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Waterdisport22
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Locked. No further comments permitted.FAUCI ALERT — American Heart Association issues warning on mRNA vaccines
Dec 2 2021 12:02PM more by Waterdisport22
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American Heart Association:“The [PLUS Cardiac Test] score has been measured every 3-6 months in our patient population for 8 years. Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients.”

— Marina Medvin 🇺🇸 (@MarinaMedvin) December 2, 2021


New study and warning from the American Heart Association: mRNA vaccines dramatically increase risk of developing heart disease — “The PLUS Cardiac Test score has been measured every 3-6 months in our patient population for 8 years.

Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients.”



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Yup...safe & effective.....

I’m looking at you Fauchi, Pfizer, Moderna – the time of reckoning is approaching. This is but the first crack that will lead to total collapse & subsequent offering of you up as scapegoats.

We know it goes well beyond you f*cks – but a good place to start.

As for the rest – memory-holing won’t work – the internet never forgets – and neither do angry freedom-loving people who were wronged.

Big Pharma and Woke Media have been trying to debunk this study for over two weeks with the “Expression of Concern” label , claiming the “data collection method was faulty”
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

This is what they’ll do going forward – claim any study that doesn’t fit the narrative is bogus because, well , “we said so!”



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Waterdisport22
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Dec 2 2021 12:03PM     link to this

In other Fauci news today.....





Fauci… Definition of Fully Vaccinated likely to change…

This will not end well....



AFMadness
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Dec 2 2021 12:09PM     link to this

He really deserves Life in Prison.
flash911
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Dec 2 2021 12:12PM     link to this

Nope.

This was a crime against humanity.
Night-Rider
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Dec 2 2021 12:13PM     link to this

An expression of concern has been published by the journal that posted the original abstract cited by the OP:

"This article expresses concern regarding abstract 'Abstract 10712: Mrna COVID Vaccines Dramatically Increase Endothelial Inflammatory Markers and ACS Risk as Measured by the PULS Cardiac Test: a Warning' which originally published November 8, 2021.

"Soon after publication of the above abstract in Circulation, it was brought to the American Heart Association Committee on Scientific Sessions Program’s attention that there are potential errors in the abstract. Specifically, there are several typographical errors, there is no data in the abstract regarding myocardial T-cell infiltration, there are no statistical analyses for significance provided, and the author is not clear that only anecdotal data was used.

"We are publishing this Expression of Concern until a suitable correction is published to indicate that the abstract in its current version may not be reliable."


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Night-Rider
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Dec 2 2021 12:17PM     link to this

You can't win with ideologues like Waterdisport22. Even if there are scientific reasons why there are problems with the original abstract, he'll reject these no matter what and conveniently claim a conspiracy.

At the very least, we should wait for the outcome concerning this issue.
Night-Rider
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Dec 2 2021 12:21PM     link to this

"Fauci… Definition of Fully Vaccinated likely to change…"

Well, if you go by the science, he appears to be correct. There is a waning in effectiveness for the two-shot regimen which is corrected back to the original effectiveness by the booster, so based on this scientific fact, the definition should change.
lapierre
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Dec 2 2021 01:57PM     link to this

maybe they should not call it a vaccination

the flu shot is not called a vaccination for that same reason

PSHorneycouple
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Dec 2 2021 01:59PM     link to this

If the definition has to to change. Shouldn't the scrutiny of the of the jab itself also change? It was generally implied that 2 jabs and you'd be protected?

Should the administration keep wanting to mandate things that NO one knows the ultimate outcome?

Im not a conspiracy nut job. The jab has its place. But the continued push that its the be all solution is a no win for us all.
DavisM1
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Dec 2 2021 02:14PM     link to this

Those that support the vaccine, serious question..will there ever be a limit to how many boosters you accept before you say..”nah, I’m good”...?
Healer
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Dec 2 2021 02:16PM     link to this

It’s just an Abstract for American Heart Association meeting. No 10712
Not vetted like article publications. With very little methodology mentioned.
Written by a Cardiac surgeon turned health guru from Palm Springs.
it’s not the opinion of the AHA
Healer
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Dec 2 2021 02:21PM     link to this

@ DavisM1: people have been taking boosters for decades
Even tetanus needs a booster every 10 years.
But I don’t think anyone knows for sure about this mutating virus what’s going to be the bottom line.
PSHorneycouple
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Dec 2 2021 02:30PM     link to this

Are we generalizing that any professional in their respective health field has an agenda? But according to Lord Fauci all is without question?
DavisM1
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Dec 2 2021 02:38PM     link to this

@Healer-umm..The vaccine being used today is not an actual vaccine by conventional definition, it is radically brand new experimental mRNA encoding and transcription programming, so the obvious reality is, it has not been tested long enough to understand safety or efficacy -- Plain and simple
DavisM1
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Dec 2 2021 02:39PM     link to this

Also it’s not a vaccine by definition, they literally had to change the definition for this vaccine, so that argument doesn’t really hold.
ragingbull7
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Dec 2 2021 03:02PM     link to this

why is every one mad at Fauci... dude is just the lil bia*ch that who reports whatever is scripted
TheGentlemanLvr
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Dec 2 2021 04:28PM     link to this

OP - you're a moron.


Where's the hot women at?
Harpooner
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Dec 2 2021 04:52PM     link to this

Davis - “it is radically brand new experimental mRNA encoding and transcription programming.”

In actuality, mRNA vaccines have been around since the 1960s. By contrast, the polio vaccine was developed in less than three years.
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Night-Rider
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Dec 2 2021 05:04PM     link to this

People have to take medicine every day. I get the flu shot once a year. If I get repeat boosters to maintain vaccine efficacy, so what? Based on data from sources that I trust (e.g. not Waterdisport22 of Hx), I believe it is safe and effective for me.

And yes, if we had high compliance throughout the world with vaccinations and boosters that reflect new variants, based on experience with other infectious diseases, I believe COVID would be under control.
Healer
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Dec 2 2021 05:12PM     link to this

@DavisM1
Don’t play around with words
It’s a fucking vaccine
It boosts your antibodies just like all of them
DavisM1
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Dec 2 2021 05:12PM     link to this

@Harpooner-ohh..really?? Please name all the viral vectors vaccines since the 60’s..

I’ll wait.

Polio vaccines started in 1932...years upon years of development & research were behind them..wtf are you even talking about???

Public Polio vaccination started in 1957..

“Kolmer began his vaccine development project in 1932 and ultimately focused on producing an attenuated or live virus vaccine”
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Night-Rider
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Dec 2 2021 05:14PM     link to this

I admit I may be wrong about vaccinating our way out of it. There are complications. One of them may be the zoonotic transfer of new variants from animals to humans. I think Warerdisport22 mentioned this, and he may be correct. In fact there is a theory that the omicron variant is a product of human to animal back to human transmission of the virus that causes COVID.
DavisM1
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Dec 2 2021 05:16PM     link to this

@Healer-no it’s not a vaccine by definition..

Before:

Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

After

Vaccine: A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

By the new definition, what does that tell you about immunity?”



They are the one playing with words..not me

DavisM1
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Dec 2 2021 05:29PM     link to this

Just so everyone understands here, I copied and pasted these from the CDC's website on another forum on 7/19/2021 from the link below them.


Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.

Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.

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The same link has this information NOW!
Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

Vaccine: A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease.

Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.


Can anyone tell me the difference between the two?
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PSHorneycouple
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Dec 2 2021 05:56PM     link to this

^^^Maybe the original meaning singular. While the second implies multiple?
DavisM1
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Dec 2 2021 06:01PM     link to this

...”producing protection”..(new definition), which can vary in degree..is not the same as “produce immunity to a specific disease”...

This is fraud. For the CDC to falsely get people to believe they are consenting to an injection that confers immunity, & thus change the definition.

If fraud is proven, then the Big Pharma contracts with the federal government that contain the "immune from liability" clauses can be invalidated.

This is a move to cover their asses.
InsearchofStarfish
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Dec 2 2021 06:24PM     link to this

never liked the guy...he was sabotaging trump from DAY 1 of this thing with his liberal agenda


nice deflection and laugh with interviewer ...has zero to do with health issues, but lets you know where he sits



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DavisM1
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Dec 2 2021 07:18PM     link to this

“Updated”...lol..that’s what we are calling it now.


FFS, you two are beyond retarded.
jackrabbit33
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Dec 2 2021 07:37PM     link to this

Hey Spanner...

If and when you ever move out of you mom's basement and sign a lease or buy property your going to be lucky if you can muster the presence of mind to pay attention to details when people start changing the definition of things.

Big Pharma is locked at the hip with big Govt on this and they are trying to cover their asses big time.

Nobody here trusts you opinion when it comes to details or rational thinking







DavisM1
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Dec 2 2021 08:17PM     link to this

Don’t mind Spanner, he probably woke up to a blowjob this morning..

I bet that’s the last time you fall asleep with your mouth open on the bus ride to work again, hey Spanner?

DavisM1
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Dec 2 2021 08:52PM     link to this

Yea, your mothers basement Spanner, you know, where she walked in on you & you told her “It's not masturbation if you use a puppet.”

..member?
is100
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Dec 2 2021 10:33PM     link to this

Google search mRNA vaccine and heart disease LOL
AFMadness
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Dec 2 2021 11:43PM     link to this

Davis and Water guy are right.

Most the rest got nothing but name calling. I'm offering a big L tatted on your fore heads free. Just show your passport to the door man and he'll give you a lollipop when you leave.
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Dec 2 2021 11:48PM     link to this

Fauchi resume
Resume of every idiot on this blog: dropped out of community college.

But experts with credentials and experience and intelligence are not as trustworthy as a neurotic searching the internet for cherry picked statistics and unverifiable or outright manufactured assertions. Ask yourselves. Do you go to a doctor for chest pain or to your crazy uncle with 13 cats who thinks his urine should be saved in jars to block the CIA from hearing his thoughts?

Character is not rage and suspicion and overestimation of ones abilities. It is humility and reason and respect for the achievements of others without pointless envy.

This blind antipathy to professionalism is killing people. All of you are killing people. History will damn you.
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Dec 3 2021 12:00AM     link to this

Cept we haven't pulled the vocal cords out of dogs for experimentation. Etc...
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Dec 3 2021 06:55AM     link to this

I just want to know why he hasn’t been brought up on charges for lying to congress!
jackrabbit33
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Dec 3 2021 07:21AM     link to this

^ exactly
Zeros
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Dec 3 2021 11:46AM     link to this

Speaking from my own experience, ever since I got the 2nd shot in August, my left shoulder hasn't felt the same.

When I am lifting something heavy or stretching it out, I feel it in my shoulder like I just received it that day.

I've had many vaccines in my lifetime and never kept feeling it in the site of the shot months later.



DavisM1
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Dec 3 2021 12:12PM     link to this

If we are going by the animal trials, and past mRNA Studies, Once re-infected those that took the vaccine will start to have some serious issues. All animals either died or suffered severe neurologica/respiratory issues..we are seeing this more & more. I don’t wish this on anyone, I have friends & family that took the jab, I just wish they would have listened & don’t their research.
DavisM1
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Dec 3 2021 12:13PM     link to this

*done their research
Night-Rider
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Dec 3 2021 12:13PM     link to this

No problems here with vaccines or booster.

Maybe there’s a curious correlation between being against mitigation efforts, mask mandates, or vaccine mandates and claiming that the vaccine may have caused harm?
DavisM1
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Dec 3 2021 12:24PM     link to this

They are clearly doing harm, I can link hundreds of stories, dozens of studies, the data that was just released from Pfizer themselves,& personal experience myself.

Let’s not pretend it’s not happening, that doesn’t do anyone any good.

And pleas, a mask does not stop viral transmission..however droplet masks do work. their intended purposes are to stop droplets from spreading. what they dont do is prevent infectious diseases.
DavisM1
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Dec 3 2021 12:27PM     link to this

also, did you ever do the vape experiment?
DavisM1
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Dec 3 2021 12:28PM     link to this

This one
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