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Possible misstep going after trump in impeachment.
Jan 19 2021 08:23PM more by remo_williams
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Everyone has heard the phrase,

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Who would Dems rather see suffer - one man, or the entire republican party?

I'm would think it's the republicans as a whole, not just one man.

If Nancy P & the Dems really want to hurt the Republicans - why go after trum?

Most on the left want the republicans never to hold office again - right?

The departing president of any party is the leader until the next nominee right?

If the Dem's want to do damage to their opponents, what could be better for them than trump leading the party, which if trump is so corrupt and bad as they say he is - wouldn't he bring more damage to the republican brand than anything they could do? The goal is to destroy their opponent up and down the ticket right?

Just a thought.
      
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Jan 19 2021 10:01PM     link to this

they HATE trump so much...they make mistakes...that's why we are seeing all this hate

interesting to see how mitch is playing this thing...can't be sure he is just trying to hold off Schumer on the whole filibuster thing...BUT you never know with him...he never really liked trump
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Jan 19 2021 10:07PM     link to this

Shhhhh, they would've never thought of this.
Leave Trump politically viable and you fuck the Repubs for a long time
I'm at a loss as to how 74 million vote for him but leave him intact
And he splinters the party

Dems are mostly dumb fuck feelers
So won't get it
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Jan 19 2021 10:25PM     link to this

they were remaking the repup party...the blacks and browns were signing up and liked the direction of the policies and economy...unfortunately, people didn't like his WAY and demeanor...dude made you cringe all the time with simple shit a k-- could understand not to say

he got derailed with some help from china

will be interesting to see if biden follows thru with some of his FIRST-day promises





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Jan 19 2021 10:37PM     link to this

Problem is the collateral damage Trump causes in his wake.

Real people getting hurt and no accountability.

Even the GOP standard bearers are ready to feed Trump to the wolves. Mitch’s parting shot yesterday was a great example of the “flush”.

Damage is done, and you have up and comers who are Trumptards who can more than cause more damage to the GOP after Trump is gone.

Ted Cruz, Marjorie Taylor, and Harley come to mind.
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Jan 19 2021 10:49PM     link to this

we shall see what the plan is with mitch...he is trying to thread a needle...seeing if he can hold off the filibuster change...might have to throw trump to the wolves to do it, and it might be worth it -- IF he can keep some gridlock going

the problem is there is not a lot of time for the DEM party to get all the shit done that would KEEP the power forever....they need those new voters in 8 years when they become legal...they need a few more states with senators...they get that and it's over

so trump might have to take one for the team


OR mitch is a bitch rino ready to roll over...his in-laws have some serious china ties


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Jan 19 2021 10:55PM     link to this

DOUBLE STANDARD EXPOSED: Outraged Leftist Don't Want You To Remember THESE Moments...

Sorry for the sign in.
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Jan 19 2021 11:54PM     link to this

Trump is so innocent. Drained the swamp. Why all the pardons? MAGATs will support the Trump Administration Crime Syndicate no matter what.
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Jan 20 2021 12:23AM     link to this

They’re only opening the door to being able to be impeached when they’re out of office. And since the first impeachment opened up the door that you can be impeached for not even committing a crime, every Democrat or even slightly left leaning person better hope that a Trump supporting majority never gains power again or they can easily take the entire government over and ban any Democrat from ever holding power again.
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Jan 20 2021 02:58AM     link to this

There's an argument to be made to not have the Senate trial. He's gone, and quite honestly it's a tall order for the Dems to find 17 Republicans to convict. The trial could end up making Trump stronger if he wins and looks like a martyr. He's unpopular right now. Let him go and start with your agenda.

The exception would be if during the investigation, they find a lot more damning evidence against him. Then have the trial after Biden's first 100 days.
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Jan 20 2021 07:23AM     link to this

Trump is everything I thought he would be...a ruthless billionaire businessman...people don't like him and that is fine, but I can say that my life got better over the last four years instead of worse as it did under Bush 43 and Obama...those were two inept politicians...every politician is a lying asshole who looks out for himself first. I am always shocked by people who are "Shocked" by Trump's or any other politician's behavior...they are all assholes...that being said, I am glad that he made it uncomfortable for all of those assholes in congress...all of these people talking big and acting tough at the end of four years...not at the beginning...I at least have some respect for the people who spoke out early and were fired or who spoke out after being fired...good for them...Mitch is a pussy and always has been...that's why Harry Reed was able to fuck his first wife over 30 years ago...because he is ultimately a weak hillbillie from Kentucky...he only got some balls when his current wife resigned from his cabinet position...I am so sick of all of these fucking assholes. I was not for the riot at the Capitol in any way, but it sure was fun to see all of those politicians hiding and scared. For the first time in their lives, they were facing actual consequences for their lies and pandering!!
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Jan 20 2021 07:29AM     link to this

One of Trump's final acts in office was to get rid of his ethics pledge to drain the swamp. lol
Doesnt want to hold any of his staff to it. I guess after 4 years of ignoring it...it doesnt really matter at this point. Trump the con man fooled all you magas. He told you he would have Mexico pay for the wall...instead he had Bannon steal from his supporters....you...to pay for the wall...then pardoned him for it when his own justice department was going to prosecute him for it. Now he revokes the drain the swamp promise so his staff are not held to avoiding private industry after serving in the Government. Typical hypocrisy.
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Jan 20 2021 10:04AM     link to this

@NightRider

Trump is unpopular according to the media.

The reality is that 8 weeks ago, he got 75 million votes! He got more black and latino votes than any Republican in 60 years! But for mail in voting, Trump would have won this election going away, and that's a fact not even a liberal can dispute.

Unpopular he is not! If he wants to hold a rally tonight in South Florida, he'd get 30,000 people there in a heartbeat. Biden couldn't attract 30,000 flies to anything, except maybe KamelBalls' crotch.
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Jan 20 2021 10:28AM     link to this

Trump and his insurrectionists proved that fascism can make inroads even in America, long known as the bastion of Democracy. We must now be more vigilant than ever. This is why I believe that Trump and his insurrectionists must be held accountable. Our democracy was almost overthrown. It is that serious.
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Jan 20 2021 10:41AM     link to this

But he is still a loser. And now a has-been.
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Jan 20 2021 10:57AM     link to this

^^^ time will tell....not you.
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Jan 20 2021 11:15AM     link to this

I can’t believe I’m going to say this, but I liked every word that @GBD wrote here:

“Shhhhh, they would've never thought of this.
Leave Trump politically viable and you fuck the Repubs for a long time
I'm at a loss as to how 74 million vote for him but leave him intact
And he splinters the party

Dems are mostly dumb fuck feelers
So won't get it ”

If the Dems and GOP convict Trump in the Senate, that prevents him from running for office in the future and essentially neutralizes much of the damage he can do to the Republicans. If they don’t convict and Trump is allowed to create the Patriot Party, that would splinter the GOP and the Dems will essentially be the only viable political party with significant voter number advantage.

But Dems are “dumb fuck feelers,” as @GBD said. Democrats act on principle, not simply what is good for the party but what is good for the country. @ISOS said that there is much “hate” with Democrats for Trump, but no one was more vile, more selfish, more divisive, and more hateful than Trump. He needs to be punished to the fullest extent of the laws he broke and he needs to be barred from ever running again.

That is the right thing to do even if it isn’t the best thing for the Democrats.


I am looking forward to limiting my viewing of cable news by feeling secure that the dumpster fire shitshow presidency is over and that America will regain its prominence and democracy will be restored. And that the health and safety of Americans will be safeguarded by a president who will take Covid (and science in general) seriously.

It would be nice to focus more on pussy than politics.
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Jan 20 2021 12:32PM     link to this

I am more concerned with the damage he can do to the country so I dont want him in office anywhere. Well maybe Florida....that state couldnt possibly get more screwed up. I also want to point out they dont need to impeach him for him not to hold office again. THey just need a simple majority vote. So expect that to happen.
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Jan 20 2021 02:42PM     link to this

@Mildly,

You said: "America will regain its prominence and democracy will be restored..."

Well isn't that a fucking joke. You clueless morons rammed in a senile old coot who doesn't know where he is half the time, and an angry, nasty socialist as VP to replace him. Are you out of your fucking minds?

The reality is that you didn't pick Biden. He is unavailable. But they propped him up like Weekend at Bernie's so they could install who they really wanted -- Susan Rice is your shadow President. KamelBalls is over running the Senate and being the tiebreaker...Rice, an Obama loyalist, was handpicked by that Nazi George Soros. And there you have it.

You allowed George Soros to pick your President. Congratulations when everything turns to shit sooner rather than later. That's what Soros has wanted from the beginning!
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Jan 20 2021 02:48PM     link to this

To all of the Trump haters...those of you who are still showing signs of Trump Derrangement Syndrome...hey...you won the election. Most people celebrate and move on...especially when you have both houses of congress...You libtards however, are angry and looking for payback around every corner..I have been a registered independent for nearly20 years as Igot fed up with both sides acting like dog shit. Ok...Libes...Dems...you are in charge of everything-show us how it's done. You better run this country to perfection. Make the economy perfect, foreign relations perfect, social security and medicare perfect, drug prices and healthcare perfect. The one thing will be sad and happy at the same time...and that is continuing to watch an old man losing his mental faculties. Sad that it will continue, but it will make for some great tv moments...again, make this country perfect...To quote judge Smails from Caddyshack..."Well, were waiting"...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQFxmAdyKcg
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Jan 20 2021 03:11PM     link to this

lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!

you libs control everything and Trump is no longer in office and you still talk about Trump!!!!!!!!!!!

you guys are like stalkers!!!!!!!(this may be closer to the truth than most care to admit)

maybe you guys should join the Trump fan club.

Love and hate are opposite sides of the same coin after all
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Jan 20 2021 03:12PM     link to this

Did I mention to all of the Trump haters...that he got THREE supreme court justices? You guys are screwed for 30 years minimum!!!!!!!!!
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Jan 20 2021 03:23PM     link to this

Preach untiy! Stop having TDS! In case you missed it Trump and at least half a dozen staff members led an insurrection against the United States. Lets investigate, prosecute where necessary, and let the courts decide. The TDS people are the ones posting all the election fraud youtube propaganda and want to investigate Hillary an 11th time for her "missing" emails just so she can be cleared again.

Get out of here with that....you better run the country perfect because you dare criticize the conservative! That guy ignored the pandemic that has killed more Americans than wars killed US soldiers in all wars since the civil war, buddied up to dictators and enemies, fooked over our allies, promoted racism, stole from taxpayers, used foreign powers to try to win elections 3 times....but democrats need to be perfect. I got news for you. Biden is going to make some mistakes. But it wont be on the level of...Covid is a hoax, dont bother wearing a mask, it will magically disappear.

It's like a pitcher is responsible for the runners on base when he leaves the game. We will have 100,000 more deaths from covid thanks to Trump's idiotic handling of it just from people currently infected now. His idiot followers will continue to spread it because now wearing a mask is a question of freedumb.
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Jan 20 2021 03:27PM     link to this

Trump can watch the Avengers on TV and you guys will be telling us how he saved us from Thanos. Trump didnt give us 3 conservative justices. That was Mitch. He is the one that made up that new BS rule about Obama doesnt get to pick three....then he broke his own rule to light speed the third one in. Hypocrites. Trump was just shown a piece of paper with names and threw a dart at it. Mitch did all the work.
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Jan 20 2021 03:47PM     link to this

No, Harry Reid gave us 3 judges when he pulled his "Nuclear Option" bullshit out of his ass 10 years ago...he thought the Dems would be in control for 100 years...this came back to bite him in the ass and the Dems hate him for it!!!!!!
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Jan 20 2021 04:01PM     link to this

@ yellowB2

“clueless morons”?

That is funny. I can assure you that you’re closer in intelligence to a Golden Retriever than you are to me.

Delusional idiots like you freely espouse conspiracy theories that you are fed rather than using any logic or common sense.

And yes, the Democrats now control the Presidency, the House, and Senate, but there is a lot of work to reverse the damage Trump has done. It will take some time.
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Jan 20 2021 04:53PM     link to this

President Joe Beijing Biden preached unityin his inauguration speech today, that he wasgoing to be a president for ALL Americans...then he walked into the white house and undid every single executive order by Trump...so much for unity...let the games begin!!!!!!!!!!
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Jan 20 2021 05:29PM     link to this

The easy out for republican senators is to just not show up on the day of the impeachment vote.
2/3 of senators present to convict.
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Jan 20 2021 08:26PM     link to this

After 4 years of the most filthy rhetoric from Dumbocrats, they think they won the battle and call for unity?

WTF?
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Jan 20 2021 08:29PM     link to this

Filthy rhetoric?

Have you heard Trump's insults during his rallies?

WTF have you been?

No.

while I applaud those who want to bring unity to the nation, I'm one of those who would flush the trash down the toilet.
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Jan 20 2021 08:48PM     link to this

I like the weekend at Bernies reference ... pretty much sums it up.

And yeah... Soros bought off anyone and everyone needed over the past two months so today could happen.

So Joe signed a bunch of executive orders today that undo things that were good for America but not any more.

Joe killed jobs today and got us back into deals that has the US shipping money overseas .

What will do next week... maybe start flying money into Tehran airport because the left cant stand to see peace in the middle east and we have to allow Iran to have a bomb?...
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Jan 20 2021 09:07PM     link to this

It's nice having a president who is a responsible adult with integrity and governing experience rather than a narcissistic celebrity with no governing experience trying to wing the presidency.

Trump should be held accountable for inciting a bunch of feebleminded fools with misinformation. A massive attack on our democracy occurred thanks to Trump's words and actions.
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Jan 20 2021 09:43PM     link to this

You were going along pretty well for a moment
Then this stupid came out.

"Democrats act on principle, not simply what is good for the party but what is good for the country."


The reality is that most Dems and Reps do this, you imply that only Dems do.
It's those folks on the edges that are all fucked up.

Allow me to point out it was Goldwater and Rhodes that told Nixon he was done & needed to resign.
It was Barr, McConnell and 50 states full of Rep party officials plus a pile of Trump appointed judges that told him he was toast......they did so for the good of the country. Al Gore pulled a "Trump" but eventually gracefully conceded for the good of the country.

Progressives and right wing nuts are your dangerous treasonists, Dems and Reps are ok by me.

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Jan 20 2021 09:47PM     link to this

Rumor is that McConnell called Biden and said "tell Nancy to impeach the fucking asshole and we will convict him in the Senate". Trump was told this on Saturday which is why he didn't pardon himself or his accomplices since it would have been an admission of guilt.

Will impeachment and a Senate trial make Trump a martyr? I don't think the Dems or a sizeable chunk of Republicans give a fuck. The deplorables (Trumps real base) are sticking with Trump no matter what and Trump lost the remainder of the Republicans and independents when he urged the Storm Troopers and other fascists to seize the Capitol. For those folks, Trump has been conveyed to the dustbin of history. So, impeaching Trump wouldn't change the political landscape at all. It just comes down to whether you really want to hold him accountable.





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Jan 20 2021 10:14PM     link to this

^^ see what I mean?
Dumb


That having been said, Trump is narcissistic enough to not get that he lost a lot of people and may start a Patriot Party anyway a la T. Roosevelt's Bull Moose party or Perot pulling enough to sink old man Bush.

Progressives are a retaliatory group that preaches tolerance but practices scorched earth revenge
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Jan 21 2021 10:12AM     link to this

He should be held accountable. He should never be allowed to run for office again. This would be the result of impeachment. I also understand there may be other measures like censure that could bar him from running again. No one can incite an insurrection against our fragile democracy and get away with it
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Jan 21 2021 10:21AM     link to this

There needs to be consequences for his actions. Impeach and prevent him from running again.

Its a crazy cult. Do not want to risk them taking over this country again.

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Jan 21 2021 10:26AM     link to this

"Progressives are a retaliatory group that preaches tolerance but practices scorched earth revenge"

In what world do you live in?

When libs lost an election, they marched down streets with pink hats in protest.

When conservatives lost an election, they stormed into the capitol wanting to take down democracy and install a dictator.

What side practices scorched earth tactics?
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Jan 21 2021 01:40PM     link to this

It's not about hurting the Republicans.

***Trump (and others) promoted a lie they knew was a lie and told believers to 'stop the steal'.
***People died and our government was materially stopped (temporarily) from its function.
***The VP, Speaker and Senate Majority Leader were in danger of death.
***Trump did nothing to help save the government until his own aides practically held him down and made him call in the Guard.

Somebody has to be held responsible for this shit, so Trump is it, as the head liar and inciter.

That is what the impeachment is about.


A hopeful side bonus is getting him barred from ever running again.

Putting Trump in the rear view mirror will probably make the GOP a healthier party, actually. Trump is toxic to everybody who has the slightest desire to express their own opinions, including his own VP.
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