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Per the EEOC, a federal government agency dealing with equal rights in employee/employer laws, employers requiring employees to be vaccinated against COVID 19 is permissible...
But it’s really better to make it a suggestion. Requirements require written policies and exemptions and ADA and HIPPA and privacy and... and... and...
For what the law actually states, or perhaps better stated what the government’s interpretation of the law states, is in the attached link.
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Here's the bottomline...
If you do not want to take it = Great, that's your individual decision...
I advocate that Pfizer is to be trusted, it is truly one of the greatest American companies ever...
Established in 1849, so in 2049 they'll be a 200 year old company... Started in NYC and are still have their headquarters in NYC, and have annual sales over 50 BILLION dollars, and have over 10 BILLION dollars cash on hand... They take zero dollars from the government to research and develop the most advanced medications in the world...
You can go their website, and see their historical products brought to the market, as it would take me hours to type all of them, and most are common household names, because what they bring to the market is commonly used by the masses... I have done business with Pfizer for over 25 years now, and Pfizer does what they say they'll do, and believe me that is a rare attribute of any large scale company...
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This letter was posted on the Frontline Doctors website for forced Vax at Universities:
Date: April 12, 2021
To: Whom It May Concern:
Re: Covid-19 Experimental Vaccine Candidates
Any compulsory Covid-19 vaccination requirement is a violation of federal law. I urge you to advise all students that they have the right to refuse or to take any COVID-19 vaccine. Any other action is contrary to federal law.
Covid-19 Vaccines are Experimental.
Covid-19 vaccines are not approved by the FDA. The Covid-19 vaccines are only approved under an Emergency Use Authorization, for investigational use only. Covid-19 vaccines lack requisite studies and are not approved medical treatment. The FDA’s guidance on emergency use authorization of medical products requires the FDA to “ensure that recipients are informed to the extent practicable given the applicable circumstances … That they have the option to accept or refuse the EUA product …”
Title 21, Section 360bbb-3 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the “FD&C Act”) vests the Secretary of Health and Human Services with the permissive authority to grant Emergency Use Authorizations (“EUAs”) providing that appropriate conditions designed to ensure that individuals to whom the product is administered are informed:
1. that the Secretary has authorized the emergency use of the product;
2. of the significant known and potential benefits and risks of such use, and of the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown; and
3. of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks. 1
The right to avoid the imposition of human experimentation is fundamental, rooted in the Nuremberg Code of 1947, has been ratified by the 1964 Declaration of Helsinki, and further codified in the United States Code of Federal Regulations. In addition to the United States regarding itself as bound by these provisions, these principles were adopted by the FDA in its regulations requiring the informed consent of human subjects for medical research. It is unlawful to conduct medical research, even in the case of an emergency, unless steps are taken to secure informed consent of all participants.
The following Emergency Use Authorizations have been issued for Covid-19 vaccinations:
12/11/20 Moderna - FDA issued an EUA for emergency use of the Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccine for recipients 16 years of age or older.
12/18/20 Pfizer/BioNTech - FDA issued an EUA for emergency use of the Pfizer/BioNTech mRNA vaccine for recipients 18 years of age or older.
2/27/21 Johnson & Johnson - FDA issued an EUA for emergency use of the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine (aka Janssen vaccine) for recipients 18 years of age or older.
Each of the above EUAs was issued in conjunction with a similar Fact Sheet from the FDA. For example, the Janssen fact sheet contains the following notice:
“INFORMATION TO PROVIDE TO VACCINE RECIPIENTS/CAREGIVERS”
As the vaccination provider, you must communicate to the recipient or their caregiver, information consistent with the “Fact Sheet for Recipients and Caregivers” (and provide a copy or direct the individual to the website to obtain the Fact Sheet) prior to the individual receiving the Janssen Covid-19 Vaccine, including:
• FDA has authorized the emergency use of the Janssen Covid-19 Vaccine, which is not an FDA approved vaccine.
• The recipient or their caregiver has the option to accept or refuse the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine.
• The significant known and potential risks and benefits of the Janssen Covid-19 Vaccine, and the extent to which such risks and benefits are unknown.
Clearly, any attempt to force anyone to take a Covid-19 vaccine is a violation of federal law and the conditions under which the Covid-19 vaccine has been authorized for use. The law is clear, experimental medical treatment cannot be mandated.
Businesses are not shielded from liability with experimental agents.
Under the 2005 PREP Act enacted by Congress, pharmaceutical companies that manufacture EUA vaccines are shielded from liability related to injuries and damages caused by their experimental agents. However, any employer, public school, or any other entity or person who mandates experimental vaccines on any human being is not protected from liability for any resulting harm. While vaccine manufacturers may be shielded from liability, your institution is not protected, and neither are you.
You are hereby on notice that if you illegally or irresponsibly mandate EUA medical therapies on students, such as the experimental Covid-19 vaccine candidates, I may have no choice but to take legal action, and you may be personally liable for resulting harm.
I urge your institution to comply with the FD&C Act and the terms of the EUA and its accompanying Fact Sheet, and to advise all employees of their right to accept or refuse any Covid-19 vaccine. Any other course of action is contrary to federal law.
Thank you for your time and for protecting the best interest of your students.
Sincerely,
Sign Name Here
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when I went to go get my vaccine I was told to pull down my pants and underwear and spread my butt cheeks. I then felt a sharp pain in my ass. My ass was sore for a few days but no other side effects.
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Sure you have the right to refuse to take the vaccine, but is that the smart choice?
I pay close attention to the actions of people I respect as having good judgment and who may have more information than me. I personally know dozens of doctors, lawyers, and other professionals, as well as many people worth tens of millions up to $4 billion. Many of them are life-long Republicans and some have even denied the severity of the pandemic. However...
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN VACCINATED. EVERY ONE OF THEM.
These are people who are smart and have access to the best information. Their ultimate goal is self preservation. They recognize that the risk of dying and getting serious, permanent damage to your neurological system, lungs, and other organs is much, much worse if you get Covid than from any potential side effects from the vaccine.
Of the 100+ million who are fully vaccinate in this country, only 1,300 have had "break through" Covid infections.
The needle is practically painless because it is so thin.
The risk of side effects is unbelievably small.
Even Donald J Trump was vaccinated in early January at the White House before he left office.
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I've taken the vaccine(s) because it makes sense... but: my body, my choice.
Or is that only for chicks?
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The OP and Crane_op are wrong as usual.
“ The Supreme Court held in the landmark 1905 case Jacobson v. Massachusetts that states have the authority to order compulsory vaccination when there is a threat of epidemic. Similarly, courts have consistently upheld mandatory quarantines if they are not carried out in an arbitrary or unreasonable manner.”
“ There is, of course, a sphere within which the individual may assert the supremacy of his own will and rightfully dispute the authority of any human government, especially of any free government existing under a written constitution. But it is equally true that in every well-ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand.”
- Supreme Court Justice Harlan
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I'll take it IF you can answer 1 question: What are the long term effects?
Other then that thanks but no thanks.
And phizer and moderna are SCUM companies that have both been ruled exempt from any law suits due to long term effects of the 'vaccine'.
If it's so safe ... why the exemption?
They're also the 2 companies that have been sued the most for health fraud violations.
Take if you want, but quit trying to force or shame other people into taking it who've decided it's not for them.
And don't start crying and whining if/when side effects start showing up in 3-5 years.
Atticus Finch
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'The OP and Crane_op are wrong as usual.'
Actually they're not.
Under those circumstances the government could only mandate you to take an FDA APPROVED vaccine.
They can't mandate you to take a 'vaccine' that has been implemented for 'emergency use only'. THAT, is essentially using the populace as guinea pigs and unlawful under the Nuremberg Code of 1947 which has been adopted and recognized by federal government as law.
Atticus Finch
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Good luck, Atticus Finch.
Guess all of the doctors I know who got vaccinated, and who had their families get vaccinated, are taking an unnecessary risk and are risking the lives of their loved ones. Smart.
I spoke with a guy I’m doing business with in a Southern state who told me that he received his first shot last Tuesday, so I asked him why he wait. He said that some of the people he knows convinced him not to get it but he changed his mind after two of his close friends got Covid and one may not survive.
You think the risk of side effects from the vaccine is greater than the risk of dying from Covid at the age of 60?
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'You think the risk of side effects from the vaccine is greater than the risk of dying from Covid at the age of 60?'
Actually ... Yes.
I don't care that a handful of gp's took it, mine hasn't BTW and says him AND his family are not taking it.
And no, I'm not and haven't required my employees to take, nor will I, and we've been working straight through the lockdowns. How many have gotten it? - ZERO.
Good luck but don't cry and whine if it turns out that the long term effects of the cure are worse then the disease.
Atticus Finch
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America's Frontline Doctors:
Oh the mighty smart ones:
Dr. Steve LaTulippe: Doctor, specializes in pain management. Has license suspended in Oregon.
Dr. Teryn Clarke: Doctor. Neurology
Dr. Lynn Fynn: Can't find shit about her online. No image matches, no colleges, no research, no practice. Just a twitter account.
Dr. Kathleen A. Cullen: Doctor, Internal Medicine. Probably the closest to being qualified.
Dr. Pam Shervanick: Psychiatrist. Ok...
Dr. Lee Merritt: Orthopedic Surgeon
Oh and they have a Rabbi... because. You know. Why not.
If anyone has any real non-twitter info on Dr. Lynn Fynn I'd be interested.
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fauci's a lier and a fraud. In almost every congressional hearing, especially when it's Paul doing the questioning, he becomes more of a lawyer then a dr. trying to redirect and obfuscate from the fact that he's giving grants to researchers doing 'gain of function' research.
He, fauci, has been pushing 'gain of function' research and that's what woohan was doing - research on genetically engineering covid in bats to attack human cells. Why? Because that's how these researchers make their bones.
And now it's becoming more and more apparent that this thing didn't occur naturally but is an 'escape' from ... woohan lab.
It's the only explanation that makes sense and faci is directly tied to it by giving a $6 mil grant to eco health who then gave $300 grand to woohan.
Atticus Finch
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"'You think the risk of side effects from the vaccine is greater than the risk of dying from Covid at the age of 60?'
Actually ... Yes."
Where's your evidence for that, or is it just your bullshit ideology talking?
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"He, fauci, has been pushing 'gain of function' research and that's what woohan was doing - research on genetically engineering covid in bats to attack human cells. Why? Because that's how these researchers make their bones."
I suggest you read the research and then ask yourself if scientists were engineering viruses to make them more virulent and transmissible, which is the type of gain of function experiments that the US doesn't allow anymore.
Here, I'll even link the research article for you...
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'Where's your evidence for that, or is it just your bullshit ideology talking?'
Like your bullshit?).gif)
No.
It's actually common sense, you should look it up.
It takes on average 10 years for a vaccine to under go rigorous R & D and testing before it goes to through the approval process. That's why these AREN'T approved.
You actually believe they got EVERYTHING right in less then 9 months?
Take don't take it but don't try and force others that have decided not to to take with a bullshit reason like for the greater good, heard immunity etcetc.
Atticus Finch
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"'You think the risk of side effects from the vaccine is greater than the risk of dying from Covid at the age of 60?'
Actually ... Yes."
Where's your evidence for that, or is it just your bullshit ideology talking?
MA and NR on the same side again, lol
The virus has a, what 99.7% survivability rate for those UNDER 70.
So far the VAX, according to Vears:
3,837 deaths
10, 715 hospitalizations
213 miscarriages
21,623 urgent care visits.
Historically Vaccines get pulled in trials after 50 deaths. Where's the MSM on that?
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Further, if mRNA, Spike proteins and gene therapy is SO GREAT for (mutating) Corona Viruses, why have they never been authorized for use previously yet rushed this time?
What's the deal with all the vax-related blood clots?
What's up with vaccine shedding? Does that sound healthy to you??
Why the warnings for pregnant women and potential reproductive issues?
It's clear, one side says do what you want it's a free country. The other has their hair on fire and insists everyone take this vaccine. Does that really sound prudent to you?
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Where were you people when boss Trump was pushing through project warp speed? You were all praising him. You all got pissed when you thought Biden was taking credit for vaccine. Now, you act like it's full of "chemtrails" or something.
You guys are hilarious.
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The vaccine was for the old folks and persons with health problems.
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Where does it say that?
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Bwana I know it's great liberal fun to drag POTUS Trump into every single conversation, but this blog is about the ethics of forcing people to take the VAX.
The issue transcends who ever is the current occupant of the Oval Office.
I perceive you to be a smart guy so I know you remember prominent lefties making same claims about not taking the VAX before the election.
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Are you kidding, this blog is all over the place!
nice dodge, though!
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You guys all crack me up. LOL
At this point no one is changing anyone’s mind with facts or anything like that. I think we’re pretty much at the point where the folks that are going to get vaccinated have, and those that haven’t never will. I feel for those that don’t have the option because of valid medical conditions, but they are a small percentage. Let’s just get back to normal and let the chips fall where they may. I hope no one that refused the vaccine dies from the virus, but at this point, their body their choice. I hope I don’t grow a fucking tail in a few years because I took it, but if I do, fuck it. I made a mistake.
I also know that the number attributing thousands of deaths to the vaccines are VERY wrong. But even if they were right, the percentages are still much better when you consider how many people have been vaccinated. But that’s all irrelevant. Like I said. You do you and let’s just get back to normal.
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^ Bravo DB.
This is how Free Men view the world.
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I'm sure some of us seen this coming...
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And the frontline doctors....they've been called out on their spread of mis-information. Link, below.
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I told my employees they could choose between getting vaccine or two weeks severance pay and a good reference from me. No hard feelings either way. They all elected to get the vaccine. You cant force people to do stuff or they will resent it even if its good for them. Better to let them come to their own conclusions.
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Thanks Crane & A F.
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We (the vaccinated) are not worried about us. The vaccines have proven to be safe and highly effective.
We are worried that you (the unvaccinated) may be adversely affected by Covid and the many variants, and if large numbers don’t get vaccinated, we worry that you may be jeopardizing the country opening up and potentially creating another lockdown in the future.
You should worry about spreading Covid to others who are unvaccinated since you may get it and be asymptomatic.
You should also be worried that even if you were unaffected by Covid the first time you got it, you may get infected by a variant that actually does hurt you badly or kills you.
Lastly, I know someone close to me who has to test himself every month for antibodies. He got the second Pfizer vaccine shot in March and his antibodies are still quite strong but dropping, so those who got vaccinated are going to have to eventually get booster shots.
Protecting yourself from something that has killed 600,000 Americans in one year (and that has permanently damaged millions more) should be taken seriously.
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And not to be too insulting, but some of you are simply too dumb to save. We’ve tried to explain things to you in the simplest, most logical way possible and you still don’t do what’s good for you and for society in general.
I hope no one gets Covid, and if you do, that it doesn’t affect you badly. But now you know the risks. Don’t complain if you suffer the consequences of your poor decisions.
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Fortunately most whom I know personally who haven't had the vaccine yet are for two reasons:
1. They don't want to feel like crap for two days after the 2nd dose. It's not a common thing.
2. They hate needles
The rest are either worried about it being effective.
For my day job it's really simple: there's a deadline to be vaccinated. Everyone who fails to meet that goal can find gainful employment anywhere else. No severance pay. The silly legal argument above was squished like a bug. See it all goes right out the door at the part that says "At will"
The nice thing is that there's lots of carrots to get vaccinated: An extra week of paid leave, more free paid leave if you get sick, extended medical coverage, paid leave if you care for family, heck they even paid for travel time.
Oh and the... It'll be 3-5 years before the side effects show up? Oh fucking hell. Get clued in on the side effects of viruses. Some viruses have side effects like: Cancer, long term organ damage, mental illness, latent re-infection, damage to the immune system, reset of the immune system, damage to the nervous system. Not all those show up right away...some take decades.
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"And not to be too insulting, but some of you are simply too dumb to save."
LOL... the truth hurts sometimes. That is.. .unless you are simply too dumb.
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The vaccine isn’t mandatory but if you don’t get it, you the employee at your own expense are required to get tested weekly. If you don’t get the vaccine and refused to get tested, you can’t work for one of the resorts.
No one said a choice doesn’t have consequences.
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If you're vaccinated then you *shouldn't* be worried (typo)
Actually according to this, one, Should one Be. ?
Time will tell. Just remember , they have the Highest payouts on Lawsuits. and next year if one was able to file a suit, how would one prove it ?
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Your source for news is Alex Jones!!! Fucking hilarious!!!
🤪🤪🤪🤪
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@AFMadness
At a minimum, people should be smart enough to know that Alex Jones is an admitted joke and anything he says shouldn't be taken seriously.
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@Heather Look up "at will" employment. States and federal laws supersede it of course but you could get terminated "just because"
However if you piss off enough people you find yourself unable to find more employees.
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get shot or get fucked.
isn't that what we are really here about for
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@ R2d26
In a nutshell, yes.
There is no reasonable, logical reason to avoid the vaccination when the alternative (potentially catching Covid and its various variants) is much worse.
AND society gets to open up completely again sooner.
Unlike most shots, vaccine shots are essentially painless because the needle is so thin. And based on the 300+ people I know who have gotten the vaccine, not a single one had any side effects more than being tired the day after the 2nd shot and a couple women did also experience a headache for an hour or so. Most felt nothing.
I know it might seem odd for someone to care about faceless degenerates who interact on a website (I’ll likely never meet any of the men on this site), but sometimes we need to look out for each other and do the right thing.
Since the active women on this site closely interact with many guys on a regular basis, it’s pure insanity for you to be unvaccinated.
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