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He's guilty of not checking the gun and of hiring a lousy crew.
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Not necessarily guilty, but he probably should have taken a look at the gun himself before using it.
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had a great career...too much hate now and probably needs to be put down...maybe he can go find that stuff from china and take care of it himself without a gun...keep those stats down
this will not be too helpful
'Rust' Actor Says Camera Was Protected But Not the Actors ... Afraid to Voice Concerns
---other actors getting the guns would check them a few times, even after getting the OK from the armorer
BUT not ALEC ??
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Alec Baldwin picked up a gun, pointed it at someone and deliberately pulled the trigger resulting in the death of an innocent woman. His actions were negligent and he is guilty of manslaughter, a felony offense.
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I know a lot about the movie industry and know people in the industry. the person who should be held accountable are the armorer and the person who hired her. she was completely unqualified and very irresponsible with her guns, so much, she had a history of it. ask nick cage. production is the one who brought, so they also need to be held accountable. as bad as it sounds, hannah's death should bring to light how the movie industry is very shady and will cut safety corners. this on top of the new demands that streaming channels are doing to movie crews, but that is a different topic.
speaking of topics, interesting how fish (and his kind) made this political. if you didnt catch it, not to worry, i did.
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Baldwin is also the producer of the film.
His responsibility.
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He was apparently told it was not loaded with any real type bullets just before he fired it. Why would the gun hit the poor woman if he was supposed to be firing at the camera. Did it go off before it reached that position?
Involuntary manslaughter at best; maybe just a civil suit with a large damage amount.
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the dude is a VILE human being...one of those people where the rules don't apply and in this case, he couldn't be bothered with 60seconds?
loved his career though....feel bad for his family...though she has some of her own issues
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As an actor, no, not guilty. Actors don’t check prop weapons. They’re not qualified.
As producer, he’s ultimately responsible for the crew he hires and if they take shortcuts that compromise safety.
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fish, why is he (baldwin) a vile person? you know him personally?? please answer......
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that's funny...let me google it like you did
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Being a douche bag!
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just as if you accidentally run someone over with your car - you still on the hook.
probably manslaughter
and then there will be the civil settlement.
imagine if we live in a world where no one is accountable for their accidents
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My opinion
If an actor wants to do a good job playing the part he should familiarize himself with the props he or she is using.
A revolver is one of the easiest firearms to inspect to assure it is empty. With an hour or less of practice this can inspection can be done in less than 10 seconds.
A cold gun references the fact that there are no cartridges including blanks in the cylinders.
Part of gun handling is to treat all firearms as if they are loaded.
In my opinion I would always inspect first since I'm taking the chance of removing someone's life. I don't care who inspected it prior.
Killing someone accidentally is manslaughter.
Baldwin gets to sleep with that for not being safe.
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"had a great career...too much hate now and probably needs to be put down...maybe he can go find that stuff from china and take care of it himself without a gun...keep those stats down
this will not be too helpful
'Rust' Actor Says Camera Was Protected But Not the Actors ... Afraid to Voice Concerns
---other actors getting the guns would check them a few times, even after getting the OK from the armorer
BUT not ALEC ??"
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What are actors checking for? Make sure bullets are blanks? Live ammo was not in gun apparently.
From what I hear that even blanks can cause projectiles shoot out of gun. I am not too clear what can be stuck in a barrel that can cause such an incident.
Point is that actors are not qualified to perform safety checks. This is the reason the accident happen in first place. The prop gun coordinator on set was not qualified.
Alec is a producer so he is going to be liable to some degree for what happen. But the man just killed someone in freak accident. He may be going through a hard time as well.
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Baldwin was told it was a “cold gun”.
He is out of the direct legal threat of the death, but May be on the hook for helping hire the behinds the scenes crew.
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Anyone who picks up a gun has the responsibility to make sure it is not loaded. After making sure it is not loaded, you never, ever point it at someone unless to plan to actually shoot them.
As usual, guns are not dangerous. It is the fools behind them.
He is so very guilty of stupidity.
The other question that should be asked is this. He is a virulent anti gun guy. What is he doing making a movie with guns?
How can anyone feel sorry for this stupid arrogant asshole?
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The person holding the gun is responsible for the gun. If he didn't have the know how to make sure the gun was safe, he shouldn't have even been touching it. Should have gotten training first.
And I thought they usually use fake guns. Even a blank gun with a solid barrel that can't fire a projectile can kill someone.
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It's a terrible unfortunate tragedy
He is also guilty of stupidity I agree.
But it would be even more profoundly stupid if he somehow ends up testifying in a Congressional hearing about gun safety or something related to gun laws.
As if he is an expert on anything related... not even close.
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I don't know the law or all the details so...maybe? Probably?
I think all actors handling firearms need a course on firearm safety and if operating a real firearm know how to personally clear it as safe.
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It's hard to believe something like that can still happen in this day in age. New business idea, make new style of prop gun that cannot take real rounds and sell to movie makers. Even still, can't they use audio / visual effects that create the illusion of a gun being fired?
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Every person handling that gun had a responsibility to follow the rules of gun safety. (See below.) These rules are commonly followed on movie and television sets. There are additional rules in these settings.
The armorer is responsible for chain of custody for every weapon. Weapons should be secured in a safe whenever they are not being used. Nobody touches the guns before a scene but the Armorer. No live ammo should be anywhere near the set. The Armorer hands the AD a safe weapon.
The Assistant Director is responsible for checking the Armorer's work right before the gun is used in a scene. The AD calls out the status of the weapon before the scene.
The Production company, the AD and the Armorer should have held safety meetings to discuss gun safety. Everyone should have understood these rules and the Armorer and the AD should have been watching everybody like a hawk to ensure adherence.
As the rehearsal began, Baldwin the human being had a personal responsibility to follow the safe handling rules. He killed someone because he either didn't know these rules, or he did know them and didn't follow them. He'll probably skate because he was trusting the AD to do his job when the AD called out Cold Gun.
Alec Baldwin the Producer is fucked financially for having hired a criminally negligent and incompetent AD and Armorer. (Did he vet these people at all?)
The AD and Armorer should go to jail for criminally negligent homicide for absolutely fucking up their respective jobs. The Armorer handed the AD an unsafe weapon and the AD didn't check it.
By the way, the gun involved is a single action revolver. It was a real gun, not a fake. It had to have the hammer pulled back deliberately and the trigger pulled deliberately for it to fire. It could not fire if Baldwin was just practicing drawing the gun out of a holster. Unless it was holstered cocked. A seriously dangerous condition which means he could have killed himself or anybody around him. This would have been an unbelievable, mind boggling fuck up by either Baldwin, the Armorer or the AD. Really profoundly stupid and homicidal.
Remember, there are no *accidental* discharges - only negligent ones.
The rules:
Always treat the gun as if it's loaded.
Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.
Always keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
Always keep the gun unloaded until you are ready to use it.
Never point the gun at anything you don't intend to destroy or kill.
Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
Learn the mechanical and handling characteristics of the gun you are using.
Always use proper ammunition. Be sure of what you are loading into to gun.
Be sure the barrel is clear of obstructions before loading and shooting.
If your gun fails to fire when the trigger is pulled, hold your shooting position for several seconds; then with the muzzle pointed in a safe direction, carefully unload the gun.
Don't rely on the gun's safety to keep it from firing.
Be aware of your surroundings when handling guns so you don't trip or lose your balance and accidentally point and/or fire the gun at anyone or anything.
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People...he is working in a movie. This is an atypical situation that does not apply to every day life.
He deliberately pointing and shooting a gun at people for scenes with no intention to kill. By same logic any actor that ever done this has violated laws. Its absurd to think this way.
Alec Baldwin and his production company will be sued to hell for this. You can be happy for that.
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^ There are guidelines as to how to handle firearms on set and they are applicable. He could be found criminally negligent.... he has handled weapons on set before many times in fact. And before you say we'll he is just an actor ... NO he is the Executive Producer... responsible for just about everything that happened there.
I don't like him but sympathize with his situation. He was/is criminally negligent in regards to the safety of his crew... what penalty that entails I dunno... don't want to see him in Prison though I doubt he'd have the same leniency with anyone else in the same position.
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"I think all actors handling firearms need a course on firearm safety and if operating a real firearm know how to personally clear it as safe."
I agree with this. And maybe the course needs to be repeated from time to time as well.
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@ thedon60
From what I understand, this is how the cinematographer and the director wound up in the line of fire: simply put, they were ‘setting up the shot’ and rehearsing the scene. In speaking to a good friend who is a long time actor and who has done a number of action movies that use firearms, for the accident to happen as it did, the scene would have to have had Baldwin drawing the gun and pointing it directly at the camera for a ‘looking down the barrel’ dramatic shot. That would also explain why both the cinematographer and the director were not only there (as they would both want to see how it looked on camera), and it also explains why they were close enough to each other to get hit by the same bullet. In other words, there was nothing particularly unusual about circumstances of the set-up of the shot or what they were trying to film … it was just normal (‘action sequence’) filmmaking. Of course, what ultimately happened was anything but normal …
And I have to agree with all those who have pointed out that ANYONE who is handed a firearm, should ALWAYS check the loaded status of the firearm for themselves … no matter who they are or what role or position they hold. If any of the (at least) three people that handled that gun would have done that … this never would have happened.
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Two other things - the fact that the asst. director (erroneously) informed Baldwin that it was a ‘cold gun’ would further imply that this was a rehearsal. Also, given that this was a western, the gun used was almost certainly a SA revolver of some kind, by far one of the easiest firearms to check it’s loaded status.
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about 20 seconds to look at both the back and front of the cylinder
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Too bad it wasn't pointing at his own head, the dumb fuck.
No excuses, always check a firearm
Go to jail
Do not pass go
And, take some HIV cock in your ass Alex
POS
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Perhaps some Attorney is in his Wallet. 
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He's guilty of being an asshole for the last 30 years!
He once hold his "offspring" on a voicemail a "thoughtless little pig."
Always running his mouth, to the point of death threats against him and his family. That's the reason Kim Basinger divorced his ass!
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The whole production crew is likely to face a grand jury and be indicted for various issues, especially now with a torrent of other problems and issues with the work set beyond the bullet issue. They found 500 lead bullets on set and people on the production said the prep work for a safe set was not in place at the entire area where the shooting took place, and that some labor rules were broken in the producers' desire to finish this set after other delays.
Baldwin won't be visiting SNL anytime soon, and this can be considered his last movie.
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He's going to be lucky if he can even get a gig on SNL as Pete Schweddy promoting his balls.
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Lol
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Alec Baldwin to be charged with manslaughter in fatal shooting on the set of 'Rust,' DA says.
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Guilty of being reckless and not following basic safety rules on the set.
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now Baldwin is being indicted by a grand jury.
SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — A grand jury indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on an involuntary manslaughter charge in a 2021 fatal shooting during a rehearsal on a movie set in New Mexico, reviving a dormant case against the A-list actor.
Special prosecutors dismissed an involuntary manslaughter charge against Baldwin in April, saying they were informed the gun might have been modified before the shooting and malfunctioned. They later pivoted and began weighing whether to refile a charge against Baldwin after receiving a new analysis of the gun.
Baldwin has said he pulled back the hammer, but not the trigger, and the gun fired.
the new analysis found the round could only be fired if the trigger was pulled
(as i understand it)
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When the gun is in your hands, you can't blame anyone else. There is no excuse.
Someone else's job? - There should be a hired expert, but they're not pulling the trigger.
There is no excuse.
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Guilty of being a complete dumbass. There's no excuse for not knowing/treating any gun as if it is loaded. Regardless if it's a prop gun or not. Responsibility also falls on the prop master for not instructing the actor on the proper handling of the gun. He should have been shown how to handle and check the gun for live ammo and/or blanks. Both are responsible, guilty!
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He is an actor, they had an armorer, and it was not his responsibility to check to see if a prop gun had actual bullets in it.
Unless he is put the bullets in the gun, he bears no responsibility, even though he is a useless piece of shit
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If it can fire live rounds then it is not a "prop" gun - it is a real one!
And I believe I read somewhere that it was suggested that he take a gun safety class prior to that incident and refused because he "knows how to handle a gun!"
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Any gun owner knows he or she has full responsibility for that firearm when it is in your possession. When someone hands it to you, it is now YOUR responsibility. Is it loaded, safety on or off. Never point at anything you don't want to shoot. Hold it downward so any accidental discharge will not fire upward or outward where it could strike someone or something.
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He is absolutely guilty!!!!!!
Guns should never be pointed at anything you are not willing to destroy. EVER Period!!!!
Alec should get 2nd degree and the armorer should get manslaughter along with the production management who hire that incompetent armorer.
i'll ask you this, If that gun went off and Alec shot himself in the foot do you think he would let the armorer get away without being criminally charged? and Civilly sued?
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Saying he didn't put bullets in it so he's not responsible is kind of like me borrowing someone's car and since I didn't put gas in it but I drive over someone and kill them, I'm not responsible because I didn't put gas in it? Negligence does not remove responsibility
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The armorer or armourer was not on the set.
Cut to the chase. If a director told Baldwin to put a gun that was called a cold gun to his head and pull the trigger.
Would he take someone's word? If he would take the director's or the armorer's word. Then don't try him.
Would he himself check to see if it was loaded? Once he checked, shoot him in the genitals five times.
If he dies he dies if he lives he lives. Case closed.
Kiss
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I'm sure many that think he's not responsible are the same people that want to ban guns.
Like politics we all want to speak intelligently about it, yet most of us have never held office. So until you've held a gun in your hand or know how to use one properly. Maybe it's best not to say anything at all.
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Felony Manslaughter
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Never assume someone has done what they were supposed to do. Ultimately it was his duty to check the ammo on the gun. Gun safety is in play just for that reason. Always assume a gun is loaded. Guilty
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Mr.Britt is spot on
Everyone here that have never owned a gun should Google lt col Jeff Cooper
Baldwin held the gun, its his responsibility
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Hopefully Halyna Hutchins gets some justice and Baldwin gets put away.
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