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Obviously, for politically correct reasons; and in an effort to avoid the woke mob of environmentalist jackboots, the corporations didn’t publicly share any of the issues they could foresee coming – they just worked independently and quietly to avoid the issue.
However, it costs more money to move and entire supply chain for trillions of tons of goods coming. Hence, we saw prices climbing as a result of increased transportation costs being factored in to the new logistics. Did you hear about massive increases in container shipment prices? Well, THAT’S WHY. The entire supply chain from Asia to the United States was being modified from the closest port (California) to the ports where internal transportation would not be an issue.
Ships from China and SE Asia being diverted from California into the Gulf of Mexico or East coast have to go through the Panama Canal. It takes twice as long and costs twice as much, if not more. Hence, massive shipping price increases:
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The bottleneck at the Ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach run by Gene Seroka and Mario Cordero is not caused by a lack of longshoremen and dock workers to off-load the vessels. The bottleneck is caused by half of the previous trucks used to enter the ports and pick up containers not being allowed. Factually, it doesn’t make a tinkers damn worth of difference if the port works 24/7/365. The ports are simply running out of space.
The ports are running out of places to store containers full of goods that are getting off-loaded. Hundreds of thousands of them are piling up. The central issue is the inability of emission compliant heavy transportation in California to move those containers full of goods to manufacturing, warehouses and distribution points.
This California bottleneck has been building, and building and building for years, until now it has reached a crisis point.
If you want to know how long this has been taking place, take the time to watch this video of a trans-continental shipment belonging to Amazon Inc from China. As you watch this really good discussion, think about how long Amazon Inc. has known about the problem in order for them to have put such a massive solution into place in order to avoid California.
Yeah, this California emissions issue has been identified for years, and Amazon has been planning to avoid it for years. WATCH:
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JOE BIDEN AND HIS FUCKING IDIOTS!
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OP
California changed out their trucks to clean trucks a long time ago, yes it was an upheaval at the time but business adapted.
the current container situation is not about California - it is a global supply chain crisis.
every US port is right not congested and have ships at anchor.
like some people thought corona was planned to mess with the US election, only they didnt think that corona was in every country on earth - and those countries had nothing to do with our elections.
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^^^^^^^^^^
I thought so as well.
How is it SUPPLY CHAIN PROBLEM.....when all the goods are sitting outside of our ports?
Think about it....NOT a Supply Chain Problem....its a get the material off of the boat problem.
And what caused that.......
Well.....California's GREEN NEW DEAL.
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There was a backlog when Trump was around. This is not new. Get a life.
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If it was a supply chain problem, there wouldn't be dozens of ships waiting to be off loaded.
There wouldn't be Wally World & Home Despot (and others) chartering ships...... if ships are available to charter, how is it a supply chain issue? (no ships would be able to be booked).
At the end of the day, this is going to hit the little guy the hardest with less disposable income.
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Wow. All that research and you happen to converge on an answer that for some reason sounds very politically motivated.
I smell a rat.
Or is it I see a rat scribbling shit here in RA?
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I'm surprised you didn't blame government interventions concerning Covid. Believe it or not, I've heard ideologues claim that one too as a cause!
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@NR
It was a decision based on what Calif WANTED....
Did you not read the article....
I mean in a Dem committed murder...confessed and there was video you still would be saying....NOPE NOTHING TO SEE HERE....
And this is NOT Trumps problem....Calif created it....started it....and now we are ALL living with it.
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For ONCE....take off your partisan glasses.
If this were a Rep state and the same thing happened.....
I would still be mad as hell.
And you know what....you would be too.
Thats the difference btw us.....
But b/c this is Dem state.....everything is just fine.
Wait for my next post....even CNN can not cover up the Dems messes anymore.
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I'd love to blame it on the lib california democrats however its not California's which is to blame.
California ports have had record TEU numbers this year.
Really the cause of this is a covid disruption.
covid happened early 2020 - globally people were asked to stay at home, some companies laid off staff or stopped operating (airlines and to some extent shipping lines and factories in general - they are not flying empty planes and running empty container ships). Everything came to a slow...
when the "vaxx" came around late 2020- everyone hit the GO GO GO button as they realize commerce will go back faster than anticipated.
well those companies in supply chain take longer to get back on track and at the same time they were bombarded with freight - so much that freight rates per container has risen between 500% and 1000% for the past 12 months.
Absolutely nothing to do with California's green deal.
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"The bottleneck at the Ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach run by Gene Seroka and Mario Cordero is not caused by a lack of longshoremen and dock workers to off-load the vessels. The bottleneck is caused by half of the previous trucks used to enter the ports and pick up containers not being allowed."
You are SO wrong. Don't blame the truckers. The Clean Truck requirements you mentioned have been in effect since 2010 and CARB contributed up to 50,000 dollars per truck so the port truckers could buy new trucks.
California has since banned out of state trucks if the do not have the "Certified Clean Truck" decal displayed on their cab. That requirement has been in place since 2012-2014 when "dirty" trucks were phased out in California.
That was 11 years ago. Get yer facts straight.
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I own a few trucks dedicated to the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach. The truck driver shortage is not one of the problems causing congestion at those ports.
The so-called trucker shortage at the ports has not existed for years. Port truckers have not left the labor force or gotten any unemployment. It's a farse.
One of the problems is the Longshoremen are short-staffed on nearly every shift. We send our trucks at appointed times that the port terminal gave us with a 1-2 hour arrival window. I’ve had trucks arrive at 18:00 for their appointment, then they’re turned away when the port closes because there was only one crane working the yard with 60 trucks waiting and two cranes sitting idle.
We’ve seen our containers discharged from the vessel, then wait weeks before the chassis pools have a chassis available to put the container on so we can pick it up. Meanwhile, we have to pay out of pocket for demurrage while our loaded containers sit stacked in the port terminal’s yard.
Demurrage charges often amounts to thousands of dollars per container.
Five or six years ago, we bought our own chassis, so we didn’t have to rely on the ports’ chassis pools. However, now the problem is our chassis are all tied up with empty containers on top of them that the terminals refuse to accept due to their own inventory of empty containers clogging up their yard space.
We rented a forklift that can take the empty containers off the chassis and have resorted to stacking the empties in various rented yard locations around the IE and South Bay so we can pick up more loaded containers on those chassis that we need to unload and ship to our customers.
Don't blame the truckers for this. The blame clearly lies on the Longshoremen not having enough trained and qualified staff to deal with this situation.
I suggest you apply on-line for one of those crane operator or dock worker jobs at either port. Report back if your application was accepted.
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I hear those longshoremen & crane operators make 150-200k a year..all union work though..correct?
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I’ve not slept one hour all year. Unless you are growing your own cotton, and looming your own threads- guess what Mother Fucker, this affects you too. Exactly what I mass emailed my company today.
Supply Chain Management- I used to be Santa, now Im the bearer of bad news for our company, nationally. All day, everyday . We went from 14 day production to 80 days.
Unload the vessels, so they don’t miss another voyage.. please oh please, I promise to let every trucker over, and flash my headlights. I’d do anything to help the ports, if I could.
Constant distressed supplier..
I can only imagine what it’s like on the frontline..
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Me
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have a couple of trucker friends and relatives
said in general, moving containers can be a good-paying gig...problem they had when they got to the port for their pickup...sometimes would be left waiting there for hours...they said they didn't get paid while they wait
seems like that could be fixable if is truly a problem...start paying some sort of waiting fee...if the trucks are a problem component of the issues
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For once, this is a blog where everyone is a little right.
The OP comment was spot on, although the news story actually received a lot of publicity in California at the time and was also tied to pay from drivers, modernization needs and discussion of opening LA and LB 24/7.
Little was settled; workers got a bump and hours were expanded and jiggered to make best use of both ports at the same time. But the refusal to use older trucks never came close to resolution.
The stacking of ships and cargo is a seasonal issue every year depending on demands, and the China-Trump feud led to slowdowns. Covid has had an impact for all the obvious reasons - layoffs of people in distribution, medical issues for workers, closing of warehouses where goods would normally be sent, and the mad scramble to get goods moving once the Covid surge slowed down.
People at the LB Port has been working with companies who have acquired land nearby where goods can be stored, and by 2022 the ports should be working 24/7/365. But the other problems still exist. One shipping consortium plans to file for an injunction to the green deal that would put the older trucks back into service for a limited time.
Good thread. I nominate Sonya as President of the Good Blog movement at HX. And watersport her second.
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@Fish
If for example 100% of the trucks have been converted to "clean" or meeting Calif environmental laws....and the problem are people to get the material off of the boats......
Then why have not the ports hired more bodies?
They pay extremely well....is it the Unions? Why?
The author of the article seems to indicate otherwise.
Not saying you are wrong....just want to understand your perspective/experience better.
Its hard to think that this is a logistic problem at the port. I mean its not like this is the first year...month....week....or day that the port has been opened. I guess anything is possible....
PS I would love to be under Sonya ANYTIME....lol....
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Wow, a lot to read...but what I know as first hand fact I won't confuse with "news" fake, imagined, or real. As much as I love capitalism we are always looking for faster, better, cheaper. Which often comes at the cost of exploiting labor around the globe. China got too expensive...and while compelled to take a swipe at DJT for having ALL of his shit made there, I digress. China got too expensive so production of some items moved to Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia, etc. We have containers, China has containers...when the pandemic hit, everyone went home, with their containers. Now that things are reopened, no one wants to send ships of empty containers to third world countries to pick up the shit they made, until they can work it into rotation, since they aren't large consumers you aren't sending full ships to empty and fill with their goods to restart the engine. So by the time you get everything back in place there are backlogs everywhere, not just LA...and if you think the UK fuel shortages and rationing of paper product purchases in Germany is due to CA clean air regulations on trucks, I can't help you.
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With global supply chain issues bottlenecks can be in multiple points, however, the crane operators are get much of the blame for working slowly on purpose, sometimes 3 to four hours to unload 1 shipping container. Their Union�s (ILWU) power is rock solid non one dares to f*ck with them. If a truck driver complains, the driver gets banned from the port, crane operators� managers are scared because crane operators have the power to get the managers fired. Many of these truckers are independent contractors, so they have no power.
�The crane operators take their time, like three to four hours to get just one container. You can�t say anything to them, or they will just go [help] someone else.�
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Pretty good article regarding the mess at our Ports.
Since the ports are Union, are non-union trucks able to load/unload the ports?
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Wait till your gardener can't use or buy a gas powered mower... All electric landscaping tools are junk!
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@ Angler- Yes, truckers need 2 credentials: 1) a clean truck registration (have to pay the port $250 for the privilege) and 2) a TWIC card, which is a security clearance related requirement.
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The Port of Lazaro Cardenas should be a huge benefactor in the woke California stupidity.
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@CandyMan-Is a Class B or Class A license required? Friend is looking for a new line of work, has Class B..he was thinking of trucking or working the docks.
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"For ONCE....take off your partisan glasses.
If this were a Rep state and the same thing happened.....
I would still be mad as hell."
The first part is projection, and the second part is a lie.
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@Davis Sorry, I don't have very clear knowledge about that, but I can't recall an instance where the owner operators I've dealt with were not Class A.
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a TWIC card is for security. Yes
So non-union/independent truckers are able to load and unload at the ports, is this question.
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"So non-union/independent truckers are able to load and unload at the ports, is this question."
Yes, they can and have since probably the 90's when Clinton signed the free trade agreement.
FYI, my company is not unionized but we maintain a prevailing wage scale that allows our drivers to enjoy a comfortable lifestyle, including paying our drivers for waiting time.
Owner operators, on the other hand, are the ones who are screwed by this current situation. Unlike other small companies, the ones we have contracted bill us for their waiting time and for what we call "dry runs" where they were not able to pick up a container for us.
There IS a trucker shortage, and I'll address that next. However, the port truckers operating in the ports of LA and LB have a niche and despite the Clean Truck program -imposed by CARB and Governor Arnold, with Gov Brown's continued enforcement- continue to operate at a profit despite the current challenges.
There are some bad actors - some big trucking companies that take advantage of the owner operators. I won't name names but ya'll probably know who the are. The big company starts with X and ends with Logistics. Maybe a VP from X on this site who'll tell me to STFU about their corrupt practices
Anyway, this has nothing to do with Trump's China policy. This has more to due with the lack of US exports contributing to a surge in consumer goods from Asia that the LA and LB ports are unable to deal with.
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The original post implied that the port congestion issue was caused by a shortage of port truckers.
My reply focused on that issue. Now lets talk about a completely different issue – the shortage of short and long-haul truckers that take the cargo from inland warehouses to retail distribution warehouses. The American Trucking Association addressed that shortage, but that is a separate issue from the port congestion challenges that my company faces.
Yes, there is a shortage of short and long- haul truckers, who provide a completely different role in the supply chain. Many trucking companies that are not Amazon Prime are challenged to put butts in the big rig seats. There are many reasons for this:
1. Driving an 18-wheeler loaded with 48,000 lbs of cargo is a very difficult job and there are not many people over the age of 24 (our insurance requirements) who can do that job.
2. Our liability insurance carrier will not allow us to hire anyone under the age of 24 unless we post a very large insurance bond for him or her.
3. California workers compensation insurance prices are totally fucking insane, limiting how many drivers we can carry on our payroll. My company pays $40 out of every $100 our drivers earn to workers comp insurance, with no WC claims since we started this trucking operation 14 years ago.
4. The trucking industry is burdened with many safety requirements that prohibit us from hiring otherwise qualified drivers who might have a little sumpin sumpin in their background that might pose a liability risk or get them rejected when they reply for a TWIC card.
To be clear, I am not referring to port truckers in this reply. I am referring to the truckers who take the goods from an inland warehouse once the goods are picked up from the port and delivered to an inland warehouse before the goods are trucked over the road to a retail distribution center.
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For those who wanna read up. I’m self taught in this industry, just happen to be empowered by my current employer to hold the position I do. Im not into politics, however this site has helped me understand the issues I was/have been facing. Kinda one of those “oh shit this is affecting me” moments. Thank you for this blog- I prefer learning from people in the industry- for this, I’am so appreciative.
Hope this site helps- be kind, I’m not researching sources of articles, just making it to the next day with this crisis.
https://gcaptain.com/category/ports/
💋
Me
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Thank you Sonya
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TITS!
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But this can't be true! It can't be Biden's fault, or Newsom's fault, or Democrats fault, or Big Labor's fault. It can't be, because they are liberals!
And we ALL know that liberals are totally filled up with love and compassion. And good intentions, and knowledge, and intuition, and honesty and integrity and everything else...and did I say good intentions??? Especially good intentions.
Liberals love everyone. Almost. They love black people. Brown people. Gay people. Young people. The list of prospective special interest groups that they bribe into voting for them is staggering!
But now? Christmas was fucked last year because of COVID. This year? Fucked, because all our gifts are sitting in container ships offshore waiting for a FUCKING ELECTRIC SEMI TRUCK to be invented to haul the goods to market!
Liberals. The ones with good intentions...but what do they say about good intentions???
THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS.
Most of us don't deserve a trip to hell courtesy of the liberals. I'll skip that act, thank you very much.
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Yep
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Damn, it must suck to live in America where the supplies and imports are bottled up and other countries are not suffering their own crisis of logistics and imports.
Oh wait, yes other counties are experiencing the same thing, and for some it’s become a political issue.
Let’s hand water boy a fresh serving of “shut the fuck up you idiot/you proved yourself a fool” and let’s see what the next stupid thing he says.
P.s. I import goods into the US, Canada , Guam and southern Mexico, so I do know why the fuck I am talking about, unlike you “armchair quarterbacks” with no experience in the field.
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^^^^^^^^^^^
“We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies and competitive values."
"For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
–John F. Kennedy
Will NEVER be silenced.....
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That’s ok.
Keep proving yourself to be a fool and the worth of your words drops with
Every
Single
Instance
You prove yourself to be misinformed and wrong.
Your tantrums and Tourrrete’s highlights just how far you and yours are down the shithole.
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If its about lack of workers then Explain " LBCT "
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case closed with all the answers...we MUST move on to something else we can complain about
what else can there be?
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wpo link
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WS suck on this.
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And this
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, is that all semi tractors have to be current with new California emissions standards. As a consequence, that mean trucks cannot be older than 3 years if they are to pick up or deliver containers at those ports. This issue wipes out approximately half of the fleet trucks used to move containers in/out of the port. Operating the port 24/7 will not cure the issue, because all it does is pile up more containers that sit idle as they await a limited number of trucks to pick them up. THIS is the central issue.
