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Locked. No further comments permitted.The CDC Finally Reveals
Nov 13 2021 04:20PM more by Angler1
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The CDC Finally Reveals Its Estimate for How Many Americans Have Natural Immunity:
146.6 Million People.

Why is this just finally coming out?




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Nov 13 2021 05:00PM     link to this

Because they’re all invested in Pfizer, Modern, J&J, AstraZeneca, Novavax, and all the other vaccine companies. These mandates are about power and money. They have nothing to do with keeping people safe. Not one of these Joe Biden dick riding fags that jumps in the comments like Gloomer ia going to convince me that the establishment that has no problem murdering millions of Iraqis and willfully abandoning thousands in Afghanistan cares about saving lives.
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Nov 13 2021 05:38PM     link to this

Than, god for becker news. Stupid
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Nov 13 2021 05:56PM     link to this

Another bullshit thread.

We've known FOR OVER A YEAR, from both the CDC, and from covid19-projections.com that US infections were most likely ~3 times US cases.

Current US cases (Google) = 47 million
Current estimated US infections ~ 3 x current US cases = 141 million.

Problem is level of immunity of the 141 million people is most likely highly variable.

But go ahead, complain, complain, complain you right wingers...
DavisM1
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Nov 13 2021 06:03PM     link to this

It’s much higher than that, everyone that I have known has gotten over Covid naturally. The ones that took the jab (it’s not a vaccine by definition) also came down with Covid, & were sick longer than those that did not get jabbed. Three were forced to go to the hospital, one died, but he had pre-existing conditions.
Angler1
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Nov 13 2021 07:21PM     link to this

Nr doesn't like the CDCs numbers now...
InsearchofStarfish
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Nov 13 2021 09:56PM     link to this

i read 12 percent of the article posted

think NR is missing the boat on this...out of pure LEFT/RIGHT politics and nothing else

everybody can do math...maybe post some CDC articles from a year ago when talking about it


the key here is the ACKNOWLEDGEMENT of it...article says they hadn't provided an update for a number of months...why would that be?

the last 5months seem to coincide nicely with the biden mandates for the vaccine...one of the big issues with the mandate is they are not giving any credit for natural immunity...this article refutes what you just said...so not sure you read it


saw a GI give an interview...she says the military was like zero for 200 in special cases...so basically get the jab or be out of the service...NO MATTER WHAT







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Nov 13 2021 10:32PM     link to this

The timing is amazing isn't it. smh...
InsearchofStarfish
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Nov 13 2021 10:41PM     link to this

My Johns Hopkins research team is leading a long-term study of natural immunity


doesn't sound like bullshit...sounds rather impressive...even a decent school








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Nov 13 2021 11:01PM     link to this

Lol @ becker news.
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Nov 13 2021 11:07PM     link to this

What the CDC really said (Oct 2, 2021) is that there have been an estimated 146.6 million people infected with the SARS-COV2 virus and 921,000 have died in the US.

Your article supposes that all the people who have been infected now have natural immunity. (The writer didn't bother to subtract the dead from the total.) The CDC never wrote anything about whether natural immunity is better or not. Your writer just assumed it.

Here's something interesting and easy to read (and it's ok to be skeptical, these are preliminary findings):

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InsearchofStarfish
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Nov 13 2021 11:58PM     link to this

seems pretty basic to get the math straight in an article, but if you read a little further into it, he didn't believe the ~900k number and left it out totally








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Nov 14 2021 12:21AM     link to this

Yeah I put that brain “study” up there with the “studies” in the beginning of the pandemic that said covid was airborne AIDS.
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Nov 14 2021 02:14AM     link to this

Exactly. The writer cherry-picks the figures that support his position. That's fine since it's an opinion piece (but disingenuously presented as news).

There was a study in a reputable journal that stated that SARS-CoV-2 is airborne AIDS? (I'm sure you meant HIV). I'd like to read this. Can you give me a link to it? JK. I already checked and there isn't one; however, there are several that compare the two viruses and discuss how they are similar and how they differ.

Be safe everyone, have fun, and keep and open mind (but don't let your brain fall out).
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Nov 14 2021 03:56AM     link to this

NR is a tool.....only believes what HE wants to believe and zero interest in the truth....


Now the article.....

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has quietly acknowledged that far more people have natural immunity than was earlier reported. The CDC quietly acknowledged that a staggering 146.6 million people have been infected by the Sars-CoV-2 virus and have survived it.

Most inflated of all are the 921,000 “estimated total deaths.” The CDC reports “Covid-related deaths,” and not deaths caused by Covid-19. That is because 94% of Covid-related deaths had serious underlying medical conditions, such as heart disease, stroke, and diabetes.

While Covid-19 may have been a contributing causal factor to the timing of a patient’s death, the vast majority occurred in patients who were immuno compromised or elderly.

The average age of Covid-related death in 2020 was slightly under life expectancy at 77 years old.

Average age of death in US is 78.

Why doesn’t the CDC acknowledge the widespread natural immunity that is demonstrated by its own data?

One has to conclude that the CDC isn’t just ignoring the inconvenient truth, it is supporting a federal vaccine mandate that ignores Americans’ constitutional rights.



This has been a joke from day 1. Starting with Fauci....and people are still wearing masks if that will help.

Its the FLU......and will never go away. Variants will keep coming b/c the virus has an animal host.

And.....the best thing we can do....NATURAL IMMUNITY of adults.

The FASTER we get it...the FASTER it goes away.


People should be going to jail over this.


Its coming out now......they can NOT hide the truth.
Waterdisport22
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Nov 14 2021 08:37AM     link to this

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Dr.....

Florida did just that. They set up 13 facilities along the West and East Coast.

If an elderly patient tested positive...they were NOT sent back to the Nursing Home.

Like they did in NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, PENNSYLVANIA, MICHIGAN & CALIFORNIA.


These governors are all DEMOCRATS.

They should be tried for murder.



On top of that these countries used therapeutics....like Ivermectin. In the US doctors were fired for prescribing it AND many....many....pharmacys would NOT give it out.

Now why is that......


PS Pfizer and the maker of Ivermectin (?) are both making a pill that has a protise inhibitor.....just like Ivermectin.

You see there is NO money in Invermectin....since its off patent.


This WHOLE thing is a crock.
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Nov 14 2021 09:34AM     link to this

You’re an idiot
TheGentlemanLvr
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Nov 14 2021 09:40AM     link to this

Sorry… for clarification, Waterd is the idiot. OP also. There are others, but this comment is for Waterdis.

Let’s get back to meeting ladies.
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Nov 14 2021 12:31PM     link to this

Those people never gave me or anyone I know who caught covid a call. How do they know whether or not we got a new disability. I call bullshit.
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Nov 14 2021 12:43PM     link to this

They are coming to an end of getting everybody they can convince to getting the shots..

They are going moving to the main reason of the pandemic. That is to implement the vaccine passports. They are going to include those who have natural immunity on the passport. It will be a fight to make that happen and those that know not to get shot will feel a since of relief and will be less resistant to using a passport if it doesn't require a shot.

The vaccine passports are going to turn into carbon usage passports. They are going to tie them to regular dmv license and id's
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Nov 14 2021 01:22PM     link to this

All of you complaining about this like you aren't happy for having magnetic skin and better cellphone reception


I mean honestly, you all are ridiculous. It could be cos I got a new sim card but it was also around the same time that I got my 2nd pfizer shot so I'm pretty sure it's the nanotech that did it so ffs go get your shot, enjoy your higher download speeds and stfu


or bathe in borax and ruin it for the rest of us, at this point I'm tired of you plague rats destroying everything
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Nov 14 2021 01:28PM     link to this

Then the government will force you to have a ID chip implant.
But those in power will have some type of exemption or limitation.
Isn't this where we're really going?
Remember, all members of congress and their staff are exempt
from the vaccine mandates.
DeLaine
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Nov 14 2021 01:29PM     link to this

dude just shut up
TheGentlemanLvr
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Nov 14 2021 02:28PM     link to this

I thought the main reason for the pandemic was to make Trump lose the election?

Wait, no, he lost it all on his own, for being a narcissistic bi-polar a-hole, bully, racist, con-man, grifter, womanizer and just plain bad person.
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Nov 14 2021 02:30PM     link to this

I see some good-hearted people in here trying to correct covid misinformation. Good on you but I gave up on that a while ago. There is no amount of information that will convince them that they are wrong. They'll never leave their circle-jerk bubbles rife with pseudoscience, grifters, cognitive dissonance, and hack websites that reaffirm their confirmation biases.

What makes this even worse is there is handful of data that shows covid can lower a person's IQ. Anti-vaxxers weren't very high on the IQ scale to begin with. Now they're getting infected with a virus that makes them even less intelligent. They're only hurting themselves and lack the cognitive ability to even realize it.
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Nov 14 2021 02:35PM     link to this

Many natural immunity advocates are going to be disappointed when they nearly pass out from walking up a flight of stairs.
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Nov 14 2021 07:41PM     link to this

What part of “highly variable” do you morons not understand? Roughly 141 million people have been INFECTED. This does NOT mean that 141 million people have humoral memory that goes along with what you call “natural immunity.”
Night-Rider
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Nov 14 2021 07:51PM     link to this

On the other hand, you wonder how effective innate immunity was in people who show no signs of natural immunity.

Still a lot we don’t know.

Which is why we need to depend on a process that produces a highly predictive immune response when considering level of immunity in a population. This process is vaccination.

GET VACCINATED!
Night-Rider
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Nov 14 2021 08:10PM     link to this

Here’s a little taste of how much variability there is with infection:

One study in Israel found 95% of people who tested positive for COVID eventually had antibodies. Another study from Germany found only15% of those who tested positive for COVID developed antibodies.

GinaGalaxy
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Nov 15 2021 04:52AM     link to this

I never heard of covid.
GinaGalaxy
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Nov 15 2021 04:52AM     link to this

Lol
Waterdisport22
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Nov 15 2021 09:51AM     link to this

If you do not believe the next step is to use the passport to control your life.

Look at China.....low n behold they are doing that NOW.


You receive "points" or get a better rating if you follow what Gov wants you to do.




So YES....it is happening NOW.
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Nov 15 2021 09:53AM     link to this

the shitty thing about this conversation is we never get the real facts as people are willing to block every "fact" with fake facts - for some reason people on both sides have this urge "to be right or not to be wrong".


in reality we could unveil this dilemma if we work together and only look at scientific facts.

by example, one is talking natural immunity, another is talking antibodies present.
those two do not mean the same.

i think the real question is - those who have had covid19, do they have some sort of resistance to the virus, and if so - is this natural resistance better/stronger than the vax?
does the natural resistance stay with you lifelong or does the natural resistance subside and compared to the vax, does the vax loose strength over time?




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Nov 15 2021 10:34AM     link to this

What we do know... in the U.S., 780,000+ people died of Covid, and most all of them were unvaccinated.

Before vaccinations were widely available, about 11 months ago, dead bodies were piling up faster than they could bury/cremate them. 3,000 a day was the average. That right there tells you this is something different than the flu.

Today, ICU beds are again getting full of unvaccinated people in some areas.

Unvaccinated people are more likely to spread the disease, whether they have symptoms or not.

It's not about control.

It's not about freedoms.

The government doesn't give a flying F about controlling you, even though that's what the Fox Propaganda Network, the ReTrumplicans and some others say.

It's about being a good human. Doing your part. Helping your fellow man who may be compromised.

If you are fighting the vaccination, you're basically saying, "Fuck everyone else -- I'm a selfish bastard."

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Nov 15 2021 11:50AM     link to this

The imaginary liberal nemesis...

Like the ones who fabricated a fake Russian dossier that destroyed the entire last administration? Those imaginary liberal nemeses, along with the "imaginary" liberal mainstream media?

And what about those "imaginary nemeses" in the Justice Department who look the other way as liberals commit national security and election crimes, and then invite CNN along to video the FBI SWAT team kick down Roger Stone's door at 5 am, when he had already informed them that if and when he was indicted to notify his lawyer and he would surrender at the FBI office?

Or who arrested Steve Bannon for asserting executive privilege on the advice of counsel and failing to respond to a congressional subpoena? Has anyone EVER been charged under these circuumstances? Answer: NEVER.

Or who ignored IRS Director Lois Lerner who used the IRS as a political weapon against patriotic 501(c)(3) organizations during the Obama Administration? Or who failed to answer questions before Congress? Not prosecuted at all!

And that liberal mainstream media? Under intense pressure, the NY Post just published a retraction on the Russian Dossier, and pointed the finger squarely at Hillary Clinton and her campaign. One down...hundreds to go in the corrupt media1

Imaginary liberal nemeses...uh huh.
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Nov 15 2021 12:02PM     link to this

shut up plague rat
DeLaine
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Nov 15 2021 01:17PM     link to this

I mean I agree with most of that but you could have put it in one comment instead of 3
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Nov 15 2021 01:27PM     link to this

Can't fix stupid De
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