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Locked. No further comments permitted.Check out the state migration chart for 2021 Guess who is number #1
Dec 24 2021 01:46AM more by Waterdisport22
Tags: Orange County, Random (All tags)

The big losers are Massachusetts, Illinois, New York and California.

While the winners in the Covid migration sweepstakes are Arizona, Texas and Florida is #1.


Comments: Not mine

Wonder if this has anything to do with how states handled Covid + taxes.....just a guess.

Californians made what California is today and now they are fleeing to a Red state and bringing their Leftist ideas with them and wondering why California is in such a mess. Stupid Leftist all of them. Stay in the state you destroyed.

MOST of the states people are leaving are Dem controlled....speaks volumes.

I suppose nine of the top ten out migration states being Dem-controlled is just a statistical fluke?


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Dec 24 2021 07:26AM     link to this

^^^^^

Sure hope you brush you teeth every hour
You've been sucking so much H2O ass
Your breath has gotta smell like shit

Get an opinion
Have a clue
Stop hating
Brush teeth

Let the man blog


Sheeeeesh!
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DavisM1
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Dec 24 2021 08:12AM     link to this

Typical, nothing but ad hominem attacks from the left, yet again.
imzomnia
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Dec 24 2021 08:19AM     link to this

Left or Right, being stupid does not discriminate.
Night-Rider
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Dec 24 2021 08:29AM     link to this

Good. All of the anti-vaxxers can leave. Good riddance.

Next step, please secede and create your own Confederacy like your forerunners did back in the 1860’s. This time we won’t stop you.
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Dec 24 2021 08:46AM     link to this

Ah, fuck it. I’m just joking.

Have a Merry Christmas.
bwana
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Dec 24 2021 09:01AM     link to this

More water and oxygen, and less traffic for me!
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Dec 24 2021 09:53AM     link to this

I wonder how many of these people who leave blue states are still voting by mail in ballot along with dead people.
JustHavinFun1
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Dec 24 2021 11:05AM     link to this

Merry Christmas

Now STFU!
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Dec 24 2021 02:03PM     link to this

All theyll do is keep voting dumb fuck blue not understanding they are the problem
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Dec 24 2021 03:45PM     link to this

"Typical, nothing but ad hominem attacks from the left, yet again"

@Davis


How many times have you insulted people directly and by calling them libtards?


The migration away from California is likely those who retired, sold their homes in California for way more than what they paid for it, and are going to cheaper states where they can live off of the equity that they made in California.

There is a 200,000 house shortage in Los Angeles alone. Until new homes are built to accommodate the demand, prices will continue to rise.


I believe Los Angeles is now ranked the # 1 city in the world to invest in real estate (in some polls).

If California were undesirable, property values would be decreasing (not increasing) because demand would be dropping. Maybe you guys should be taking some courses in economics and logic. Home prices will eventually pull back a bit because of rising interest rates, but because there is a shortage of homes in LA, LA will bounce back very quickly if it drops at all.

So please, continue to twist facts to suit your political narrative. No one is buying it.








CandyMan71
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Dec 24 2021 06:07PM     link to this

The comparison is not binary, California is not undesirable, but it is much less desirable than historically. People migrating to California are upper income, while those exiting are lower, middle income and without a college degree along with retirees. For the first time in history, there has been a net loss of people in the State and this is not going to change anytime soon.

So what is the implication of all this? Much of this points to California looking like a 3rd world country where there is a small middle class (by California standards) and lots of lower income and a good life for upper class who rely on the underclass with cities riddled with homeless, slums, crime, while upper class isolate themselves behind gated communities or geographically.
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Dec 24 2021 09:38PM     link to this

^ finally, a rational post
Net births + net migration = goose egg approx.
CA lost a seat and was virtually at zero growth, first time ever in history
Prima facie evidence that CA is losing proportionate population.
LA does not have excess demand and you'll find that out soon enough

Polls of out-migration show a mixture of reasons
Interesting that housing price was not at top of the list
Bureaucracy (think swampy red tape) and taxes were

CA has already bifurcated into 2 classes and it will get worse with policies in place
Taxes are highly dependent on a small number of high earners and exhibit high volatility due to large capital gains in some years.

I'm a pragmatist and find no representation in either major party
I just don't understand why we continue to do what doesn't work
Newsome and Garcetti promised to resolve homelessness and under-housing (2 distinctly different problems).
They've done neither and simply continue policies that do not work.period.stop
AFMadness
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Dec 24 2021 11:25PM     link to this

So, three years ago they were right , in predicting about 350,000 leaving.

Thing is, has anyone noticed the 367 thousand that has left ? I haven't.

And I'm sticking around just to piss you off
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GoBallsDeep
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Dec 25 2021 12:14PM     link to this

The latest from the US Census Bureau:

US Population growth is at its lowest rate since the nation's founding.
.1%, that's point 1% or about 392,665 added from 7/20 to 7/21
Total now stands at 331.8mil

Delayed pregnancies & curtailed immigration
And, let's not forget about 800,000 deaths (not sure how much of that is excess given that about 1.1mil die every year anyway)
Fertility rate of 1.6

The takeaway?
The whole country shows no pop growth, just reshuffling from CA to other states along with the other top 9 states losing pop to other states. Without 2m legal immigrants per year coming in, we are fucked in the long run as productivity CANNOT make up for a declining pop. This will effect demand for housing and all other consumer goods as time goes on.......and let's not forget anthropomorphic climate change.

As an aside, you CANNOT cut your way to nirvana vis a vis greenhouse gases. What's in the system is there for the long term and there's no way that the big polluters China/India will be actually slowing much less cutting their emissions. CA leading the way on this issue for 15 years has achieved absolutely nothing in terms of impact on climate change, other than to beggar the State and have disparate impact on the poor/middle class.

In comparison to the US:
University of Wisconsin estimates China's 2020 pop at 1.28B NOT 1.41B
Pop has been declining since 2018 with a fertility rate of 1.3 born per woman in 2020
Almost half the replacement rate of 2.1
China is in deep shit, expect more saber rattling as Xi tries to figure out how to keep them happy

China pop projected to be cut by 40% over the next 50 years, they're even more fucked than we are.

Merry XMAS!
DavisM1
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Dec 25 2021 01:44PM     link to this

@MA-Once again..you are wrong. You think it’s “retired old folks leaving” just lmao. California is losing it's middle class. Californis middle class are moving to red states were costs are lower and opportunities are greater.

California has the wealthy elites who live along the coast and then a great many poor Californians. Not everyone can be a multi millionaire Even some of the wealthy are leaving California too as is being seen. I live in a wealthy area and I've seen several wealthy Californians move to my area of Florida. None of them were asians. All were concerned with California's government, high crime problems, very high taxes,
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Hope California figures out a way to lower their crime levels. The pictures coming out of parts of California are not showing an area that is looking good. Saw this latest article on California crime this morning.

"Brazen crime, open drug use and trashed streets have some residents of tolerant San Francisco say they’ve had enough"
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Dec 25 2021 01:49PM     link to this

That is San Francisco.

Parts of the Bay Area are experiencing a boom, especially around the suburbs. I have a few upcoming real estate deals up there for 2022 with people who are moving into California.
DavisM1
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Dec 25 2021 02:03PM     link to this

The Bay Area?? Lol. Thank you for proving my point. California is only going to increasingly resemble 3'rd world countries, where everyone is either dirt poor or wealthy and elite.

Crime is skyrocketing, & families are leaving.being replaced with illegals

Sad to see this about LA and the lawlessness happening there.

LAPD union leader urges visitors to avoid their fair city..

“LAPD Detective Jamie McBride recently told media, “My advice to anybody considering coming to Los Angeles is ‘Don’t,’ he said. “We can’t guarantee your safety. It is really, really out of control […] It’s like that movie ‘Purge’ [sic]. Instead of 24 hours to commit your crime, these bad people have 365 days to commit whatever they want.”


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Dec 25 2021 02:09PM     link to this

"China claims to be on board with decarbonization. Let’s hope they’re serious for our sake and the sake of future generations."

This must be part of that "hopey-changey" thing, amirite?
What China says and what they do have been, and always will be, completely different.
But, you keep hoping!

China continues to open new coal-fired plants every week.
India didn't even show up at the big whoop in Scotland, not to mention that Garcetti's recent comments about bringing human rights to India went over like a lead balloon.

So, here's the thing.
There's what has already been put into the system, that's on the US.
And, there are no go-backs on that, as it doesn't go away and cannot be removed except by methods that are currently unfeasible but being tested.
Then, there's what's being added as of now.

That's NOT on the US, we are the ONLY country that has had a significant decline in greenhouse gas emissions and most of that has come from fracking and the changeover from coal to natural gas................but hey, why let facts and data get in the way of a good emotional argument.

Of course, the idiots in Sacramento want to now EXCLUDE natural gas hookups from new homes, at the same time that they exclude nuclear........which CA doesn't count as a "renewable" electricity source...........just as they also exclude hydroelectric, only in fucking CA, lol. That makes CA THE LARGEST buyer of interstate electricity in the nation because we just keep hoping that a few solar panels and some windmills will make it all work..........fucking stupid

By the way Gloom Guy, your evidence is typically considered "anecdotal", far from conclusive.
Just watch as the continued exodus plays out.

DavisM1
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Dec 25 2021 02:22PM     link to this

Keep hoping while continuing to vote in the problem over & over again

But hey..you people want it both ways..


" tax the rich!!!"

" we have more billionaires per capita herp derp"

GoBallsDeep
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Dec 25 2021 02:24PM     link to this

CA's idea of leading is to make a product/service more expensive IN the State( I guess to drive poor people out of the State), and buy what they need from other States that aren't stupid fucking utopians on a mission to signal their virtue to the world?

The coastal elite are just fine with crushing everybody in the Central Valley as they destroy their jobs.
Ironically, most of their wealth is built on products/services that INCREASE the need for energy in some fashion.........it just needs to be the "right" kind of energy that they approve of, at least within state lines. If not, then we'll just buy it from those other guys producing it from coal, natural gas and nuke plants.

Apparently, Progs are OK with that.

This is where Biden is a moron also.
He shut down the Keystone Pipeline, at great cost to the US, while approving the Nord Stream pipeline benefiting Russia........WTF is that?
Is it like that covid thing when eating, the pollution just knows to stay on the right side of the boarder?

When are you dumb fucks gonna stop being partisan and just call a spade spade?

GoBallsDeep
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Dec 25 2021 02:26PM     link to this

"Hope doesn’t cost a thing."

Wow, that is a very stupid comment.
You can do better, I think.

Hope doesn't actually produce anything either, especially when it's a false one.

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Dec 25 2021 02:28PM     link to this

Oh, and fuck you Siri, lol
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GoBallsDeep
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Dec 25 2021 02:30PM     link to this

Seems like a slow day for some reason so...........
It's quadruple stack time!
You know, just so we can get that post count up there.
Spanner, admit it, you thought I was serious about post count in that previous blog, didn't you?

GoBallsDeep
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Dec 25 2021 02:32PM     link to this

Just 19 more and I'll qualify for the JustHavingFun1 fan club!
Gotta run, Santa just stopped by with 2 lovelies from his harem.
He promised me the ladies would give me a blowie for Xmas!

DavisM1
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Dec 25 2021 03:11PM     link to this

The new Lib mentality..

Logic & reason =Anger.

Lol, Spammer, you are fukin hilarious..






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Dec 25 2021 03:58PM     link to this

IMO California's income and sales taxes suck because of our incredibly regressive property tax, which has all sorts of negative effects, from warping the housing market creating problems funding schools. Texas is better if you don't own a home, but if you own a home you're paying 1.8% annually in property tax and it's getting reassessed every year. Supposedly the 2022 reassessment is going to increase people's property tax bills by 10-15%. California is at 1% and the reassessment is capped at a rate way below inflation, and that tax basis carries over to your heirs if you pass it down after you die. Now, this sucks if you buy an overpriced home in today's market, because 1% of a lot is still a lot, but part of the reason the housing market is so warped is because people with inherited properties have zero incentive to sell because of their tax basis.

Wacko abortion policies aside, I think Texas is a pretty good place to live - weather's decent, diverse industries available, and plenty of access to nice things. And the tax bill is probably lower there. If it weren't for the abortion policies, I'd consider moving out. But it's not all sunshine there financially, especially if you own a house.
DavisM1
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Dec 25 2021 03:58PM     link to this

Lol..dude you are creepy AF.

DavisM1
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Dec 25 2021 04:01PM     link to this

Also..can you link where I mentioned “pizzagate”

Wtf are you on??


Cot Damn you are fukin weird dude

rakuen.now
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Dec 25 2021 04:23PM     link to this

This is a BIG winner to me. Less backwards people in California means:

- Less pollution
- Less Covid spread
- Less NIMBYism
- Higher property values
- Less school shootings
- Less people who think the way to get rid of crime is to profile and harass people on the streets, massage parlors, hotel customers, etc.
- Less people getting in the way of scientific research (e.g. stem cell, social, etc.)
- Less people harassing our educators and hospitals over masks

Let those people go to Florida. Best Christmas present I could've wished for.
DavisM1
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Dec 25 2021 04:38PM     link to this

Florida literally has less all of those things mentioned yet is a Red State..while you Dems have had control for years & years..

Even during Covid despiser all the mandates, CA was getting chucked by Florida

Remember when the media was pushing the “if we all wore masks we could save 50,000 lives” line, it bears repeating that the 14-day avg of new deaths went up 448% in California since Florida removed mask enforcement on 9/25. Florida is up 59%


Your Covid Police patrol is never going to end, if you don’t see that by now, not much hope for you.
Waterdisport22
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Dec 25 2021 04:40PM     link to this

@David....

"2 weeks to flatten the curve..."
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Dec 25 2021 04:43PM     link to this

Haha..right..!

Florida has far fewer hospitalized patients with/from COVID than California. The lefts narrative is falling apart so all they can do is scream “COVID BAD” repeatedly until people stop paying attention to their grift after they cry wolf too many times. Their relevance relies on panic.

I will never understand the cognitive dissonance required from charlatans like the lefties here to push things like lockdowns and masks, while also spreading weak fear porn about how bad things are in California which has done absolutely everything he possibly could want
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Dec 25 2021 04:45PM     link to this

I’ll do a Spammer for once..
DavisM1
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Dec 25 2021 04:45PM     link to this

And close
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Dec 25 2021 04:46PM     link to this

This one out.


Cheers
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