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Stopping the pipeline was a Great idea... 
Opening the borders another Great idea..
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if you are watching psaki...can you be honest with your thoughts?
i'm always one for BOD...always looking for positives...I've tried with her...it's getting tuff
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Don't you mean Susan Rice's decisions? Isn't she the puppeteer controlling the Biden marionette?
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Speaking about watching psaki:
Why are the illegal aliens not getting covid testing before getting released to in the US?
Fumbles through papers, doesn't answer the question, as usual..
Maybe she will circle back around to that too.
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i'm just not sure it's her fault...lots of E/O's and hard to digest what's going on and what's next
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some other past press secretaries said she could be BETTER prepared...that would solve most of the issues
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Uhm, zero lefty libs are good with Biden as president so far. Biden isn't lefty and isn't acting like a lefty.
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He didn't incite his supporters to riot. 200+ Trumptards now facing charges. So there's that.
Admit it, don't you think those rioters are chumps.
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when do the 2k checks get here?
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i think most on here said they need to be going to jail
you want to shoot em? i'm good with that also
can we shoot all the other people causing people and property harm...i like equal justice...the new 1 strike law
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fuck the domestic terrorists!!!!
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@Insearchofstarfish, the lefties are too dumb to answer that question.
They have no clue what Biden is doing, because they easily fall prey to the MSM's, distractions of Republicans are evil, Orange man bad and anyone not on the left is a terrorist..
So yeah, they're pretty much clueless
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I have to admit I love it when Psaki says, "can we circle back", and then never circles back..
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Biden is not a lefty he is crony corporate establishment, controlled by Obama and his leftovers.
The lefty morons were duped into voting for him because, Orange man bad!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i'm pretty sure his recent E/O's are lefty blessed
they are all one at this point
i would assume though that moderate dems can't be happy with some of this crap
we shall see...two years...the clock has started
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@Insearchofstarfish, Biden's executive orders are really based on two things.
1. To resurrect and restore Obama policies that Trump removed
2. And too destroy as much of Trump's legacy as possible.
It all has that Obama aroma to it. They want to finish transforming America to the Corporatist, Commie Socialist, dystopian nightmare.
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Ah, the fresh smell of Obama is back in the air.
Aaah....
On a serious note, Biden’s just had undo a lot of the bullshit Trump set up. The nation is a mess and no real progress is being made, just catching up and cleaning up the turds from the previous administration.
I want to see how he handles a real *new* challenge like China or Myanmar.
Now, if we are talking about political capital I myself am pissed that they are not coming down hard on the Trump enablers as hard as they should. There is difference of opinion and then there is downright falsehoods and insurrection, and the GOP who turned on Trump are doubling back to save their asses.
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How will Biden react to China?
Like Obama probably.
Apology tour & bend deeply at the waist.
But I could be wrong.
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Stopping the pipeline is good. It never should have been opened and released, and we have the spills to prove it.
Two majors spills in 2017 and 2019 with a cost of $2.8 billion of lost revenue and the clean up cost is still going up. The existing pipelines could handle the load, but opening up keystone was a way to line up pockets, not bring in value to the nation.
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Biden is only cleaning up the Trump mess.
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Try growing up and learn the actually learn what a communist is. It seems people that hide behind there scrrens are brave. Have them come out of hiding they will just be cowards.
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Biden's been so so. I'm disappointed that he is so progressive. Thought he would govern as a moderate.
Here are some things I don't like:
1. Don't like the fact that he didn't pair getting rid of the keystone pipeline with new jobs.
2. Don't like the fact that stimulus money isn't targeted to businesses and people that were directly affected by the pandemic. Giving $1400 to everyone who makes $150,000 makes no sense.
3. Looks like Biden's picks for positions related to the economy are aimed at pleasing progressives.
4. Biden's DOJ civil rights pick has a history of supporting controversial ideas ("blacks have superior genes") or people (anti-semites).
5. Biden's immigration plan doesn't do much to enforce the border.
6. Biden doesn't seem to understand the importance of the Space Force.
There are other things, but I don't have time to research more.
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Wait...you want us to compare Biden's press conferences to Trump's? As I recall...the first 3 weeks of Trump was Spicer out there trying to berate and beat everyone into believing that Trump's inauguration was somehow bigger than Obamas. It was ridiculous. It was an obvious lie too. Then Biden's Psaki out there trying to answer questions. Oh noes...she made fun of the Space Force!....I think we all did. Trump made fun of pows, veterans, gold star families and the military calling them losers....you gave him a pass every time...but Psaki made fun of the space force...suddenly you magas care. Are you joking?
Compare Biden to Trump? Well I recall Trump doing rallies for re-election on day 4. Is Biden wasting our time and resources so soon. You somehow think Biden will break Trump's record for time off? Hate tweeting?
Executive Orders. A lot of scuttlebutt about all these executive orders. Trump set the record on that. Biden is setting a new record with so many so quickly...but I will bet anyone here his total will be less than Trumps. But thats the thing isnt it. Executive orders are easily done by....executive orders. Trump had Congress for his first two years. He could have did the work, worked the phones, convinced his allies in Congress to pass bills. He didn't. Too much work. He liked to sign executive orders and take photo ops doing it. Dont blame Biden for Trump's lazoness. Biden is taking the gift Trump gave him...and running with it.
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“Two majors spills in 2017 and 2019 with a cost of $2.8 billion of lost revenue and the clean up cost is still going up.”
You obviously have never built a business. One of my favorite proverbs...
14:4 “Where no oxen are, the stall is clean; but increase comes by the strength of an ox.”
If you want a clean stall... don’t get any oxen. But... if you want to get something done on a large scale... you need oxen. If you have oxen... part of the price is cleaning up the crap.
Problems like spills were considered in their business model Poindexter.
So in your mind... you shouldn’t do something if there will be problems that come with doing it.
BTW... whose “revenue” was lost? If it’s not yours... why do you care? If it is yours... you have the choice to invest in other areas.
At least you used a weak business point of lost revenue rather than a fake concern about the environment. I’ll give you a little respect for that.
I bet you have flappy jowls... and shake your head and and say, “I’m outraged.”
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Trump lost 22 million jobs because he failed to take Covid 19 seriously. We got around 42% back. Now you want to complain about Biden taking away 8,000 jobs. Is this an actual comparison? 12 million jobs vs 8,000 jobs? This is a prank right? This isnt an actual point you are trying to prop up are you?
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so let me get this straight you claim Trump lost 22 million jobs and then got 42% of those jobs back.
and so far Biden has not really gained any jobs but he has lost 11,000 jobs
@Dtresden, i know your not that stupid but then again maybe you are..
It's clear that the job losses were not the result of Trump's response to covid but the true culprit was actually the lockdowns.
Many blue states had the most severe lockdowns while some red states never locked down.
Blue states with the most severe lockdowns and caused the most damage to the economy
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@Kaiser
"“Two majors spills in 2017 and 2019 with a cost of $2.8 billion of lost revenue and the clean up cost is still going up.”
You obviously have never built a business. One of my favorite proverbs...
14:4 “Where no oxen are, the stall is clean; but increase comes by the strength of an ox.”
If you want a clean stall... don’t get any oxen. But... if you want to get something done on a large scale... you need oxen. If you have oxen... part of the price is cleaning up the crap.
Problems like spills were considered in their business model Poindexter."
Easy to say when it's not your water or land that's being affected.
That's not even taking into account the effect of oil extraction, oil transport, oil refining and oil consumption has on our environment or the issue of illegal use of the ancestral lands of the Sac and Fox tribes.
Oil companies weren't hurting for money when they started building this pipeline. They could've done it legally, it just would've cost them more. Allowing the trampling of the sovereign rights of Native Americans was just another form of corporate welfare.
Yeah, some jobs may be lost in the short term, but many more will be created when we invest in the overdue and highly necessary forms of clean energy that actually have a future.
But all of that history and logic doesn't really matter to most people that blog here. They just want to troll the libs.
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the only pockets getting lined are warren buffets since he owns the cargo train routes
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@vss4
I don't know. Maybe you don't know this, but the point of the lockdowns was to get the number of infections down so that we could reopen more fully, and of course, save lives. You know, like the European countries were able to do. They stuck with the lockdowns longer until their numbers came way down and then were able to open more businesses and schools as a result. They also didn't have leaders who politicized wearing a mask. Other countries leaders encouraged everyone to wear a mask and didn't try to turn it into a bullshit free speech thing.
In case you don't remember, Trump cut the lockdowns short and reopened too soon. Our numbers never came down to a level where we could do tracing and isolation like the other countries did. So not only did our economy stay mostly shut down for longer, but more people died. A lot more people died.
If we had stayed in a more complete shut down until our numbers came down to a manageable level, then we could've opened up restaurants, airlines, etc. But Trump panicked. He thought shutting down for a longer period of time would hurt the economy in the short term so much that he'd lose the election. So he lied to the American people over and over and over again about how it will just go away and not to worry and he stopped the shut down waaaaay too early undercutting any benefits it created in the short term. And thus, here we are. Leading in virus deaths. No else is even close. 2nd in deaths per capita of any industrialized country trailing only Brazil who's President did what Trump did. Denied the existence of a pandemic. Said masks were for the weak, etc.
You can go down the revisionist history road if you want but it doesn't make you accurate.
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really he cut the lockdowns short? he controlled that? he did give you a vaccine and the country some hope. i remember him recommending WE all go on lockdown to keep the deaths from reaching 200k by august and giving hospitals and PPE a chance to get their footing....ALL based on fauci and burks...DID you see the news conference? want me to find it for you?
when he mentioned opening by easter? what do you think that was? that's important for the conversation btw
let's see what Biden can do differently...not sure what that is btw...there seem to be a lot of money going out to people that supported him in these deals
was that WHO statement about lockdowns reversed?
again...this shit is not in a vacuum...ALL lives are affected by this. MAYBE the ugliest death might be the one that went a year, lost everything (family, money, life's work), and put a gun in his mouth for 3months before pulling the trigger...THE untold story
cdc study was suicide contemplation of 25 and younger was 25%
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Anybody get banned or tagged on Twitter? Good enough for me.
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Remember when Trump ordered his administration to limiting testing for covid?
Remember when Trump said if we didn't test we wouldn't have so many cases?
Remember when Trump suggested we see if injecting disinfectant into our bodies would work to kill the virus?
Remember when Trump pushed to end the lockdowns without bringing the number cases low enough to get contact tracing going?
Remember when Trump told people it was like the flu?
Remember when Trump told people it would magically go away?
Remember when Trump could've used the national production act to make N95 masks and other PPE but didn't?
Remember when Trump could've taken control of making sure states were getting everything they needed and negotiated lower prices but instead let state Governors fend for themselves and compete against each other thus driving prices up and creating needless chaos?
Remember when Trump just basically gave up and didn't do anything to bring the virus under control and lower the number of deaths?
Remember when Trump told his followers that covid was the new democratic party hoax?
Remember when Trump told his followers that the media was reporting on covid just to hurt his chances of re-election and that the moment the election was over, the news would stop covering it?
Should I keep going? Were even paying attention over the last year? Or do you just have a shitty memory?
Oh, that's right. It's none of those. You're only interested in puffing your chest out and "owning" the libs.
Grow. The. Fuck. Up.
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@J502 , maybe you do not know this. But originally the lockdowns were suppose to be for only 15 days and the purpose of the lockdown's were to flatten the curve. They wanted to make sure hospitals were not over capacity with covid patients. That was the point of the lockdowns.
After the first 15 days the lockdowns that continued were pure bullshit and power grabs by state governors and municipal mayors.
Some states never even had lockdowns, such as South Dakota and Utah. There economies are not suffering like cali's is and Kansas ended there lockdown back in june.
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starfish wrote: "really he cut the lockdowns short? he controlled that?"
Yes, he did... in Republican states with Republican governors. They did whatever he told them to do. It was all over the news. Were you paying attention? Did you miss when he did that. Trump said it's time to open and sure enough Florida, Texas, Louisiana, Georgia, Arizona and many others opened up. You are aware of the sway he held (and still holds) over the Republican party, right?
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@j502 funny how all the states you mentioned are not doing bad economically.
All those states that democrat governors decided to play king in now want bailouts from the feds
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@vss4
"@J502 , maybe you do not know this. But originally the lockdowns were suppose to be for only 15 days and the purpose of the lockdown's were to flatten the curve. They wanted to make sure hospitals were not over capacity with covid patients. That was the point of the lockdowns.
After the first 15 days the lockdowns that continued were pure bullshit and power grabs by state governors and municipal mayors.
Some states never even had lockdowns, such as South Dakota and Utah. There economies are not suffering like cali's is and Kansas ended there lockdown back in june."
Um, I wrote that the purpose of the lockdowns was to flatten the curve in my post to you, so yeah, I knew that. Next time, try reading maybe?
The lockdowns weren't supposed to be for 15 days. They were, as we both apparently agree, supposed to go until we flattened the curve. That was the whole purpose of them. But Trump wanted them to only last a little while. So, in red states with republican governors, they opened up waaaaayy too soon without ever flattening the curve to the point it needed to be.
And how could a lockdown for obvious public health reasons in the middle of a PANDEMIC be bullshit power grabs? How did governors and mayors benefit from shutting down their states and cities? That's gotta be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Power grabs? They didn't gain any power. They personally, financially and politically gained nothing. What they were doing was following the recommendations of the world's best epidemiologists in an attempt to save people's lives.
Ah, South Dakota and Utah. Excellent, representative examples of the country. Let's see, what do those two states have in common. Oh, that's right! Lots of wide open spaces and not a lot of people. And yet, South Dakota had one of the highest rates of covid case growth in the nation a little bit ago. Hunh...
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j502 blah, blah , blah ,blah
you say Europe is a success. Err then why are they in lockdown currently. Why the rioting in Denmark and in Paris. Why did all the people flee Paris because of stricter lockdowns.
Utah 80% of the population lives in and around Salt Lake City, you do realize that is a city right???
so yea try to keep it short because @SonofSodom is special and we do not want him to throw a fit before the small yellow bus comes to pick him up for his daily special meetings
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Just look at the unemployment rates by state.
Blue states bad
Red states good.
Our national economy is the sum total of the State's economies. States like New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts shut down hard and their economies reflect the shutdowns. And their death rates are worse than most of the red states. The data is now showing the lockdowns didn't accomplish what those governors thought it would....they chose wrong and their states should not get bailed out by the Feds.
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Mkay
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@VSS
Which is worse.
losing 12 million jobs
losing 8,000 jobs (it varies)
THen you call me stupid.
I get it...you dont have logic so you got to call me names. oh boo hoo
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like those have anything to do with one another...pretty funny shit
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Whoever was the president during Covid-19 would have lost jobs.
A pandemic is a different animal compared to flat out signing off on an E/O that eliminates the jobs.
I bet if Joe had been in charge, we would have lost double or triple that amount.....
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maybe your leader should be protecting jobs, especially being down 12million, not cutting them out of trump spite
that would seem prudent?
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Yes pandemic bad, but one country handled it way worse than any other country and has been impacted more than any other country. Mostly because their leader lied to everyone and then ignored the recommendations of experts, downplayed the danger, and did what he could to stop accurate reporting. I'll give you one guess....
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Wow, this thread is like trumptard circle jerk.
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Covid deaths
If your country has more than 100,000 deaths you get listed.
lets give an x for every 25,000 deaths for those countries over 100,000 or part of 25,000
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX USA
XXXXXXXXXX Brazil
XXXXXXX Mexico
XXXXXXX India
XXXXX UK
No one else above 100,000
It's not even close how bad Trump blew it with corona virus. South Korea had its first reported case on the same day as America and they are right next to China. 1,482 deaths. We would be ecstatic if that was our daily death count right now let alone our total for the entire pandemic.
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Biden's ratings so far:
53% Favorable
38% Unfavorable
I don't believe Trump ever hit 50%
As I previously mentioned, if Biden can get the pandemic until control and the economy takes off, the approval ratings will go sky high.
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