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Never... It will always be covering for the democraps.
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Not gone a happen. Only the youngsters will trust because they have not learned. And the schools don't teach it. Trusted College professors get a pass by them , but most are Democrats. And look at what we have here now. Even more smoke and mirrors from Lame stream media.
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That's pretty much where I stand but ... you can extrapolate that to trust in government institutions as well.
As long as the left demonizes independent centrists and conservatives rather then actually listening to what they're saying and realizing that there's a problem then nothing will get better and the rift will just continue to grow.
The end point won't be a pleasant one.
Atticus Finch
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"The end point won't be a pleasant one"
But it will be necessary, things will not be able to continue like this for long...
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Even I know he answer is “no.”
In terms of journalism there are not enough “straight shooters” who do not put a spin on things, but that balances out the rising screams of the far-right personalities anyway.
As for the rest of media itself (actors, directors, power brokers), they have seen what power they yield and will not just give it up. And our world right now prefers spectacle over dignity.
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Well, the question is what will restore your trust? Is it being factual? And if you get something wrong you correct it ASAP and do it in as public a manner as possible (like front page/top of show)? These are the things that make an information source credible in the first place.
But for some people, trust doesn't come with being factually accurate. In today's environment, trust usually equates to telling people what they want to hear and reinforcing what they already believe.
If what you're talking about is factual credibility (and if by mainstream media you mean oft-consumed ones like Fox, CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, WSJ, WashPost, etc.), then factual analysis shows most mainstream media never lost their factual credibility. Fox lost their factual credibility years ago, long before Trump came along.
If you're not referring to being fact-based, but are instead referencing editorial choices of mainstream media (as in what stories they cover and don't cover), then everybody is guilty of bias. Whether they're factual or not, every information source has to make editorial choices. Mainstream/corporate media makes choices that are financially advantageous to them. If their news divisions have some autonomy from their corporate owners and have integrity in deciding what is newsworthy, then you can have a good balance between making money and providing factual coverage of what is actually important and affecting our lives on a daily basis.
Most right-wing mainstream media opinion shows have forsaken being factual. They misrepresent the news of the day and then give an opinion based on that bastardized version of reality. Their content is intended to persuade and manipulate their viewers, not accurately inform them and provide cogent analysis. It's a shame. It's why we have QAnon believers in our government, why Republicans are scared of their own base voters and why insurrectionists stormed the Capitol.
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I can understand an individual or even an organization having a personal opinion - and I am OK with them expressing it - that's Freedom of Speech.
But I do think the media - all of them, should give both (or all) sides of the story/argument - and be consistent about it.
Once upon a time news programs had individuals from opposite sides present their positions - does anyone do that any more?
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OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
looks outside to make sure that the world is not ending!!!!!!!!!!!!
I uhm actually agree with @DOOM on this one
wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
maybe I should give Sherkahn a gold star or a cookie on this one.
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okay I retract my statement on what Sherkahn said.
but on a serious note
I think the problem is that mainstream news media has become largely the propaganda wing for the democratic party.
Fox News is not really conservative they have Hannity and Laura Ingraham who are conservative, but Tucker Carlson the one most hated on the left is very Libertarian in his view. When you take those 3 , the five and a couple of shows on the weekend you pretty much sum up all the conservative content on Fox News. The rest is fairly liberal!!!!!!
But what scares me the most is what comes from the left MSM, not only do they spin news reports to there narrative, but they demonize those on the right.
They make out many personalities and politicians on the right out to be something that is less than
When you start dehumanizing your opponents then you have reached the point of no return.
History has shown that what comes next is usually blood shed and blood shed on a mass scale.
so I do not expect the end game to be pretty.
In fact I believe that the end in all of this is probably going to end this nation period.
There will be no winners, just a bunch of survivors who will have to come to terms with how much they have lost and the stupid reasons why they lost it , and the sorrow from all the destruction that took place to get to this sorry state
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If you think the media ever lost trust, you don't matter. QAnnon is for people who don't even have a GED, congresswoman included. Like I can't watch Fox unless they fire Hannity and them some, not that I watch cable anyway.
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"I think the problem is that mainstream news media has become largely the propaganda wing for the democratic party.
Fox News is not really conservative they have Hannity and Laura Ingraham who are conservative, but Tucker Carlson the one most hated on the left is very Libertarian in his view. When you take those 3 , the five and a couple of shows on the weekend you pretty much sum up all the conservative content on Fox News. The rest is fairly liberal!!!!!!
But what scares me the most is what comes from the left MSM, not only do they spin news reports to there narrative, but they demonize those on the right.
They make out many personalities and politicians on the right out to be something that is less than
When you start dehumanizing your opponents then you have reached the point of no return.
History has shown that what comes next is usually blood shed and blood shed on a mass scale.
so I do not expect the end game to be pretty.
In fact I believe that the end in all of this is probably going to end this nation period.
There will be no winners, just a bunch of survivors who will have to come to terms with how much they have lost and the stupid reasons why they lost it , and the sorrow from all the destruction that took place to get to this sorry state "
You, sir, are blind. I know you won't and don't believe me, and that's fine. But one fine day, I hope and pray, you become aware of just how wrong your description above is. I don't know how that will happen. It's difficult to leave a cult when you don't even know you're in one, but maybe something will magically true you up to reality.
You're not the only one, and to be fair you've been lied to on subjects like this for 40+ years and from many different sources, but reality is almost the exact opposite of what you wrote.
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@J502 please tell me what cult am I in
I really would like to know.
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Until the main stream media cover BOTH sides of the political spectrum with question and doubt, they lost all credibility. You can't denounce an action by one party and not denounce the identical action by the other party. Everyone has bias, but outright hypocrisy and double standards will always put the MSM in a position of total lack of credibility.
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The media is a fucking joke.
In Biden's Super Bowl interview, he is asked, "Who would you rather catch a pass from - Mahomes or Brady?"
Trump's inverview from 4 years ago, he was asked about the Mueller investigation, Russian collusion, and other topics...
Notice Biden was never asked about Hunter, Hunter's laptop, and whether or not Joe is "the big guy."
If Trump had a son like Hunter, with a laptop like Hunter, you can damn well be sure that he'd be asked about it...and how his son fathered an offspring with a stripper in Florida...and smoked crack with a lady of the night on video...and all of his crooked deals in China and the Ukraine...
And no questions about, "Son of a bitch...he got fired!"
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It is funny watching you pretend to care what MSM can do to bring back alt right viewers as you simultaneously declare they can never bring you back.
Good thing the hoax virus covid 19 that the deep state created to make Trump look bad never really panned out. I mean...a lot of Americans could have died. Sure not as many as say...the flu...or car accidents...which are obviously waaaay more deadly....but still its ok...if it actually did turn out to be real then no testing and herd immunity is the best solution. Stupid msm would have you believe that we should care about covid19. What next? That Trump lost the election? Right.....
Now...shall we discuss all those wonderful Q theories now that the msm ignores because they wont report the truth like conservative media.
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How about MSM asking Joe anything of substance......quit with the softballs and previously selected questions by reporters. That is NOT journalism...but heck, journalism died many years ago.....
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The laptop is with the documents lost by DHL that Tucker Carlson lost...found...and never spoke of again.
Red Herring
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No.
Once the feds got rid of the fairness doctrine, unbiased media ended. News outlets cater to their ad base.
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The mainstream media will never restore trust in themselves
Or anything they report.
They will go the way of the dinosaurs once streaming takes over.
We will realize that watching Brian Stelter and 25 minutes of commercials
Every hour is no bueno.
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One problem is a critical mass are living in an echo chamber of social media algorithms and refuse to believe anything that does not match their narrow world view.
It is astounding to me how much the vail of reality has been pulled back from the establishment of what a house of cards it all really is, and still nothing gets done about it.
People just go back to their echo chambers and forget about it.
But, I think some are stating to pay attention.
Hopefully it will end with people having a conversation again and not shouting at each other.
The realist in me says that we are bound to destroy ourselves and each other.
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vss4 wrote: "@J502 please tell me what cult am I in
I really would like to know."
That's the problem. You don't even see your own bias and how easily manipulated you are by right-wing media.
I don't think it's your fault. Had I been born into a different family, or in a different part of the country, or at a different time, I might also have gone down the path of believing what the Republican party, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Breitbart, etc. have been putting out there.
All it takes is having that type of media on in the background while you're growing up. Having a parent, or pastor or teacher or mayor or sheriff that also bought into the Republican line. Once you believe that they're the ones telling you the truth, it's really, really hard to distinguish when they're lying to you.
If you want, we can go through it lie by lie. You tell me something you think is true, and we'll research it together.
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If anyone watches this you will see a detailed account of a lie built out of a bullshit interview.
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never going to happen
main stream media has been dead for decades
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The media report the way they do because it’s in their economic interest to do so. If people really demanded unbiased news, they’d get it. But that doesn’t sell. Liberals want to watch news with a liberal bias. Conservatives are equally as guilty and want to watch news with a conservative bias.
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Two points.
*** First, a lot of what we media consumers call 'journalism' or 'news' today is not either of those things. Rachel Maddow, Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, Wolf Blitzer, Sean Hannity and all those guys are doing COMMENTARY. That is not news. It is opinion, so of course it is full of spin. In fact, when Tucker Carlson got sued for outright lying on the air, the FOX network's defense was not that he told the truth but that Carlson's show is so full of exaggeration and spin that "no intelligent person" should think they could take his utterances as fact. And FOX actually won the lawsuit!
So if you are criticizing these people on FOX, CNN, and MSNBC for not giving unbiased 'news', you are barking up the wrong tree.
These networks all have actual 'news' shows, but they are almost invisible as they are buried in all the commentary. FOX news is actually pretty factual, for instance, but those clowns like Carlson. Ingraham, and Hannity tell one obvious lie after another. COMMENTARY is where FOX, MSNBC and CNN get their ratings and thus, their advertising money.
You are much more likely to get actual 'news' from AP, UPI, Reuters, British BBC, the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the actual news shows on WGN, FOX, CBS, ABC, and NBC.
And you should never depend on all similar sources. A variety is good. In a political science class I took in college, we used the Christian Science Monitor as a source, because it was less biased on most subjects. Get your news from the conservative New York Post if you want, but then also read the New York Times. Otherwise, YOU are creating the bias in how you consume your news.
*** Second, there is a BIG difference between spin and outright lying. When someone says "Obama's foreign policy was coherent and well-thought out", that is obvious spin, because it is an opinion regarding a set of facts, not a fact in itself. When Trump says "Mexico is paying for the Wall", that is an outright lie. It is a statement of a fact that is actually just not true. See how that works?
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No, not for Fox and their kind. They cut off the impeachment manager while presenting footage of the riot. Why crame-op keeping digging up animated youtube videos.
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'Journalists have a code of ethics and a standard of practice that has been followed for many years.'
That ended after reagan deregulated the news industry. From that point on networks like abc, cbs, nbc, cnn etc have viewed news as 'entertainment' not relaying information. It's also resulted in 'news' being relayed with a left or right slant. Too, no longer do 'they' have to have corroborating sources or get their facts right.
We've gone from people like Walter Cronkite at one time being considered the most trusted man in America to those like o'reilly, cooper, lemon, hanity, madow etc. who are just mouth pieces & shills just pushing and furthering an agenda. Kinda like the supreme court.
Atticus Finch
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