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Above study was released in December 2021....
This article came out in November.
This article is a continuation of my thinking about vaccinated people having unusual amount, and unusual nature, of health problems. It is not a sound bite about “Joe Brandon” and is kind of long and thorough and some may find it boring. I wrote it mostly to provide fodder for other people who want to write about such things.
Everything in my article points to Covid vaccines somehow ruining general, innate immunity.
You can read it for yourself.....its coming out folks....
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It’s really sad to see a member spend so much time in front of his computer, tablet or phone that he has three active blogs here on Hx. Dude you really need to get a life!
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Interpreting the data as the vaccines are danger to the vaxxed is not very scientific.
Negative efficacy has to do with different behavior or exposure patterns in the vaccinated group vs. unvaccinated, not the vaccine. So say the authors of the study you site.
It's not a danger to the vaccinated that the boosters go down to 50% efficacy in 10 weeks due to Omicron. Rather, it means that the vaccines aren't very good at preventing infections anymore.
They were good for the Wuhan and Alpha variants. They were getting high efficacy values. (Also, not enough time passed to see the waning effect).
Not nearly as good for Delta, and then we observed the waning effect.
Now they are almost ineffective against infections with Omicron.
The good news, that the OP didn't present, because he's an unscientific anti-vaxxer and won't give you a fair assessment -- both the good and bad -- is that these vaccines are still excellent at preventing hospitalizations and deaths. Efficacy against severe disease is in the 90% with the booster.
So you're going to get sick, but you are unlikely to get very very sick.
Maybe that's all we can ask for at this time.
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Night rider share with me your scholar work
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GET A LIFE WATERDOUCHE!!!!!
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I'm sorry for his family...hope he is getting help and his kids are growing up OK.
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He's just a waste of sperm.
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Xtra
Did your mom have any kids that lived?
I'm guessing no
Have an opinion
Get a clue
Stop hating
Be original
Tell yo mama you're an idiot
Apologize to her
Let the man blog
Sheeeeesh!
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-vax-podcaster-reportedly-contracted-144011951.html
Your next.
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So according to Waterdisport22's logic, all medicine must work IMMEDIATELY or they aren't considered medicine? lol!!!
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I don't live in Denmark so who fucking cares.
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Just wow. Was your former handle DV8D?
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We need more exposure of inhibitors and vaccines being tested that do better to prevent infection. See link.
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^Maybe the right wingers can actually champion something like this that isn't mainstream and THAT ACTUALLY WORKS!!!!
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OP have you tried injecting disinfectant?
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@NR....I do agree with you. Something that actually works....INHIBITORS...
You see....Pfizer & Merck are coming out with their pill....inhibitor....
Ohhh wait we already have one and it is also made by Merck....but off patent and is cheap....see chart.
Its called IVERMECTIN.
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Ivermectin remains highly uncertain, as it failed to demonstrate an effect in the most important randomized clinical trials.
Your graph shows correlation, not causation. The results could easily be explained by more likely alternative hypotheses that these poorer countries vastly undercounted cases, hospitalizations, and deaths, and have younger populations with fewer preexisting conditions and less obesity.
We do need more large trials on ivermectin. It’s disappointing that this hasn’t happened.
I’m also just as skeptical about the new drug Merck is putting out, which had a failed trial (the second half of its big trial). Also skeptical about Remdesivir and certainly hydroxychloroquine.
The new drug Pfizer is putting out, Paxlovid, which is highly promising. Passed large trials with flying colors with a reduction in hospitalizations or deaths by 89% in people without immunity to SARS-2, but the current administration has dropped the ball in accelerating its deployment.
And of course there are monoclonal antibodies, but Omicron has made some of them obsolete, and supplies are low now.
It would be great if we had proven cheap drugs that are plentiful.
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I’m not against people using Ivermectin. In the right amount, it’s safe. Go ahead.
I’m concerned however that people will substitute its use for proven treatments like monoclonal antibodies and the vaccines.
If you want to use it, use it in addition to the proven treatments.
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Sorry NR my doctor uses it herself......
There is AMPLE evidence including trials showing that and HCQ with zinc and Vit D with Z pack are great....along with Monoclonal Antibodies...
So tell me NR.....why to this day are there not protocols Dr's can look to to use these?
Is it b/c Pfizer's and Mercks Ivermectin clone is not out yet?
We have been through this now to 2 years....the evidence is clear.
The only thing I can think of is the CDC+ others in some perverse reason wants people to die. What else can one conclude...& why? Power....maybe. They are still not giving it up even over Omicron...which is just a sniffle...cough cough.
Don't believe me. Tell me HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM OMICRON? Waiting.....
And Gov's of New York. Penn, New Jersey, Mich & Calif sent sick elderly covid BACK INTO NURSING HOMES. By edict.
There are some very sinister aspects to this FLU scamdemic.
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“The only thing I can think of is the CDC+ others in some perverse reason wants people to die.”
When you say things like that, you lose the argument because that clearly is not a statement based on reason and data but pure emotion, hatred, and anger
We need rational thinking when dealing with this pandemic, not irrationality.
It may be hard to do that in the middle of things, but that’s what we need.
I can’t argue with someone who can’t form an argument based on reason.
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I’ll make your argument for you:
We have vaccines that are safe and work well against hospitalizations and deaths for the vulnerable (people with preexisting conditions, obesity, and old age). We have monoclonal antibodies that reduce the risk of severe disease for the vulnerable. Pretty soon we will have Pfizer’s Paxlovid that will also significantly reduce risk of severe disease for the vulnerable. The vulnerable are well protected against severe disease and death. It’s time to stop counting cases, time to stop mandating treatments for the rest of us, and time to stop restricting our lives.
I think that’s a powerful and reasonable argument.
We could try that and see how things (hospitalizations, deaths, disability from COVID) go.
While maybe this strategy is good enough, maybe it is not. We will soon see. If not, my own personal opinion is the best strategy to reduce hospitalizations, death, and disability, is to reduce frequency and amplitude of waves. I’m not saying zero COVID or eradication, which is not realistic. And the way to do what I think is possible is to vaccinate the world with a vaccine that has enough efficacy against infection.
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No NR the flu shots are not safe...they are NOT vaccines.
My other blog detailed over 100k deaths from the jab. YOU lost that argument.
Over 100k deaths are OK for you? Guess so.
If the jab was so safe then why give Pfizer & Moderna & JnJ a free get out of jail card?
Meaning they can NOT be sued over this.
You can not argue with me b/c the facts are NOT on your side.....
Sorry NR you sir are wrong.
Wait for my next blog on the PCR test......
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"There are some very sinister aspects to this FLU scamdemic."
See link
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New VAERS Report Admits COVID Vaccine Is The Deadliest Ever.
A shocking new graph of VAERS information reveals the true scale of death being brought on by the covid vaccine.
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According to many virologists, once you get covid, you have a natural immunity.
But the govt doesn't seem to want to acknowledge this fact.
They also don't talk much about therapeutics.
I had covid, so I should have natural immunity, but our government doesn't
seem to care. As another doctor has explained, people should be tested
for immunity, not just told to take the vaccine.
And what does being tested prove? You can still get and transmit covid.
These government policies are a joke.
After all homeless and illegals are not forced to get the vaccine,
and nor did they social distance or wear masks.
Oh yeah, members of congress are exempt from taking the vaccine.
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The VAERS "screenshot" was literally fake news, as fact-checked by multiple outlets and it's no where on the VAERS website. People don't fact check banned.com videos?
All immunity is natural, whether from the actual disease or from vaccine-induced. The anti-bodies from both are literally made by one's own body.
Being tested just means it gives you a chance to STAY-AWAY from people, so you don't spread it and end this war-on-COVID faster. I mean, "...Love thy neighbor" (Matthew 19:16–19) no?
Can't comment much about the homeless and illegals are not forced to get the vaccine. Can't say much about the former, but the latter group they're implicitly required if they want to access bars, restaurants, theaters, games, concerts, and etc. Though why quibble with those that are beneath oneself? /s
Members of Congress are exempt because of the Constitution not because of Biden. Separations of Powers and all...and GOP congressional members.
Anyways... debate is great. Muting and blocking are dumb. Just try making intelligent facts rather than mud-slinging. I'm out. 🎤
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"My other blog detailed over 100k deaths from the jab."
I read the paper on which this analysis was based and am skeptical of their statistical methods they used to come to this conclusion.
The correlations they used to correlate vaccine usage to death rates are very, very small. That raises a red flag. A small Pearson correlation coefficient can overestimate the statistical significance calculated with the standard formula when the data veers away from being distributed normally. They should have confirmed their results using permutation tests, which are more accurate and more stringent. It's not certain at all that their results would still have reached statistical significance then.
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"I had covid, so I should have natural immunity, but our government doesn't
seem to care."
We still don't know enough about natural immunity. It's much more complex than you think. The evidence suggests large variability in terms of how much immunity one actually gets from infection, and we still don't know how long it lasts.
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Why are people trying to convince others NOT to vaccinate..? Why are people knowingly using false or misleading statements to distrust Government, doctors and science..? Why would ANYONE spread false or slanted information that could result in death..? This is a calculated, premeditated, attempt to harm others. This is not an expression of opinion. Its all out disinformation with purpose.
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^ whatever 
If you got it and died
Then your genetic bouillabaisse was selected to be de-selected by Mother Nature
Maybe there's a reason why
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"Why are people trying to convince others NOT to vaccinate..? Why are people knowingly using false or misleading statements to distrust Government, doctors and science..? Why would ANYONE spread false or slanted information that could result in death..? This is a calculated, premeditated, attempt to harm others. This is not an expression of opinion. Its all out disinformation with purpose."
People knowingly mis-state and lie all over the place... Not just on this subject ... Russia Collusion... Stolen elections.... Vast right wing conspiracies.... Pizza Gate.
Are you equally curious about those misleading stories and statements or do the ones that further your political point of view true and the other fallacious? just asking Im genuinely curious as to how one who so curious on one matter chooses to be incurious on others.
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Having watched mbc post for a while now
You do not want to delve into his little kettle of crazy
Seriously, the guy is tuned to radio station KRZY 24/7/365
He makes AOC sound lIke Mitch McConnell
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How about mandating the same rules apply to everyone. Not the do as we say not as we do BS. Make everyone test or nobody test. Until we can verify who's walking around with it, there no telling. If the vaccinated can still contract and spread, regardless of the percentage or likelyhood. We're just pissing in the wind hoping not to spray it on anyone.
What sense does it make to say, the jabbed can dine indoors and spread to one another, but it's not ok for the non jabbed? Can someone please explain that circlejerk? Do the powers that government just enjoy making up shit?
Mask mandates alone. Masks don't work, masks work, wear 2 masks, don't bother with cloth masks. I mean come on. If the virus travels in vapor, then anyone who wears glasses know the masks don't stop shit. Glasses are not stop fogged up. Especially the way most everyone wears them. And nobody's wearing/changing out an N95 multiple times per day. And that ones still not stopping virus molecules.
How about some truth in reporting from our news media. We all hear the huge numbers in cases . Are we still experiencing the deaths? Does the case numbers even matter? No! Are the hospitalized covid patients dying? Or just coming to the ER because doctors are handicapped by the corporations that they're subcontracted to? How many doctors are left that are not under a group type situation?
The whole thing is a huge cluster F
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I know what I believe in. Democracy, freedom of speech, organized labor, a clean and safe environment. I know what is true. Science, vaccines are effective, the sun orbits the sun and trump lost the 2020 election.There was no election fraud. Anyone who says otherwise is a fucking liar.
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I know what I believe in. Democracy, freedom of speech, organized labor, a clean and safe environment. I know what is true. Science, vaccines are effective, the sun orbits the sun and trump lost the 2020 election.There was no election fraud. Anyone who says otherwise is a fucking liar.
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I didn't ask what you believed in I asked what you were curious about. The examples I provided were a mix bag of left and right events or concerns and in your reply you stated what you believed... not what you question.
On the subject you brought up Election Fraud ... Im with Tim Pool on this and believe the efforts by Zuck and other D activist orgs definitely spiked voter turnout in large metropolitan areas to the point that the Ds won. They won by changing/or interperpreting the rules through paths they control and in some cases that is legally questionable but the count is the count. That isn't what I asked about and I think you know that.
What about stolen elections? Have there been any? Do they only happen when your candidate loses... just curious.
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Why am I not surprised Spanner is reading things in to what I said.... I did not say anything about illegal votes ....I didn't say that I had an issue with boosting voter turnout.... I said something to the effect of "changes and/or interpreting rules" in some cases arguably illegally. That is not saying every rule change was illegal that is saying in some cases government bureaucrats made changes they had no jurisdiction over. SOME.
And if you were being honest in an effort to answer the question it is not about the last election its about stolen elections. Just trying to get the lay of the land with you lump everyone in to a category types.
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Yes when a county commissioner changes what the state legislature made law that is legally questionable .... what do you not understand?
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Correction not county commissioner County registrar. But that won't matter
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