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InsearchofStarfish
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Dec 22 2021 06:22PM more by InsearchofStarfish
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Omicron Has 80% Lower Risk of Hospitalization in South Africa



U.S. authorizes Pfizer oral COVID-19 treatment, first for at-home use

don't remember biden talking about this on the forefront with any excitement...that's the difference between the two btw. one is doom and gloom and the other is hopeful

why didn't he talk about it? let's have it



waters has it right...been saying this for few years. think alec and fauci have met before...they can meet again for a dinner party with show and tell



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https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-oral-covid-19-pill-gets-us-authorization-at-home-use-2021-12-22/
      
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Angler1
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Dec 22 2021 06:30PM     link to this

The democraps will try to keep the sheeple in fear as long as possible.
While they all go to partying maskless....

Get your 4th shot sheeple!



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Dec 22 2021 08:08PM     link to this

Everywhere I go indoors,.. Starbucks, Grocery Store, Home Depot... more than 50% people with no masks on.

Many people are DONE playing Pandemic.


Night-Rider
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Dec 22 2021 08:09PM     link to this

Paxlovid seems like the real deal. It's been as effective as monoclonal antibodies in reducing severe disease and it won't be as sensitive to changing variants as monoclonal antibodies. I just wish we had sped up development and production of this. We need people to be able to get this now, not two months from now.

Between vaccination, monoclonal antibodies, and Paxlovid, we hopefully can keep severe cases to a minimum.
Angler1
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Dec 22 2021 08:12PM     link to this

Just like Ivermectin...
jackrabbit33
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Dec 22 2021 08:18PM     link to this

And while everybody was looking the other way...

US Secret Service states that $100B was stolen from COVID relief funds.

Not a conspiracy... pick your news source.

Congress is so happy to vote for these huge spending Bill's but theres needs to be more oversight on use of funds.
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Dec 22 2021 08:34PM     link to this

At the risk of stacking posts...

Supreme Court will take cases from some 25 states objecting to Biden's vaccine mandates.
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Angler1
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Dec 22 2021 08:38PM     link to this

It's about time. The High Court should have ruled on this crap a 6 months ago.

JustHavinFun1
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Dec 22 2021 10:00PM     link to this

Ok children.....from the actual study:

SGTF = Omicron variant

"It is difficult to disentangle the relative contribution of high levels of previous population immunity versus intrinsic lower virulence to the observed lower disease severity. Our finding of no difference in severity in SGTF compared to non-SGTF infected individualsin the same time period, and the lower risk of severity in SGTF compared to earlier Delta infected individuals, suggests that this reduced severity may be in part a result of high levels of population immunity (due to natural infection and/or vaccination). Incomplete vaccination data, and the fact that the majority ofre-infections werelikely not detected, resulted in incomplete adjustment for the effect of prior immunity in our analyses."

IN OTHER WORDS, most of the 80% reduction is FAKE, due to population comparisons at different points in time.

This is why morons should not quote scientific studies they don't understand.

P.s. Interesting that you put so much faith in researchers from a 3rd world country, but don't believe the top scientists in the world.



DrBoogie
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Dec 22 2021 10:34PM     link to this

The CDC data shows that it's the seniors that are dying from covid,
yet the media and the government want you to believe that it's the
young that are dying from covid, when the younger you are, the
less likely you are to die of covid.
But the government want the young to be vaccinated because
they don't want anyone to die from the virus. As many can see,
this policy is impractical and costly.
jackrabbit33
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Dec 22 2021 10:45PM     link to this

The 80% reduction isnt "fake"...

It's just not an "apples to apples" population comparison since the more recent population has gained immunity either naturally or through vaccines. That's a good thing.

All that matters is that the new variant appears to bring on milder symptoms.

GoBallsDeep
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Dec 22 2021 11:02PM     link to this

"IN OTHER WORDS, most of the 80% reduction is FAKE, due to population comparisons at different points in time."

Overlooking the obvious TOS at the outset, it appears as though you
Didn't read your own unattributed copy/paste, you idiot.

Now, I understand your preference for just running out a blog with the stacking method.
At least that doesn't make your lack of intelligence quite so obvious.

Do us all a favor and avoid posting in current events blogs altogether.
You embarrass yourself.
Thanks in advance!
GoBallsDeep
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Dec 22 2021 11:05PM     link to this

Next time, link the study
I'm too fucking lazy to Google that shit
mmmk?
wyattbeme
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Dec 23 2021 12:51AM     link to this

all democrats are pieces of
Night-Rider
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Dec 23 2021 09:26AM     link to this

There are more studies from England and Scotland that show lower risk of hospitalization from Omicron than Delta.

However, it’s a different question to ask if Omicron is innately less virulent than Delta. We don’t know the answer to that. That would compare unvaccinated, COVID-naive hospitalizations for Omicron vs. Delta.

I’m sure we’ll know eventually.

The lower risk of hospitalizations is due to vaccination, boostering, and natural immunity.
mildlyamusing1
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Dec 23 2021 09:57AM     link to this

Those who take precautions and who are vaccinated dont need to worry much.

It’s the maskless, unvaccinated morons who should be worried. That should be clear.







DavisM1
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Dec 23 2021 10:20AM     link to this

So let’s get this straight, on the military bases I work on, (4 total), & friends that range from IT’s, to accountants we are all seeing Covid cases rising..the problem is, businesses can no longer blame the unvaxxed..we have to prove we are negative twice a week...guess who’s to blame?

Tell me again where Omicron was discovered?

Oh that’s right in 4 jabbed boys.


Maybe it’s time people woke up
Harthat
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Dec 23 2021 10:35AM     link to this

"Tell me again where Omicron was discovered?"

We all live in this now small world.
Efficient Transportations makes this rapid spread possible.
I think South Africa has 27% vaccination rate.
Scientist think more covid mutation occurs on non-vaccinated people.
They say the answer is that the whole world needs to get vaccinated at a high percentage rate.

I'll let you figure out the rest.
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Dec 23 2021 10:37AM     link to this

" businesses can no longer blame the unvaxxed"
Because you said so?
Tells us more.
Oh, never mind. I just remember your nonsense you post.
Harthat
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Dec 23 2021 10:47AM     link to this

As long as there is a environment for the virus to breed.
This will go on.
nonvaccinated = optimum environment
And as when we humans breed, out offspring (our variants) are different from us.
So are the virus offspring.
flash911
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Dec 23 2021 10:48AM     link to this

This is what Lib panic looks like.
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DavisM1
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Dec 23 2021 10:54AM     link to this

“We all live in this now small world.
Efficient Transportations makes this rapid spread possible.
I think South Africa has 27% vaccination rate.
Scientist think more covid mutation occurs on non-vaccinated people.
They say the answer is that the whole world needs to get vaccinated at a high percentage rate.

I'll let you figure out the rest. “

Sorry that doesn’t really fly..Omicron after being discovered in S.Africa was directly discovered again in Australia. You cannot ener or leave Australia unless vaccinated & one must wear a mask at all times, including on in bound flights.

So try again.
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Dec 23 2021 10:54AM     link to this

Delta likely came from India, before widespread vaccination took place.

Omicron may have been “born” in South Africa, with only about a 26% vaccination rate, but with a much higher infection rate.

Still, Omicron most likely came from an immunocompromised person or even from human to animal to human transmission.

“The vaccination coverage rate is inversely correlated to the mutation frequency of the SARS-CoV-2 delta variants in 16 countries of 20 countries studied.” See link.

Vaccination likely reduces mutation rate, not enhances it.
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DavisM1
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Dec 23 2021 10:55AM     link to this

“businesses can no longer blame the unvaxxed"
Because you said so?
Tells us more.
Oh, never mind. I just remember your nonsense you post.”


No it’s actually policy at many businesses now where Covid is popping up..once again.

Perhaps you should look into the definition of a “breakthrough case” & report back
Night-Rider
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Dec 23 2021 10:58AM     link to this

The effectiveness against infections was never 100% for vaccines, so unless math has suddenly transformed, that means that it’s been expected that vaccinated people can get infected and pass on the virus.
DavisM1
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Dec 23 2021 11:01AM     link to this

“As long as there is a environment for the virus to breed.
This will go on.
nonvaccinated = optimum environment
And as when we humans breed, out offspring (our variants) are different from us.
So are the virus offspring’”

Once again, completely false. Yes, Antigenic shift (mutation) is a common normal biological function. Even though Cronavirus are considered more stable in this regard than flu/virus, nevertheless inevitably will occur within large population infection spread. This is precisely why vaccines have little to no chance of effectiveness for Corona type viruses. History has proven this true over and over. Corna vaccines are notoriously problematic ( mostly due to rapid weakening) and have never been successful.


SARS-COV-2 will not/cannot be contained or eradicated. What is going on right now, is known in epidemiology as the pathogen endemic equilibrium phase, (viral stasis) and is perfectly normal. Virulence weakening and dilution is what always happens when mutations and naturally acquired herd immunity is occurring throughout the populations. Invariably mutation causes infection rate increase ( seasonality still being the biggest factor) and lethality rate decrease, henceforth it becomes ubiquitous and permanent. Vaccination at this stage is essentially pointless


Study shows evidence Pfizer vaccine reprograms innate immune response

The BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 reprograms both adaptive and innate immune responses”

Link 1’

They showed that after administration of the vaccine, the innate immune response to other immune system triggers like other viruses, bacteria and fungi was changed in complex ways. Evidence also showed that once the adaptive immune response to COVID “wears off” basically, it could make people more susceptible to more serious illness from COVID infection (not to mention other things) due to these innate immune system changes.


And don’t ever tell me it’s the unjabbed that are spreading..

WHO lowers cycle threshold count for those that have been vaccinated

WHO Information Notice for IVD Users 2020/05
Nucleic acid testing (NAT) technologies that use polymerase chain reaction (PCR) for detection of SARS-CoV-2

Link 2

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Harthat
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Dec 23 2021 11:01AM     link to this

" You cannot ener or leave Australia unless vaccinated & one must wear a mask at all times,"

Ok, you're on! Vaccination, with booster does not mean you won't get covid, any of them.
It means you will most likely to not end up in the hospital or die from any of the covids now floating around, unless you not health. So someone with all the required vaccines could be a carrier, be allowed to enter Australia.
Boom, he passes it on to someone.
Harthat
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Dec 23 2021 11:04AM     link to this

I'm going to do what i think is right based on the experts advice.
You do what you want. Although data shows your mentality is dead wrong.
By dead, I mean the mentality and the ones who follow it.
DavisM1
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Dec 23 2021 11:06AM     link to this

actually you will end up in the hospital & die..that evidence is pretty clear.

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The government blames the unvaxed to scapegoat and avoid scrutiny.
The vaxed blame the unvaxed because they’ve either uncritically accepted the propaganda or because they’re secretly lashing out that they may have made an irreversible mistake.



Quite the dilemma here..

Government needs to convince the unjabbed that the jab works in order to get the first two doses...

At the same time..

Government needs to convince the jabbed the jab doesn’t work in order to get the BOOSTERS..





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Dec 23 2021 11:08AM     link to this

^^ die from the jab that is, because remember it is not a vaccine by definition, in fact, It looks like what they are jabbing people with is beyond "leaky" and moving on to actually "failed", meaning that the effectiveness is dropping to the point that it no longer qualifies as a vaccine.

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flash911
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Dec 23 2021 11:18AM     link to this

"Vaccination, with booster does not mean you won't get covid, any of them.
It means you will most likely to not end up in the hospital or die from any of the covids now floating around, unless you not health."

Honest comment here. We hear ALL THE TIME that the jabbed has a lower incidence of hospitalization and death, but can anyone site one medical study that proves this? Just ONE?? Fake news Fauci CDC / FDA / NIH messaging does not count.
TheGentlemanLvr
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Dec 23 2021 11:31AM     link to this

Bottom line, those in the U.S. who are vaccinated and boosted are far less likely to end up in the ICU or dead.

It remains an established fact that a great majority of people in the ICUs, and also the morgue, are unvaccinated or unboosted.

It remains established that any mask is better than no mask, but preferred is the N95, KN95 or KF94 "respirator" masks.

With Delta and now Omicron, it's safest to wear a proper mask to do your part for your fellow man, if not yourself.

You anti-vaxxers can make all kinds of arguments about "Dems" or "Control" or whatever, but these are hard facts.

I'm glad I'm vaccinated and boosted. I feel confident that if I do catch something, I'll be able to stream TV from my cozy bed at home and recover without issue.

You people who are not vaccinated and boosted may not be so lucky. Plus, you're not helping the problem at all, but instead making it worse.

If Fox or the GOP want to complain about Biden not making Covid go away, just look at what the anti-vaxxers are doing, and you know the greatest cause of why we're still fighting it.

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Dec 23 2021 12:52PM     link to this

Can you site sources on that TGL? I've heard it both ways.

Or are those just MSM 'established' facts?

Standing by,
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Dec 23 2021 12:57PM     link to this

Bottom line thosr who get vaxxed are far more likely to die from an anuerysm stroke or heart attack and it actually lowers your immune system after it disappears in a few short months

Enjoy your jab sheep
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^^^Again, false on all accounts. That “90% effective” the vaccine publishers put out is based off of an already 99.997% survival rate...vaccine does not give you 90% reduction...here is the actual efficiency

AZ - 1.3%
Pfizer - 0.84%
Moderna - 1.2%
J&J - 1.2%

And NO MASK will stop viral transmission. The masks do nothing to stop aerosolized cold and flu virus @10nm in diameter, the holes in the mask are 500x larger than the virus. Not even N95 can stop cold and flu virus. The masks actually drive disease because of the way CO2 recycling impacts the immune system coupled with the fact that paper and fabric are mediums for bacterial growth as they are in constant contact with your hands and the fact that mask wearing puts you in a fear based state, especially when interacting with other masked individuals as you have no non verbal facial communication to rely on so we default to fear as base survival mechanism.
Masks are critically important for the engineers of the Fake Pandemic. Step one to defeating them: take off the useless mask.
Masks are beyond useless, stop recommending them.


I swear you people have lost your minds. Keep on believing Big Pharma & Big Daddy Government..though, we can see it’s working out great.
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Dec 23 2021 01:21PM     link to this

Sorry TacoBandit, my response was to Gentlemanlover, not you
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Dec 23 2021 01:55PM     link to this

Data from the Uk shows that the vast majority of Omicron hospitalizations are among the double or triple vaxxed.

Link 1

"Stratified Cox proportional hazard regression assessed that the risk of presentation to emergency care or hospital admission with Omicron was approximately three-fifths of that for Delta (Hazard Ratio 0.62, 95% CI: 0.55 to 0.69).
𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗰𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗽𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗳𝗶𝗲𝗱 𝗯𝘆 𝘃𝗮𝗰𝗰𝗶𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝘁𝘂𝘀."
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Dec 23 2021 02:47PM     link to this

Bottom line gent, more people have died this than last year! FACT

If 60 to 70% of people are double jabbed, how can this years death rate be higher?
I guess the shots don't work like so many of you think...

Shots, masks or lock downs do not work.. But don't forget to get your 4th shot....
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Dec 23 2021 03:02PM     link to this

The Pfizer drug maybe a game changer but a couple of caveats: 1) it needs to be taken quickly after symptoms occur; 2) not sure how many doses Pfizer has available now for distribution. The problem, of course, is that Omicron is an immediate problem and the transmission rates are freakin scary.

You should all check out the risk assessment model (google QCovid Risk Calculator) developed by the Brits. Tells you the probability of dying if you contact Covid. The risk for folks in their 60's that are vaccinated is not trivial. The risk for old folks that are unvaccinated is off the charts.

Starfish - who is Mr. Positive that you were referring to? Hopefully, not DJT. His inaugural speech was the most dystopian rant I have heard in years.

Since Covid/vaccination is just so political, I wanted to point out that you right wing lunatics exploded in a pious fury when Obamacare wanted to include cost panels. You called them death panels. Well, your antivaxxer rhetoric is the real thing.- fuck old people, just let them die of Covid.
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Dec 23 2021 03:07PM     link to this

Those old people were going to die anyways. Death numbers SHOULD be going up at this time, with a 78 year average life expectancy and considering the world wide crash and then the huge boom in the 40's. The demographics alone would have given us higher deaths this year with an expectation of it rising over the next three or four years based solely on the fact that those born at the height of the post-war boom (1946-1952) are now reaching the statistical probability of death.

We would see a natural jump right now if only due to this fact of demographics.

And if we are talking about early treatment, Monoclonal antiboduse are far more effective than any jab..& in abundance. There is ZERO SHORTAGE
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Dec 23 2021 03:15PM     link to this

@Angler - If the 30-40% that are unvaccinated are dying off a much higher rate that more than make up for the folks that are protected by the vaccine. Thank god you are not my financial advisor and I hope you haven't put other folks in the poor house because you are moron when it comes to mathematical reasoning.
DavisM1
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Dec 23 2021 03:18PM     link to this

Again, the reason the unjabbed (it’s not a vaccine by definition) are being recorded as dying “more” is because the change of guidelines that I linked previously.

Also please list the hospitals that you think the jabbed are dying in greater numbers..
Angler1
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Dec 23 2021 03:23PM     link to this

If the 30-40% that are unvaccinated are dying off a much higher rate that more than make up for the folks that are protected by the vaccine. Thank god you are not my financial advisor and I hope you haven't put other folks in the poor house because you are moron when it comes to mathematical reasoning.


LOL, If I were your financial adviser, you might be semi retired like me at 59....
I only work a few days a month to help keep busy...
jackrabbit33
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Dec 23 2021 03:34PM     link to this

Royal Caribbean's Odyssey of the Seas denied entry into Curacao, Aruba after COVID outbreak

From the story...

"The outbreak comes after Odyssey of the Seas, which set sail for an eight-night, round-trip voyage to the South Caribbean on Dec. 18, briefly RETURNED to port in Fort Lauderdale, Florida earlier this week due to a COVID-infected passenger. "

Now here's the makeup of the "OUTBREAK"...

"According to Royal Caribbean, the 55 individuals who have tested positive are FULLY VACCINATED and mildly symptomatic or asymptomatic. The cruise sailed with 95% of its onboard community fully vaccinated and the impacted individuals represent 1.1% of the onboard community. "

So people pay good money to go on cruises. 55 vaxxed people test positive and they turn a boat around but I can understand Aruba and Curacao saying GTFO.

Does it matter if original "COVID infected passenger" was vaxxed or not?

Nobody died... the boat should have let the other 99% of people who are not sick go to shore and keep the others on the boat.

This maniacal protocol will kill the cruise line industry


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dakegg
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Dec 23 2021 03:35PM     link to this

Biden won’t run again in 2024.
DavisM1
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Dec 23 2021 04:16PM     link to this

Biden won’t, but the same handlers will still be controlling the next puppet
jackrabbit33
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Dec 23 2021 04:30PM     link to this

Next Biden wants to nuke the filibuster so he can ram the totally unconstitutional HR1 "voting rights" legislation.
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