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Locked. No further comments permitted.Con - gress pushing for new 'Domestic terror laws'
Jan 24 2021 01:43PM more by Atticus_Finch
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The breach at the capital's really got the idiots in con-gress freaked. So much so they're going to attempt to take more Constitutional rights away.

'Governing' from a place of fear is never a way to actually govern a country.

Hopefully there are more people like Tulsi Gabbard in con-gress then like shiff.





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Night-Rider
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Jan 24 2021 02:50PM     link to this

Something needs to be done to prevent episodes like the Capitol insurrection and these repetitive riots by Antifa and criminal elements of BLM.
Atticus_Finch
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Jan 24 2021 03:16PM     link to this

^Bullshit!

The fbi isn't crying for new legislation. Why? Cause there are already enough laws on the books.

Give your rights away if you want but leave the rest of us alone.

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Jan 24 2021 03:18PM     link to this

Point them at each other?

There is a strong need for deescalation in the country, as some people are on hair triggers for violent reaction.

Some are based on fact and a history of oppression, some are based on lies they keep telling themselves.
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Jan 24 2021 03:47PM     link to this

Didn’t say we needed new legislation necessarily, but we need to do something different. These acts of violence have been going on for way too long.
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Jan 24 2021 04:53PM     link to this

We cant move forward with unifying as a republic if political violence is normalized and our elected officials wont condemn these actions.
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Jan 24 2021 04:57PM     link to this

I think it’s more about politics than reality when the right demands that the Democrats go out of their way time and time again to condemn Antifa and criminal elements of BLM.
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Jan 24 2021 05:37PM     link to this

^Give me a break!
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Jan 24 2021 06:13PM     link to this

The polar opposite of condemnation is to sanctify the action.
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Jan 24 2021 07:45PM     link to this

@Knight rider, funny how no one on the left was calling for new legislation and stripping the way of rights when antifa and blm were busy burning down cities. those were just peaceful protest

some guy walks thru the open door of the capital building dressed like a bison calling himself a shaman. Why that is the worst terrorist attack ever.

what happened on 01/06/2021 dwarves what was done on 12/7/1941 or what happened on 09/11/2001.

Congress was scared of US citizens gasp!!!!!!!!

give me a break!!!!!!!!!!

the fact that congress is calling for new legislation just tells me what we already know. Those idiots in congress regardless on the left or the right do not represent you!!!!!!!

IF they did represent you, they would be interested to know why there were so many people gathered on the capitol building and would be concerned with there needs and wants.


But nope we are not going to do that, THATS JUST DUMB!!!!!

INSTEAD WE WILL JUST, LABEL THEM ALL TERRORIST!!!!!!

WE NEED NEW LAWS TO PUT THE RABBLE IN THERE PLACE!!!!!!!!!

what a joke!!
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Jan 24 2021 08:08PM     link to this

We have an abundance of anti terror laws on books already. No need for another War on Terror.
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Jan 24 2021 10:46PM     link to this

^ finally someone who gets it, lol
Of course, this was allowed to happen
How else to get DJT banned for good
This was way better planned than Russian collusion
That's cause both parties were in on it, lol
Good riddance, I say
But don't think this was a mistake

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Jan 25 2021 01:53AM     link to this

the thing is thou banning DJT for good is not constitutional

you can only impeach someone in the office


what they are doing is unconstitutional

but, that has never stopped a democrat from passing laws thou!!!!!!!!!

constitution only matters when it favors the left, if it doesn't then its just ignored
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Jan 25 2021 02:41AM     link to this

There is precedent for impeaching and holding a trial for someone who has left office. See link.
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Jan 25 2021 06:56AM     link to this

@knight rider

really!!!!! Bloomberg????

oh like this going to be fair and objective.

It's clear what this is really about there impeaching because they want to make it so he cannot run again for president.

That's the motive behind it.

you can have fbi investigations and panels and hearings to happen in regards to what happened on 01/06, but you cannot investigate the allegations of voter fraud and irregularities that took place during the elections.

The media is now calling everyone who went to that rally on 01/06, but antifa and BLM can terrorize burn down buildings and destroy businesses and there just peaceful protestors.

IF you listened to what the Orangeman said on 01/06 he said nothing that incited violence.

Yet there have been instances where Democrats have done just that. Maxine Waters and her call for violence against republicans. Nancy Pelosi did this too. Eric Swalwell threatened to nuke gun owners who resisted to have there guns taken away.

Both the Biden campaign and Kamala Harris advocated for and bailed out rioters in Minneapolis. THey aided and abetted terrorist.

But all of that is okay because its from the left.

Nothing to see there...


This is why I say civil war is coming... there is nothing else. Dialog in the eyes of the right is rapidly becoming meaningless.

Those in government do not have your interest they serve themselves and the elite..

by supporting these people you are just being a useful idiot
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Jan 25 2021 09:16AM     link to this

They are planning on outlawing the opposition.

If you question election results and procedures, you are a traitor and insurrectionist.

Fuck that. Let them come for or guns and see how badly that works out!
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Jan 25 2021 09:34AM     link to this

There is precedent for impeaching and holding a trial for someone who has left office. See link.

But the most recent incident for precedent is Richard Nixon. He resigned and the impeachment didn't continue.
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Jan 25 2021 09:36AM     link to this

waterboard all people doing damage anywhere this year...see how they were funded and organized...investigate it.

funny to hear the viking dude say he was following what trump said...everyone is coming out of the woodwork now to save career or not wanting to go to jail - all you have to do is blame trump and things will get better

they handle the summer riots differently...the capitol building invasion doesn't happen






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Jan 25 2021 09:50AM     link to this

Now the 'leaders' in con-gress are considering keeping a 'military presence' in DC after the inauguration?!?

SOB, do these people want a civil war? Are they so afraid of 'the people' and keeping power that they're willing to militarize the capital?

These people are idiots! They act like this is a banana republic or tin pot country and they're the dictator being overthrown and trying to keep power.

They do this and they're just asking for trouble.




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Jan 25 2021 09:52AM     link to this

tulsi is gaining some credibility

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Jan 25 2021 09:52AM     link to this

Yeah, but it fits the narrative they're spewing.
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Jan 25 2021 10:08AM     link to this

@Insearchofstarfish, Tulsi is also kind of Hott!!!!!!!
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Jan 25 2021 10:24AM     link to this

@ISOS If Tulsi had made it to the finish line I'd seriously have had to vote dem, which I haven't done in years.

The main problem is that the 'old guard' dems like hrc and the dnc can't stand her and neither can the main stream media.

She's not a radical leftist but a centrist, is willing to have a dialogue with just about anyone and is against the military - industrial complex.

Put that all together and she's every thing the dems hate, even though she's one of the best they have.

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Jan 25 2021 10:28AM     link to this

she has big tree trunks for legs

heard some stupid shit out of her mouth...maybe next election if she becomes a conservative and makes solid decisions

Atticus_Finch
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Jan 25 2021 10:50AM     link to this

^Well she's the only one, other than DJT, that has said we need to stop policing the world, bring our military home and use that money here to rebuild our infrastructure etc.

I also loved the way she tore harris apart, so much so that after that debate harris dropped out of the race.



Watching harris's face is fucking priceless!

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^The only decocrap that has some policies I actually like.
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Jan 26 2021 08:11AM     link to this

oh boy

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Jan 26 2021 03:00PM     link to this

You know whats crazy?

10 years ago if someone contested the idea that riots are bad for just about everyone no would argue that point at all. We have just gone through a flicking whole year of riots .... Mayor's, Governors, Congressional Reps., Speaker of the House, Senators, and Presidential candidates ignored it ... called anyone who voiced an inkling of a concern racist.

But now things are different.... Amazing how alert they have become to the dangers of not governing. But still remain scared to govern those who are more likely to vote for them.
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Jan 26 2021 06:54PM     link to this

If republicans actually wanted an insurrection pelosi schumer aoc biden etc would all be in shackles right now
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Jan 26 2021 07:07PM     link to this

Most of the comments on this blog are just plain nuts.
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Jan 26 2021 07:12PM     link to this

It's just so bad, I don't know where to begin to clean this mess up.
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Jan 26 2021 07:19PM     link to this

Nixon is not a good precedent actually
There wasn't any point to impeaching him after the fact
Not only had he resigned
But, he'd already been elected to a second term
So, technically not eligible to ever run again due to the 22nd Amendment

Dershowitz wrote an op-ed saying no
A law professor at Princeton says yes
It would have to be tested by SCOTUS most likely
To see what happens
There really is no precedent but a Secretary of War back in the 1800's is closest

Politically, it's probably a plus for Dems cause it makes some Reps take a public stand on the issue
But, it could backfire
Seriously, lots of folks hate Pelosi as much as they hate Trump

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Jan 26 2021 07:19PM     link to this

"It's just so bad, I don't know where to begin to clean this mess up."

Ist place to start would be to wipe your ass.
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Jan 26 2021 07:21PM     link to this

I've heard that Roberts want nothing to do with presiding over a second impeachment hearing so they've rounded up a Democrat to do it

That should be fair

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Jan 26 2021 07:22PM     link to this

Go blog cock somewhere else!

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Jan 26 2021 07:24PM     link to this

If the Congress that now consists of 85% white males have not pushed for domestic terrorist laws for the KKK and other white supremacist groups that have terrorized minorities, especially Black folks; they are not going to do it now! As we all know, there are police officers, judges, lawyers, your everyday redneck, and other White folk in the KKK, so they are not going to do anything. It was funny to read dickhead Trump's Platinum Plan for Black Folks saying that he was going to hold the KKK accountable! What a fucking joke! He said that so he could get the Black people's vote! We did not fall for the okey-doke but obviously the White folks that stormed the Capitol did! Kool-Aid drinking MFs! Arrest and punish them like if they were Black people, yeah right! White Privilege is real!!
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Jan 26 2021 07:39PM     link to this

Quick Jimbo
Run out and tell all those people of color who voted for him!
Seriously, are you for real?
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Jan 26 2021 07:46PM     link to this

Ignore the crap and get back on track:

There is precedent for post term impeachment:

“In 1876, as the U.S. House of Representatives was about to vote on articles of impeachment against Secretary of War William Belknap over corruption charges, Belknap walked over to the White House, submitted his resignation letter to President Ulysses S. Grant and burst into tears.

The House still went ahead and impeached Belknap, and the Senate tried him, with the impeachment managers arguing that departing office doesn’t excuse the alleged offense — otherwise, officeholders would simply resign to escape conviction or impeachment.”
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Night-Rider
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Jan 26 2021 07:49PM     link to this

Two things that clearly show someone can be impeached after they leave office:

First of all, right around the Constitution was being written, there was the trial of the century going on in Parliament. Warren Hastings, governor general of India, had resigned in 1785. Upon his return from England, after his resignation, he was impeached in the House of Commons for crimes and misdemeanors during his time in India, especially for embezzlement, extortion, and coercion and an alleged judicial killing of Maharaja Nandakumar. The House of Lords finally acquitted him on all charges in 1785.

The point is US law is based on English law, and the founding fathers clearly knew of this case of a man who was impeached AFTER he resigned. And so when they wrote about impeachment, they based it on what can occur in the British parliament, so of course you can do it after the fact here in the US.

Secondly, a bit of logic: The Senate can vote to prevent someone from holding public office ever again, but the person must be impeached and found guilty. If you can only impeach and convict while a person is in office, that person could resign before they get impeached, so you won't be able to prevent him from holding public office ever again. This is a gigantic loophole, so obviously, to prevent this loophole, you can be impeached even if out of office.

The answer is pretty clear to me.
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Jan 26 2021 07:58PM     link to this

^ Thank Allah we have the 2 best constitutional legal experts in the world on this site, who also have no axe to grind!

As a postscript to Sherky's breathless post, Belknap was acquitted

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Jan 26 2021 08:03PM     link to this

"Thank Allah we have the 2 best constitutional legal experts in the world on this site, who also have no axe to grind!"

Newsflash: Politics doesn't escape anyone who communicates an opinion on ability to impeach after leaving office.
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Jan 26 2021 08:05PM     link to this

I could give a shot if you can impeach him or not... my problem is that the people doing the impeachment should be impeached themselves.
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Jan 26 2021 08:05PM     link to this

You knuckleheads do realize that plenty of politicians in this country have been convicted of actual real crimes, then ran and won office?

How about just letting the turd run again and lose?
Or, run and rip the Republican party asunder?
He's already been totally embarrassed......if that's even possible for Donny.
Let it go and let Biden set the agenda without all the bullshit
You're not doing Joe any favors
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Jan 26 2021 08:07PM     link to this

"As a postscript to Sherky's breathless post, Belknap was acquitted"

irrelevant
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Jan 26 2021 08:08PM     link to this

"Newsflash: Politics doesn't escape anyone who communicates an opinion on ability to impeach after leaving office"

Did you mean to post an unintelligible sentence?

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Jan 26 2021 08:09PM     link to this

Marion Barry smoking crack channeled his inner Nancy Pelosi and said "That bitch set me up".... and she did. MR. mayor served his sentence and won re-election... ya can't make this shit up.
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