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Locked. No further comments permitted.Trump gets ready for more butt hurt
Feb 22 2021 10:34AM more by sherkahn
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The Supreme Court has said NY can access Trump’s tax returns.
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Ohhhhh yeeeaaaaaah
      
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Feb 22 2021 02:16PM     link to this

HAAAAH!!!! HAAAAH!!! HAAAAH!!!!🤣🤣🤣
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Feb 22 2021 02:16PM     link to this

Bring it on!!!!
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Feb 22 2021 02:25PM     link to this

But....but...but...Trump is being audited....yeah, since 2011!
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Feb 22 2021 04:21PM     link to this

And he is going to get reamed so bad he will feel it ibeyonf the boundaries of time and space, back to 2011
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Feb 22 2021 06:02PM     link to this

IN YO' FACE!!!!
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Feb 22 2021 06:08PM     link to this

I'm very curious what his finances look like, so i hope they put his returns on the internet.
I doubt he's a billionaire, maybe not even a millionaire
I blame the banks for his presidency
If they had simply foreclosed back in the '90's when he was underwater
Nobody would have ever seen the guy again
Consequences
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Feb 22 2021 07:02PM     link to this

I'm not sure why Ttrump is upset about an investigator being allowed to see his tax returns.

Back in 2016, he repeatedly promised the American people we could all see them, although he did keep putting off the timing ...

... after my audit
... after Russian hackers get me Hliiary's emails
... after trying to blackmail the Georigia Secretary of State
... after sidng with a mob that tried to kill the Vice President
... after my divorce from Melania?
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Feb 22 2021 07:53PM     link to this

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/coca-cola-staff-online-training-seminar-be-less-white
in other news this is what democrats are up to at the COCACOLA headquarters..
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Feb 22 2021 09:03PM     link to this

Odd, that article does not mention democrats.
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Feb 22 2021 09:41PM     link to this

The reality in these cases is that the taxpayer rarely goes to jail unless he intentionally lied about income. The IRS approved agent for the taxpayer will go to bat unless the taxpayer lied about the details. As long as they were honest and the CPA followed the guidelines....even while being aggressive.....they will normally go for penalties, back taxes, etc. But not jailtime...

Keep in mind that IRS agents work for the government cause they're not smart enough to get a private sector job. But, they could just hate Donnys guts like so many do and say fuck it.....I'll risk my pension just put the orangutan behind bars

If he goes, Hillary has to go too. She's one the one we know absolutely broke Federal law at this point.

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Feb 22 2021 09:43PM     link to this

Id be more interested in biden and his ties to china but then again im not a terrorist who hates america like the OP
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Feb 22 2021 09:50PM     link to this

^ he's guilty as fuck, you know that
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Feb 22 2021 10:39PM     link to this

Donny needn’t worry about the IRS.

The NY DA will hire the best forensic accountants and financial investigators to dissect all of Trump’s financial records to make its case. It’s going to be brutal.
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Feb 23 2021 07:53AM     link to this

It is going to be entertaining.

What we will learn....

1. He isn’t as rich as he wants us to believe (we already know)
2. He has more debt than he wants us to know about (we already know)
3. He paid little or no taxes most years (we already know)
4. He gave far less to charity than he wants us to believe (we already know)
5. He broke no laws... he worked the system that was in place (the system Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations had in place.)
6. He may have to pay back taxes and penalties for write-offs deemed not allowable. (we already know)

Conclusions:
Those who hate him will hate him more (which really doesn’t matter)
Those who love him will still love him (which really doesn’t matter)
Those who don’t care ... still won’t care. (Which really doesn’t matter)


Ultimately.... it really doesn’t matter.
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Feb 23 2021 08:36AM     link to this

hell with his taxes
I want the alleged pee tape to leaked
can't get enough russian disinfo
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Feb 23 2021 09:40AM     link to this

That proves that Kaiser still a Trump supporter and a believer as much as Qanon Why not just admit it to HX members and to yourself.
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Feb 23 2021 09:44AM     link to this

Hiding your tracks with substantial real estate holdings is difficult.

Since he's an egomaniac, he likely inflated the values of his properties to encourage financial institutions to continue to lend to him. No American banks have agreed to lend to him for years; it would be interesting to see if someone (e.g., Russians) guaranteed his loans with Deutsche Bank.

Since he's a moron, he likely minimized the values of his properties too aggressively to reduce his tax liability.


All investigators and forensic accountants have to do is compare the numbers for each of his properties.



Remember that Trump negotiated a plum deal with the IRS prior to becoming president, which was heavily criticized, but because of his antagonism of the NY DA, no stone will be left unturned by them. His financials and tax returns will be heavily scrutinized, the same way they scrutinized his sham charity. He knows he's fucked.

Also remember that the woman who handled all of Trump's finances at Deutsche Bank suddenly resigned at the end of December 2020. Just imagine the information investigators are getting out of her...

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Feb 23 2021 09:48AM     link to this

Trump doesn't give a flying fuck about any of this nonsense.

If his taxes are incorrect, then the fault lies with his accountants/CPA firms. He will pay the tax owed and the penalties and then sue his accountants. Tax evasion has three elements, all of which must be met:

(1) willfulness,
(2) the existence of a tax deficiency, and
(3) an affirmative act constituting an evasion (or an attempted evasion) of tax.

You'll never get past #1, as Trump will simply claim unfamiliarity with the tax code and that he hired professionals to act on his behalf. Willfulness immediately changes to a mistake...pay the ticket and be done with it.

This of course assumes that there's any tax deficiency in the first place...just like that Russian collusion we heard all about. What happened to that?

In the meantime, Trump's coming out party #2 is at CPAC on 2/28. The midterms are just around the corner!
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Feb 23 2021 11:42AM     link to this

"Trump doesn't give a flying fuck about any of this nonsense"

Then why is it that Trump tried to block DA or congress from obtaining his tax records in the first place? Can you answer that?

It is unbelievable that still 46% of Republicans are willing to go with Trump if he formed a new party, and I am hoping that happens, then both his new party and Republican party will never flourish in near future, the end of both parties or to stay a minority party for good.
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Feb 23 2021 12:39PM     link to this

Who cares about any of this? only pathetic losers....
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Feb 23 2021 01:00PM     link to this

^^^

Trump says, "What he said!"
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Feb 23 2021 02:00PM     link to this

Unfortunately he is unlikely to go to jail. It's the civil suits that will have him in tears.
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Feb 23 2021 02:06PM     link to this

Rachrener..... I love that you are always focused on me.

Not sure why it’s so important to you whether or not I am a “Trump supporter.” But I am flattered by your attention.

Now.... while you are down there.... rub my feet.
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@ RawCranium

shittiest HX blogger ever

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Feb 23 2021 03:24PM     link to this

It will be interesting to see what New York actually finds. I would not be surprised if tax returns given to banks in order to obtain loans do not match tax returns actually filed with the IRS. Since most bank are insured and usually guaranteed by the FDIC this crime is usually something the Federal Government ends up handling. It is the same infraction that Geraldine Ferraro's (former candidate for VP) husband plead guilty to in New York after the 1984 Presidential Election. It is a relatively common fraud perpetrated by a lot of people trying to buy real estate including many in California.

Most property tax returns involve reporting the year and amounts you paid for the original purchase of land, buildings, improvements, etc. The governing tax authority is usually the one that determines the current value of the property for taxation purposes. If the amounts in his books don't agree with what was reported on the returns that could be problematic.

Obviously if what he reported to the IRS or the State of New York is incorrect then he may have other problems.


Time will tell and it might be some time before anybody knows for sure.



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Feb 23 2021 03:42PM     link to this

"Only the DA and possibly a grand jury can see what's in them. The rest of us have to wait until the DA or a grand jury member leaks the returns to Brian Stelter."

So yeah.. you can wait to hear CNN completely butcher any semblance of truth when they get the official anonymous insider leak from someone not very close to the case.

It will all be packaged up to distract you from the pathetic job the WH is doing and the next media charade with the Jan 6th deal.
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Feb 23 2021 05:28PM     link to this

Crane... the DA will give copies to forensic accountants, tax professionals and probably IRS auditors as the build the case to present to the grand jury.

If you don’t think they will be leaked and end up with TMZ or some level of Wiki.... You might think Mr. T is going to be president in the next 3 years and 11 months.
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Feb 23 2021 05:33PM     link to this

Sorry GBD... I must correct you...


Raw crawfish is “The SUCKIEST blogger on HX”
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Feb 23 2021 05:38PM     link to this

I think Mr T would be quite the upgrade btw
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Feb 23 2021 09:04PM     link to this

I'm with KaiserSoce and yellowB2
I don't think the NY DA will find much that will stick.
This is just the continued harassment of Trump because
he is rocking their boat.
I dealt with a few wealthy people in my time and most
know how to hide their assets legally.
Trump has a team of CPAs and tax attorneys who are paid
to cover all the bases. Most CPAs and tax attorneys
are risk aversive and have discussed any risk with
tax return filings.
The assumption seems to be that Trump is operating
as a criminal when there has not been any evidence
to support this assumption.
I don't think Trump operates his businesses by
breaking the law. I believe he is a shrewd businessperson
who takes advantage of the tax laws as well as other
wealthy people.
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Feb 23 2021 09:15PM     link to this

I meant to say the Trump takes advantage of the tax laws, the
same as other wealthy people take advantage of the tax laws.
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Feb 23 2021 09:23PM     link to this

i'm going with only minor tax issues

look for them to set up a leak sting
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Feb 24 2021 08:10AM     link to this

Kaiser & GB, bad-mouthed Siamese twins always voice together to compensate each other

I am just reacting the foul comments you guys made against me. If you want me to be civil, you have to start it first, that simple
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Feb 24 2021 11:59AM     link to this

LOCK HIM UP!
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Feb 24 2021 02:00PM     link to this

There is take advantage and then their is lying on the value of your real estate (raising value for the loan, lowering value for taxes on the same property), among other tax evasion crimes.

“The work continues”.
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Feb 24 2021 05:18PM     link to this

No conspiracy theory here. Very simple logic deduction. Trump doesn't want you to see his taxes. He rather does the same as what Nixon did. The simple conclusion is that once you see his taxes, you won't let him fix anything, won't let him make anything strong again.
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Feb 24 2021 05:30PM     link to this

Everybody seems focused on the taxes themselves. And you're rigth, people rarely go to jail over taxes unless they get real stupid like some 'sovereign citizen' psychos and try to just not pay at all.

I am more interested how the tax documents may show other things. - Like that Trump inflated his asset values to obtain loans.

That may have been fraud, obtaining something of value by intentional and material deceit.

I'll keep the popcorn packets handy, just in case.
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Feb 24 2021 06:17PM     link to this

so what are we thinking the problem is going to be with the taxes? spell it out exactly

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Feb 24 2021 10:37PM     link to this

It’s it just his taxes that he should be worried about. He’s going to be investigated for his weird love affair with Russia and Vladimir Putin.
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Feb 24 2021 10:52PM     link to this

It is not just his taxes that he should be worried about. He is going to be investigated for his weird love affair with Russia and Vladimir Putin, his financial ties to them (did a Russian oligarch back his loans with Deutsche Bank?), and the strange real estate transactions he’s made with Russians.

The linked article is to a house he sold for $95 million in Palm Beach that he bought four years earlier for $41 million. Transactions like this may be a way to siphon money to Trump nefariously. He apparently sold units in Trump Tower to Russians as well. If the buyer pays FMV for a property, then that is obviously fine, but you can easily launder large sums through inflated real estate deals.

Lastly, Mueller has admitted that he didn’t investigate Trump’s finances at all because of Trump’s “red line” that his finances were off limits for Mueller’s investigation. The article is mistaken that the Palm Beach sale was already investigated by him.
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Feb 24 2021 11:35PM     link to this

real estate, art and jewelry....best things to launder and move money thru

why that B?




i was leafing thru that article and they were hung up on that 980k of prop. taxes under the picture...not sure what the issue was there in first link

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Feb 24 2021 11:47PM     link to this

there are some that say putin is worth 200b dollars

they pay a premium to park that money....shit, we have gone for quite awhile where people are getting "charged" to have big money in accts...not GETTING interest

not sure any proof is going to come out of this...the kinda proof that puts him in jail.

that was a one of kind property do we know what happened to that property after the sale? split it into three lots? maybe if they think they can make a few percent each year...it was a safe place...IF the money is ill gotten or without tax on their END of things...protecting every last dollar is not the biggest motivation





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Feb 25 2021 12:10AM     link to this

hopefully you were in place for that gme move today...that's jerk off type stuff
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Feb 25 2021 12:33AM     link to this

It’s beyond just the monetary gains. What was the money meant to buy? His loyalty perhaps? There’s a KGB agent that claims that they’ve been working Trump for 40 years. Of course they may find only a weak Russian connection, but I suspect there is more there than we now know and it could get really interesting. Beyond that, he cooked the books like most real estate developers, but antagonizing prosecutors with his arrogance is going to do him in.


I’m actually all in on FNGR and GTII. I lost a lot in GME and AMC calls. I was planning on buying more GME calls this week but didn’t. Disappointing.

Brokerages changed the collateral requirement to 300% of any short position today or yesterday, so shorts are scrambling to come up with the cash or they will be forced to buy back the shares they shorted if they don’t meet the new guidelines. The next few days are going to be really interesting. Hope it doesn’t trigger a market crash or substantial correction before I sell my stock. Clearing houses may go under if they have to absorb short/hedge fund losses that could run into the 10s of billions.
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Feb 25 2021 01:09AM     link to this

i get it about the possible russian stuff...we shall see how it plays out


i know you hate him with all your being...i liked his presidency...I didn't see the russian influence in action...was there anything that stood out over the last 4 years?

i think YOU might get to see how some influence in the next 4...hopefully not though


i don't think he has antagonized the prosecutors...they have been ready to go since the gun went off...they are ready to make a name for themselves and write some books





bummer about that the gme,,,been there with one of the ugliest trades ever...bro and wife are still shaking their heads 17yrs later as i traded out of half a million option gain to save 1000 bucks

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Feb 25 2021 01:35AM     link to this

“I am more interested how the tax documents may show other things. - Like that Trump inflated his asset values to obtain loans.”

Why does that interest you?

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Feb 25 2021 07:05AM     link to this

I do hate Trump with all my being. I think he’s a false prophet to many who fell for his scam.

I went to grad school with stupid, lazy, talentless trust fund babies like him. He was criminally incompetent as President and he deserves everything he’s going to get. His taxes are just one thing that will be easy to investigate. The needless deaths due to covid that he could have prevented/mitigated is another.
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Feb 25 2021 08:05AM     link to this

Repeated Trump-Putin honeymoon trips-Russian Oligarchs-Deutches Bank are all related.

It is NOT a belief on my side as some of HX members claim, it is our suspicion worth being investigated.
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