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"possible plot"
No gloom to see here... ☹️☹️
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If *ANYTHING* happens tomorrow then it is totally scripted and planned by Pelosi and Schumer.
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^^^ ^^^^^
Amen to that Brother.
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I just watched a portion of QAnon Sharman interview at 60mins, and here is what he said about his "belief" in Trump;
"It looks like the media is picking on him, the establishment was going after him unfairly...I have been that victim all my life, whether at school or at home...I identified with him, a lot of negative things he was going through..."
So one thing I can safely conclude is that he totally "identified" himself with Trump as a victim, being unfairly treated by others, and that QAnon conspiracy theory was created with single purpose with this twisted false political agenda to sink into a weak minded person like Sharman to not just support Trump but also believe him as a savior.
It is a pity that this poor guy/or any QAnon believer never realized that Trump does not care people like him at all, and that Trump would never let him/her to stay at his hotel at any circumstances. All Trump care is himself being rich and famous, and other people like himself (to be exact, Trump simply does not care how they became rich and famous).
If he really cares with people like QAnon, he would have said they should wear masks and keep social distance to avoid Covid-19 infection. All he cared was that his base continue to support him at any price ( his base becoming the victim of the virus never surface to his mind, that is how his mind is made up, everybody is just a tool for himself).
By the way "If *ANYTHING* happens tomorrow then it is totally scripted and planned by Pelosi and Schumer" comment by rabbit is totally nonsensical that most republicans at HX makes. So you think the Capitol riot was made up by Pelosi and Schumer as well. Please think before saying anything stupid
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Useful idiots...
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did you see the FBI counterterrorism div. ASS DIRECTOR - jill sanborn??? in a hearing on the hill?
talking about the ARMED INSURRECTION - that was the big liberal media push (the 5am fax that went out and every talking head/dem politician repeated those very words over and over)
what did she say again?
no weapons were recovered from anyone arrested on the scene that day...no shots fired, except for the ones that killed the unarmed lady crawling thru a window (which probably should have been rubber bullets or stun gun type shit)
so nobody charged with weapons IN or ON the capitol grounds
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based on these threats...should be a fun few days
BTW trump looked pretty rested and slimmed down on sunday...2024 could be a real possibility if he keeps exercising
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Just another psy-op false flag operation trying to make you feel they are doing something, which is nothing but wasting taxpayer money.
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@ISOS
I guess the poles, hockey sticks, tasers, and chemicals sprayed and used on the Capitol Police weren't considered weapons.
And let's not forget the pipe bombs left at Democrat and Republican offices weren't weapons either.
Republican groups, including Q, were the only ones who were a part of the insurrection on January 6 according toFBI chief Christopher Wray; there has never been any evidence that people other than right wingers were involved.
Claiming Antifa or anyone else was involved then or may be involved today is typical Republican gaslighting.
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the ass director of terror division was testifying on the hill...THAT is exactly what she said
yes, we saw those weapon reports...pictures and all
what do we make of her answers though?
do we have any arresting paperwork of people charged with any weapons...I haven't looked lately...just thinking about what this fbi lady testified
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@isos
So one person answers inaccurately and you question your own eyes? Did you not see any of the footage of the insurrection?
And Crane, there has never been any evidence if Antifa at the insurrection on January 6. Even the insurrectionists have complained because they want to take credit for fighting for Trump.
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^ LOL at CNN, such a trustworthy source.
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saw all that before...I didn't follow up with any of them...did they take any of those into the siege?
I guess i will have to follow up with their arrest
what was the asst. fbi director testifying about though? none arrested that day? had a weapons charge? maybe qualifying it with that she knew of? a few arrested later?
BTW...when i hear every single talking head on the news and politician saying and chanting the exact SAME THING from a 5am fax, I think somethings up
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maybe an independent investigation can shed the appropriate light on this thing...planning, weapons, responses
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@MA do you not get that ANTIFA leader JaydenX was at the Capitol and FILMED Ashlii getting killed? Or that he was charged by the FIB? Wray was lying right there. (I can site sources if you'd like).
Did you not see the 20 min documentary film on Ashlii's shooting? Or the Epoch Times foreign journalist claiming it was a staged false flag event?
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A fork can be used as a weapon if you stab someone with it. The fact that so many Capitol Police were injured, the damage caused to be building, the violent breaking into the building, and the zip ties taken with them (as seen in the pictures), is all that is all that is necessary to bring charges against the insurrectionists. Of course, guns, ammunition, and bombs were also found in cars and trucks.
Clearly they weren't there to have tea and discuss the relevant issues of the day with their representatives. Their intent was to disrupt the counting and entering of the electoral votes for Biden, to disrupt democracy itself, and potentially harm the members of Congress. What do you think would have happened if they found Pelosi or AOC in the Capitol?
Obviously not all Republicans supported the insurrection on January 6; only the crazy fringe on the far right were involved (including Q, Proud Boys, and Oath Keepers, and others caught up in it).
If some of the insurrections are proven to be Antifa or from the left claiming that they were Trump supporters, of course I would condemn them. But there is absolutely no evidence of it and there has never been any evidence of it.
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shoot some links if you can
been off watching hallmark channel 24/7 since the election and falling a little behind
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The Majority of the Republican party is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. lol
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@ Flash911
So the fact that Jadyen X was taking pictures and filming the insurrectionists says what exactly?
I know nothing about Jadyen X, but what you wrote proves absolutely nothing and no inferences can be made from him being at the Capitol taking pictures and video of what the rioters were doing. If you happen to be filming the crowd that day as he did, would you be considered part of the rioters?
Republican politicians are desperate to pin the insurrection on Democrats, yet I haven't never heard a single one bringing up Jadyen X as the fall guy for Republican insurrectionists. Even they won't make such a ridiculous assertion.
Please stick to discussing Porsche with me.
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every conservative on this board, ME included, have said throw all those fuckers in JAIL
shoot them for all I care
are you thinking WE were for this? condoned it?
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No, I don’t think anyone on this board condoned it. At least I hope not and that is not what I suggested by any of my posts.
Posts that accused Antifa and others from the left of being involved in the insurrection is what is annoying. Those assertions have never been supported by any facts. The gaslighting is annoying.
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there is a big agenda going on with this insurrection on both political sides
I'm trying not to follow this shit btw
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Here you go MA:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/video-analysis-of-ashli-babbit-video-suggests-coordinated-actions-interview-with-masako_3652783.html
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"John Sullivan was arrested and charged on January 14th, according to the Department of Justice, with “one count of knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, one count of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds, and one count of interfering with law enforcement engaged in the lawful performance of their official duties incident to and during the commission of civil disorder.” An FBI affidavit discounts Sullivan’s claim to be a journalist: “He has admitted,” the agent writes of Sullivan, “that he has no press credentials and the investigation has not revealed any connection between SULLIVAN and any journalistic organizations.” Rolling Stone published the piece below on the morning of January 13th."
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@MA don't say it didn't happen ...
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Here is the criminal complaint and arrest warrant for John Earl Sullivan aka JaydenX, from the DOJ website:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1354781/download
And yes, he wore a MAGA hat on the way in.
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"Posts that accused Antifa and others from the left of being involved in the insurrection is what is annoying. Those assertions have never been supported by any facts. The gaslighting is annoying."
Get off your lazy ass MA and do your own research next time.
Or stick to Porches.
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Just so you know, I’ve never heard of the guy until you mentioned him today. I am not an Antifa supporter, I’m not progressive, and I’m not even a Democrat. I’m Independent. I typically argue against conservatives because the Republican party is shit right now. And describing it as “shit” is being generous.
Additionally, it seems like BLM and the left are not aligned with Jayden X either. See the linked article.
So, what’s your point? That this JaydenX’s involvement is proof that the insurrection was organized and carried out by Antifa and the left? We both know that’s ridiculous. Even the implication is gaslighting.
Believe me, I’d rather discuss Porsches. These discussions are just stupid and a waste of time. Maybe focus more on the Right’s crazy fringe groups that are the actual domestic terrorists.
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I think the point people are trying to make is that this was NOT a Trump organized and carried out ARMED Insurrection.
None of the people arrested were carrying firearms. So the 'weapons' were bear spray, a flag pole, and I guess the horns on the buffalo headpiece of the dude who was in the Assembly chamber.....
There have only been a small handful (40) people who have had assault charges against them...the rest are trespassing and disorderly conduct.
The gaslighting has come from the left painting this as this huge armed insurrection. The only firearm discharged was the Capitol police man who shot an unarmed woman. Spin it all you want, but there was far more violence for the past year in dozens of cities around the country.
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My point is clear, and you missed it. You said there was no one on the left involved; that it was gaslighting. This is simply not true. The dude runs a group called Insurrection USA. He has YT videos out riling up a crowd chanting "Revolution". He is on the left. He was there on the 6th, busted a window from inside the Capitol. Pretending to be a journalist, which the FBI debunked, he filmed clickbait videos - where a young lady lost her life - simply to get paid. He was also paid $35k each by CNN and NBC. Contract was signed morning of the 6th which means coordination with MSM and prior planning of some sort.
He arrested and will be prosecuted by the DOJ, although I sense he will get off easy compared to some.
There were other elements on the left involved on Jan 6th, posing as Trump supporters. Well documented, filmed and posted on Twitter.
No soup for you ...
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Jazz51,
In some ways I agree with what you wrote, except the left isn’t gaslighting. By focusing on the word “armed”, you’re missing the whole point of why the insurrection took place to begin with.
Armed doesn’t necessarily equate to firearms. Again, you can be armed with a fork and still be prosecuted if you stab someone with it.
And the insurrection was obviously fomented by Trump over many months by lying about the “big steal”. Trump’s followers, you know, the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and others being prosecuted, have alleged that they did it for Trump and felt that is what he wanted.
The evidence was clearly presented at the second impeachment hearing and Mitch McConnell said that Trump was “practically and morally responsible” for the insurrection.
But please, feel free to continue trying to rewrite history.
Lastly, domestic terrorism is largely a problem with the extreme right. However, those on the left who stole, damaged property, set fires, etc., must also be prosecuted.
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the LEFT and LIBERAL want this painted as bad as possible so they can ram their NEW domestic terrorist policies thru...with all the NEW bells, whistles and control
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REMEMBER...WE are all saying put those fuckers in jail...shoot em for all i care
where's this headed?
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speaking of invites...
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The problem is that is was really bad. Imagine if they did get a hold of a few Democrats like Pelosi and AOC. Things could have gotten a lot worse, and the fact that the next 3 in line to the Presidency were at the Capitol during the insurrection, and were in jeopardy, is insane.
The lack of response by the national guard and military needs to be investigated thoroughly.
And members of Congress who may have helped the insurrectionists must be investigated as well.
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every fucking thing about the left is dishonest/contrived...all in the name of POWER...never to lose another election again.
this is all part of the overall master plan...117k unaccompanied are on their way....though in a little chain migration, citizenship....that's a shit load of voters
now if you can place them in the exact states needed with a job...that means you win all the swing states every time
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The left and liberal know that the first warning signs in Jan 6th went on ignored as “a farce”, and are taking no chances with Trumptards who believe anything that will bring Trump back to power.
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let's have an independent investigation
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@ISOS
"every fucking thing about the left is dishonest/contrived...all in the name of POWER...never to lose another election again."
I'm sure that you're being fed lies to make the left out to be dishonest and contrived, but you should know the facts:
1. Since losing the House, the Senate, and the Presidency, Republicans are doing everything they can to limit Democrats from legitimately voting.
2. A Republican lawyer arguing in front of the Supreme Court admitted the restrictions they sought in Arizona were to help Republicans win elections. The restrictions were struck down before for affecting minorities disproportionately (which was obviously intentional). There must be a legitimate basis for restrictions to voting, not to favor one party over the other.
3. Rather than appeal to a wider electoral base, the Republicans prefer to focus on its current base while restricting Democrats from voting. Unless Republicans appeal to independents and Democrats to vote for them, it is literally impossible for Republicans to win the Presidency since there are fewer people who vote Republican than Democrat.
4. The way to keep the Republican base motivated to keep voting Republican is to instill fear into them; to demonize Democrats as much as possible, mostly without any legitimate basis.
You know that I think you're a good guy despite our political differences. The problem is that I think the media you see is so one-sided that you perceive the left to be far worse than it really is. The media on the left also has its biases, but nowhere near as much as conservative right media. I am happy to criticize Democrats when they deserve it.
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This is just my own opinion but from the way this new administration has swung so far left I dont think Republicans have to "reach out" to moderate Democrats.
Even James Carville said last year.. "have we lost our freaking minds" in regards to the radical left focus of the Democrat party.
But look at what's happening... all of our worst nightmares coming to fruition.
Democrats are stooping lower to appeal to aliens while dissing the American taxpayer.
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Speaking of terrorism, those Republican governors in Texas, Missouri, Iowa, Montana, North Dakota would cause more casualty than any terrorism acts combined if they remove mask mandate NOW, and allow all the businesses to operate at full capacity, by ignoring CDC guidelines and warnings about "the potential resurge", only to say that it is a matter of personal responsibility.
We already saw a massive casualty of more than a half million Americans (it is a grave situation considering the US infection and death rates is about 20 percent in the world where as US population is just 4% of the world), and Trump was the one who showed his base that wearing masks and keep a social distance is not required.
It is staggering considering no republicans felt guilty for killing those who were victimized by the virus.
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Rahcrener, Florida is a very populous state, they have been open for months, SD never closed any businesses. Get out and look around, lockdowns don't work.
If people want to wear a mask, let them, but it's time for people to be responsible themselves...
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"The gaslighting has come from the left painting this as this huge armed insurrection. The only firearm discharged was the Capitol police man who shot an unarmed woman. Spin it all you want, but there was far more violence for the past year in dozens of cities around the country."
It's amazing that you think you see the spin so easily coming from the left, but you are totally blind to your own spin. Such a lack of awareness.
You're not the only one though.
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Bringing up the Antifa and BLM protests when discussing the Capitol protest = whataboutism.
Not that they aren't problems either, but you're trying to diminish the seriousness of the Capitol protests by raising another issue.
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"lockdowns don't work"
In what way did they not work? Do you even understand the purpose of lockdowns?
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Florida cooks the books with regards to reporting COVID data. DeSantis is just another wannabe Trump.
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FDT, Fck Maga and Qtards....Sheep Keep those donations up to your Orange master!
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