• Effects on Children
◦ Study estimates up to 2.3 million additional child deaths in the next year from lockdowns
◦ Lockdowns are fueling child labor, including in commercial sex exploitation, mining, and tobacco production
◦ Up to 104% increase in new HIV infections among children
◦ Millions of girls have been deprived of access to food, basic healthcare, and protection and thousands exposed to abuse and exploitation
◦ FGM increases in Africa, setting back previous widespread efforts to end FGM
◦ An estimated 13 million more child marriages
◦ Teen pregnancy up in many countries
◦ Low-income students are suffering in online classes, widening inequality
◦ School closures leading to a disproportionate increased health, social and economic divides between low and high-income families
◦ School closures in the US decreased reported child abuse by 27 percent
◦ Billions of days of lost education worldwide
◦ Decreased access to healthcare
◦ Anxiety and stress from stay-at-home orders
◦ Sharp rise in eating disorders among children
◦ Child abuse reports increased 34% in Ireland between March and December
• Domestic/Sexual Abuse
◦ Domestic violence reports have skyrocketed (another source here)
◦ Up to 70% decrease in reports of child abuse to CPS early in lockdown
◦ Male victim domestic abuse calls increased by 60% in the UK
◦ Domestic abuse becomes more severe during lockdowns
• Economy and Poverty
◦ 150 million people forced into extreme poverty
◦ 8 million Americans pushed into poverty – largest increase in US history
◦ Half of lower-income Americans report household job or wage loss due to lockdowns
◦ A year of lockdowns has destroyed a decade of progress in helping the world’s poor – particularly in children
◦ Shutdowns cause disproportionate number of evictions for Black and Latino tenants
◦ School closures are causing many detrimental second-order economic effects
◦ Lockdowns drive homelessness in NYC to record levels
◦ Over 110,000 US restaurants permanently closed
◦ Unemployment tripled among young Americans, 52% now live with their parents
◦ 2 million UK families have been pushed into poverty
◦ NYC bankruptcies are up 40% compared to a year ago (as of September)
◦ Half of European small and medium businesses say they will face bankruptcy in the next year
◦ New Zealand lockdowns pushed 70k children into poverty
◦ 90% of New Zealanders who lost their jobs were women
◦ Thousands of Aucklanders turn to food banks – there are now 29 registered food banks in Auckland; prior to COVID there were less than 5
◦ Up to 500,000 fewer births in the U.S. will create severe economic hardship for childcare and child-related services and products
• Mental health
◦ 1 in 5 U.S. adults developed mental disorder
◦ 1 in 4 young adults have seriously considered suicide
◦ Severe consequences from isolation of the elderly – increased mortality, worsening cognitive abilities, accelerating dementia, mental health consequences, failure to thrive, etc.
◦ Isolation of children significantly increases their risk of poor adult health – both mentally and physically
◦ Half of young adults showing signs of depression
◦ Half of students say their mental health has declined
◦ Suicidal ideation increased in areas under stay-at-home orders while it remained stable in areas that did not have stay-at-home orders
◦ Cases of depression and prevalence of depression symptoms have tripled in the U.S.
◦ As many as 10 million people, including 1.5 million children, are thought to need new or additional mental health support as a direct result of lockdowns in the UK
◦ 70% increase in referrals of patients with serious suicidal thoughts in Israel
• Suicides
◦ Suicide-related calls to crisis hotline in Canada increased 66 percent
◦ Suicides up in Bay Area
◦ Projected increase in suicides in Canada
◦ Suicides up sharply in Toronto
◦ Canadians in quarantine twice as likely to have suicidal thoughts
◦ Military suicides up 20%
◦ Suicides increasing among children in Dallas metro area
◦ Male suicides at highest level in two decades in England
◦ Suicides rising in Japan for the first time in over a decade
• Substance Abuse
◦ Overdoses and overdose deaths are at their highest point ever for a 12-month period in the U.S.
◦ Canada seeing record number of opioid deaths (Alberta, British Columbia, Winnipeg, Saskatchewan)
◦ More people are needing drugs to cope with anxiety and depression
◦ Fentanyl overdoses increased 60% in Georgia since lockdown
◦ Every week of lockdowns increases binge drinking by 19%
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@NR, you don't seem to get my point. I'm pointing out that yes people
are dying of covid but look at the cost of trying to save lives.
The cure is worse than the disease.
And Davis has just pointed out the result when you try to save
lives at all costs.
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You can't definitively prove that all of those problems are due to stay at home orders or a direct consequence of the health disaster of the pandemic.
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Is the cure really worse than the disease? The health impacts of lockdowns during COVID-19
"Restrictive non-pharmaceutical interventions against COVID-19 (known as ‘lockdowns’) are associated with health harms
However, it is challenging to determine whether lockdowns have caused the harms or whether these harms are a direct consequence of the underlying health disaster of the pandemic
Careful analysis of excess mortality suggests that lockdowns are not associated with large numbers of deaths in places that avoided large COVID-19 epidemics (eg, Australia, New Zealand)
This evidence must be weighed against the very severe harms caused by COVID-19 itself, as seen for example in Brazil and India
It is unlikely that government interventions have been worse than the pandemic itself in most situations using data collected to date"
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Really, I don't expect to change anyone s mind. You will just have to have it hit home.
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@Nite Rider..but I can prove it. Any stat you’d like me to address I can link to...
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*Night
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