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Night-Rider
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Locked. No further comments permitted.Another bad week for Biden? (Part 2)
Mar 22 2021 03:57PM more by Night-Rider
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After spending 2 trillion dollars on a COVID relief bill that contained items not directed towards COVID relief, Biden is planning on spending another 3 trillion on narrowing economic inequality, reducing carbon emissions, and improving American manufacturing, beginning with an infrastructure bill, which would include universal pre-K. This would include a change in the structuring of taxes.

I don't mind the goals associated with this (although the proportion of spending for some of these may be out of whack), but aren't we simply spending too much money? I mean, will this bill pay for itself, or are we really putting ourselves behind the "8 ball" in terms of debt? Also, could too much spending right now hurt the economy?

Also, what's going on at the border? "Some immigrants said they were being released inside the U.S. without knowing how they will be contacted to appear for their asylum hearings." Border patrol is at least screening these guys and not releasing illegal immigrants if these pose a national security risk or a risk to public safety. It seems like a mess. How much of this mess has to do with difficulties handling a large surge at the border versus being the Biden administration's fault? According to Mitt Romney, Biden deserves some blame: "The Biden administration’s lack of understanding of the power of incentives continues to baffle me: allowing unaccompanied minors to stay in the U.S. will yield a flood of unaccompanied minors. It’s de facto ‘child separation policy’."

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Kayman
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Mar 22 2021 04:32PM     link to this

Well look on the bright side, at least the illegal immigrants
who are being let in have to test negative for COVID...
They are getting tested for COVID, right?
Ya know, the worst public health threat in the past century
that we have closed our economy for and have had our
civil rights thrown out the window to fight
Or am I being racist?
Night-Rider
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Mar 22 2021 04:53PM     link to this

^You know, I was beginning to model the effect the addition of illegal immigrants with and without COVID (don't forget they are susceptible) would have on number of deaths in our country or in Texas. Based on the numbers that arrived in January and February, and assuming that immigrants mix well either in the entire US or Texas, I don't believe the numbers that have come in would be high enough to make a significant change to the US or Texas death rate. That's just a guess, so I was going to test that in a model. If the immigrants tend to stay localized, they would only affect others if their transmission rate was higher than what's in the community at large and if they frequently come into contact with others.
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Mar 22 2021 05:08PM     link to this

But they are being loaded onto busses and transported elsewhere. see the map showing many of the anticipated sites for sending the immigrants.

Further, when Biden did away with the Remain in Mexico, there are thousands of asylum seekers from past years who will re enter the U.S. along the CA border, as many were sent to Baja California.

So the transmission rate of those crossing will most likely be greater than many of the locations you see on the map.
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Chucklaylo
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Mar 22 2021 05:14PM     link to this

Will predict we have 4 years of blogs with this title.
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Mar 22 2021 06:54PM     link to this

"The Biden administration’s lack of understanding of the power of incentives continues to baffle me: allowing unaccompanied minors to stay in the U.S. will yield a flood of unaccompanied minors. It’s de facto ‘child separation policy."

You cant say it much better than that.

Prior the Biden we had an administration who almost completed the wall, allowed asylum seekers to remain in Mexico until the asylum claims are adjudicated. This keeps the border secure from nefarious forces but also fostered legal immigration to happen.

What we have now is not only a mess hearding towards catastrophe but it "undoes" a working policy. Absolutely mind boggling.



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Mar 23 2021 07:39AM     link to this

In the past year we have created over 20 percent of every US dollar

Any economizers out there that can break this down?
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Kayman
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Mar 23 2021 07:43AM     link to this

Any Asians out there who can help with my math homework?
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Mar 23 2021 08:08AM     link to this

Trump did not encourage legal immigration. In fact, many asylum stations on the border were closed under his administration, forcing asylum seekers to go hundreds of miles further or risk illegal crossings.

Immigration is both parties' favorite thing to argue about, but they never come up with a reasonable compromise.

The Republicans use it to whip up the base, and they don't really want to stop illegal immigration because so many business owners hire illegals on the cheap. Plus, they know that the browning of America erodes their voting base.

Some Democrats don't want a reasonable solution, because the unions don't want a flood of cheap labor into the US (like they are not here already?). But they would like the votes.
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Mar 23 2021 01:47PM     link to this

You know what's sad about all this money being thrown around?

The fact that the USA, the richest country in the history of human kind still does not have any kind of base line healthcare for its citizens.


Only developed country on earth that lets you go broke if you get sick.


All those people that lost their healthcare (during a pandemic) when they lost their job because of Rona.


Even Vietnam kicked the US's ass on this.



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Mar 23 2021 03:51PM     link to this

Did you know that 1 in 3 Go fund me ad's are about medical debt/costs?





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Mar 24 2021 08:38AM     link to this

Zeros....you do realize people have some control of this.

They can get an education and get a job that provides benefits.

But many workers are opting NOT to take the health care since they don't want to even pay 25% of the premium. We are a country of freedom...some workers are choosing NOT to buy health care insurance. Millions of people opted to pay the fine rather than purchase Obamacare during the Obama era. They were opting to have more money in their own pockets.

But when something significant happens, then they realize they made a bad choice, took a bad gamble and now want someone to bail them out.

46% of Americans do not own life insurance policies, so they are banking on living and not necessarily providing for their loved ones into the future.

These are the choices people make and they must take the consequences of them.

jazz51
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Mar 24 2021 08:42AM     link to this

I find it ironic that people can't see the 'big picture'.

If there are fewer workers coming into this country, the companies would be in competition for labor. That would mean they would have to give increased wages and benefits, which would help many of those who feel they cannot afford health care.

But by bringing in more workers at the bottom of the wage level, that helps depress benefits and raises. Why would I pay more wage or benefits if there is someone in line for a job......

We are actually starting to see wage growth right before the pandemic.....for this very reason, less flooding of the U.S. by illegal immigrants.
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Mar 24 2021 09:08AM     link to this

Unemployment is up.

We have hundreds of thousands of destitute, jobless people living on the streets. Nobody has a plan to do anything about it.

Yet this administration encourages millions of destitute from other countries to come here.

Whatever happened to taking care of our own?

What is happening looks insane to me.
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Mar 24 2021 10:03AM     link to this

Chuck....they see more dependent voters who will vote Democrat....to keep getting more free shit.
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Mar 24 2021 10:53AM     link to this

Yep...keep piling on the debt. People get a few bucks in their pockets and all of us get to bend over and get fucked paying the interest on trillions of give aways.....The debt service on the past Covid-19 stimulus packages will be over $900 annually for every taxpayer in the U.S. That is just the Treasury Note interest....and does NOTHING with the principal.

We don't get to just print money.....we sell Treasury notes for that money and pay the interest over time....

And this dumb fuck wants another $3 trilliion.

Hell, I won't live long enough to really get fucked....but those of you who are younger better get ready for a lifelong payment of overboard spending...
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Mar 24 2021 12:37PM     link to this

Raise the debt significantly to give trillions to richest 0.1% and major corporations when the economy is great. We support it!!!

Raise the debt to help fight Covid, help families, help schools reopen. OMG the debt!!!

Why was everyone cool with raising the debt when it was under Trump for things that economists say are not healthy for the economy....but then complain when the debt is raised under a democrat for things that economists say do help the economy? Wait a second.....
jazz51
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Mar 24 2021 01:03PM     link to this

Biden has raised the debt more in 60 days than Trump did is his first 3 years.
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Mar 24 2021 01:04PM     link to this

Especially if he gets his new $3 trillion bill rammed down our throats.
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Mar 24 2021 01:05PM     link to this

Raise the debt to help fight Covid, help families, help schools reopen. OMG the debt!!!

And please share how much of the $2 trillion actually goes to those items.....????

Like 10%.....the other 90% is blown on bullshit.....
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Mar 24 2021 02:27PM     link to this

Don't worry about the debt, you won't have to pay it off.

Your grandchildren will.
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Mar 24 2021 03:15PM     link to this

I predict more misery to come for many, unfortunately.
HX seems to be one of the few places, you can express
your opinion without being cancelled.
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Mar 24 2021 03:19PM     link to this

Of course, the President of Mexico blames Biden...said he created 'expectations'.....duh

What is so difficult to figure out....

Come to the border, say you are seeking asylum, get free education, medical and incentive payments.....and then become a citizen entitled to welfare, food stamps, housing, medical, etc.
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Mar 24 2021 03:26PM     link to this

When I retire in a couple years, I'm going fl y to Mexico, Vacation for a few weeks, then cross the border on foot to seek asylum in the US. Oh, all of the free benefits I will have in addition to my retirement funds..
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Mar 24 2021 03:57PM     link to this

Biden needs to stay out kitchen if he cant take the heat. He also needs confidence n faith. He scary cant handle pressure. Trump was gonna build wall stop crime n make more jobs he just was ghetto about it. Dont get me wrong trump is wrong but the main problems the addressing he was fixing
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Mar 24 2021 11:05PM     link to this

Did you know millions of people live on very low wages?

You cannot rent a 1 bedroom apartment anywhere in the US on minimum wage.

How do you expect these people to afford health insurance.

Even $1k a month coverage doesn't really cover shit.



Don't you think that the richest country in all of history should provide some kind of base line health care for its citizens?

Do you not think that its kind of embarrassing that the US is the only developed nation to not provide guaranteed sick leave?




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Mar 24 2021 11:10PM     link to this

What a strange concept: "we need a system that values human life over profit." If anyone believes that our system does value human life, sorry, but you are wrong. The pandemic has proven, without a doubt, that our system will always choose money over life. This is inherently evil.
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Mar 25 2021 01:11AM     link to this

No I don't. Start low on a job and move up to better job... Pretty simple.
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Mar 25 2021 07:08AM     link to this

“Raise the debt significantly to give trillions to richest 0.1% and major corporations when the economy is great.”

LOL... you equate giving “trillions” to the richest 0.1% and corporations with not taking “trillions” from people with big ideas and the corporations that make them happen.
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Mar 25 2021 09:06AM     link to this

I have the laugh at the naiivete of anyone that believe in 10 years we will be singing the praises of those that gave 1.9 trillion away and praising the robust economy we will be living in because of all that stimulus that got spent. You are fools for thinking as much and quite honestly you know it but ya just don't care.
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Mar 25 2021 10:18AM     link to this

Each taxpayer will bend over and give the government over $900 annually to cover the debt service on the stimulus money that is already allocated....not to mention the next round Joe is considering.

Thanks correct, just to cover the Treasury Note interest on that money, every taxpayer will be on the hook for over $900 each year....forever, since we will make no impact on the principal.
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Mar 25 2021 10:20AM     link to this

So figure out how much those $1200 and $1400 stimulus checks will REALLY cost you over the long run....but, hey, the Dems were never ones to deal with math.....because we all know the government must fucking prints money......
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Mar 25 2021 11:49AM     link to this

We need a new Amendment relater to how much Congress and a Presidents administration can spend in a 4 year term. MAX $2T and you need to get reelected and "pass go" before another shit for brains spending spree is allowed.

We are headed towards $5T in first 100 days of this Potato's residency.
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Mar 25 2021 01:31PM     link to this

Yes, Potato head tosses around Trillion like it is nothing......

We accumulated about 5 trillion in total debt from
1790 until 1995....two hundred and 5 years of our countries existence and that includes multiple World Wars, the Great Depression, etc..

This dumb fuck is going to rack up that amount in less than 3 months.....

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Mar 25 2021 02:13PM     link to this

Trillions in debt.

Billionaires got big increases during a pandemic while the average American suffers.


Meanwhile something like insulin costs $20 in Canada and $300 here for the exact same thing.



Ironic that the 2 guys who invented insulin sold it to a university for $1 instead of trying to profit off it.

Unfortunately it was licensed to American drug companies and it turned into just another way to generate profits.


This is just one drug, this happens with many drugs.


No one on this site really gives a fuck about this because you got yours right? Fuck everyone else.


This is the mentality of those that pretend to be in the same club as the parasites that controls this shit show country.




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Mar 25 2021 02:17PM     link to this

Of course, you do understand that Trump signed the Most Favored Nation Executive Order on Drug Prices.....but hey, don't let good stuff like that mess up your narrative.
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Mar 25 2021 02:35PM     link to this

And miraculously the dysfunctional healthcare system was fixed!


Oh wait, it wasn't.


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Mar 25 2021 02:52PM     link to this

No, it wasn't fixed...but once again, please follow your own comments...you were bitching about prescription prices and I was responding....but hey, pull something else out of your ass.....like border security that is perfect now.
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Mar 25 2021 03:29PM     link to this

Its not just out of my ass.

There are millions of people in this country that are getting crushed by this system. I guess its out of their ass's too.


Getting thrown off their healthcare in the middle of a pandemic is all their fault.


The system works for you, so fuck them!







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Mar 25 2021 03:45PM     link to this

No....they are getting 1400 and will pay for decades to come.

The amount of money actually going where it is needed is small. The Dems had to give millions to the State of CA.....why, cause Numbnuts shut down our hospitality industry, our unemployment numbers skyrocketed, but our net income is fine...we have a fucking surplus and will get millions....but not for the people for dipshits in Sacto to decide.

Read the entire text of that bill and see all of the crap that was loaded into it....it isn't going to the little guy.....but go ahead and believe what they are telling you.....here you go...get your $1400 and like it.
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Mar 25 2021 03:58PM     link to this

Wake the fuck up....do the math.

The IRS is sending stimulus checks to up to 30 million taxpayers.

Take our your calculator and 30 million times $1400 is 42 billion......you do know that a trillion is 1,000 billion, so 1.9 trillion is 1,900 billion. So the people get 42 billion and there is another 1,858 billion to spend on other shit.....so the people get stimulus checks that amount to 2% of that 1.9 trillion....

Am I making sense.....People who are getting stimulus checks are getting fucked, because they will pay taxes for the rest of their lives paying the interest on that $1400....

But Joe and the Dems have you believing they are doing you a favor....



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Mar 25 2021 04:00PM     link to this

And paying interest on the other $1.858 trillion that they didn't even see........
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Mar 25 2021 04:33PM     link to this

Bad week? It's gonna be a bad, but short presidency.

Joe's a tard. But just wait until Kamel Balls gets in...holy fucking shit!
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Mar 25 2021 04:54PM     link to this

80 million people actually voted for those two.....I will have to start wearing my t-shirt more that says, Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy.
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Mar 25 2021 04:57PM     link to this

The American dream is to be rich enough to be able to ignore its glaring problems at the expense of others.


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Mar 25 2021 05:01PM     link to this

What glaring problems do we have....??

No one is guaranteed anything....we all have 'opportunity' Some make the most of that opportunity and some squander that opportunity. Talk with some immigrants who came here legally....listen to what they say about the chance they got to succeed.

If you drop out and do not get a decent education or a skill, you cannot expect to make millions or even expect to do better than a little above minimum wage.
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Mar 25 2021 06:41PM     link to this

What glaring problems do we have....??

Only country in the developed world that does not have guaranteed:

Paid sick leave.
Maternity leave.
Vacation days.
Health care.



None of these things are guaranteed here. It entirely depends on the company you work for.

We pay more in taxes and fees than other "socialized" countries and receive less services.

Socialism is bad unless we are socializing the Walton family's fortunes by subsidizing their employees health benefits.

God forbid you get sick with no health care because you lost your job due to the pandemic.


No problem here!

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