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You still have no clue when it comes to making important and relevant criticism of the vaccines.
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Ask yourself this.
Why is it that MORE people died under Biden when the jabs started than under Trump.
This is not political. Trump had the virus for one full year going through the country. The next year in January the jabs were ready and Joe sworn in.
Why is that? More deaths the 2nd year vs 1st?
It was not transmission b/c this spread. And even the 2nd yr had variants not as strong as the original strain.
Now we know....and thanks to Moderna THEY KNEW TOO.
This is Moderna's own study.
URGENT: The most powerful evidence yet that mRNA vaccines hurt long-term immunity to Covid after infection
Unvaccinated people are much more likely to develop broad antibody immunity after Covid infections than people who have received mRNA shots, a new study shows.
The gap remains large whether people had mild, moderate, or severe Covid infections, the study showed - undercutting a crucial argument that vaccine advocates have made to defend the shots.
The research draws on data from Modernas 30,000-person clinical trial for its mRNA shots. It may help explain why so many Americans now suffer multiple Covid infections, sometimes within months.
Researchers already knew that many vaccinated people do not gain antibodies to the entire coronavirus after they are infected with Covid.
Scientists from the National Institutes of Health and Moderna quietly posted the paper a month ago as a pre-print, but it has received little attention despite its import.
The researchers examined the development of anti-nucleocapsid antibodies in people who had been part of Modernas clinical trial and were infected with Covid. As they expected, the scientists found that the vaccinated people were far less likely to develop the anti-nucleocapsid antibodies. Only 40 percent of people who received the shots had antibodies, compared to 93 percent of those who did not.
NOW YOU KNOW WHY.
If you took the jab you had a 60% chance your body would NOT make natural antibodies.
Compare that to 93% of people who did NOT take the jab WOULD make natural antibodies.
NOW YOU KNOW WHY.
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Connect the dots.
Have seen many news reports showing graphs of more people dying under Biden vs Trump.
Now you know why....
The jab STOPS your body from making natural antibodies to fight the virus and its variants.
NOW YOU KNOW.
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And Moderna did the study with 30,000 people.....
NOW YOU KNOW WHY
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You are right NR I do not...nor do I need to.
Moderna did so themselves.....I just got out of the way and reported it.
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how did he come back, did somebody shake the genie?
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It is more likely that the immune system has been primed in the vaccinated case as opposed to the unvaccinated case, so when either case gets the virus, the adaptive immune responses are different. People with the vaccine may not need to mount a robust adaptive immune response from scratch, so the result of that is they end up more often without certain memory cells afterwards.
In fact, it’s likely that at times people — particularly younger ones — only have needed the innate immune response to ward off the virus and don’t produce any memory cells/antibodies afterwards. This isn’t a bad thing, in fact, quite the opposite. This shows an extremely effective response to the virus.
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More propaganda from nr.
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But based on examples from biology, instead of home spun fresh shit out of the toilet and into the web.
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@NR
Amazing how you see life.
Is the sky blue in your world NR....
" I think...."
Well that was your first mistake. Thinking.
The gods that gave you the jabs themselves prove how ineffective they are.
And you still try to spin it.
AMAZING....there are no words.
Stupidity does not even come close.
You now argue AGAINST a study from the same people who made the jab.
Now you say their study is a lie.
Can NOT have it both ways.
Stunning...truly.
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Sherkan
READ the article.
Then READ the study from MODERNA....then come back and comment.
Here let me help you..." Wow....these people are truly evil for making a drug that stops the body from naturally producing antobodies that would fight against variants."
Something like that...at least then I could even come close to taking you seriously.
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The criticism of the vaccine you should be making is that efficacy has kept on going down as we get farther and farther away from the original Wuhan strain. We currently have data that shows vaccine effectiveness against hospitalization decreases to 60% after 10 weeks for the Omicron BA.2 variant.
This may not be correct, or it hasn’t mattered as much as Omicron seems overall less harmful, and we have therapeutics, but an effort to maintain updated vaccines should be made, in case we need to deal with more virulent variants and to make it so people need to only booster yearly.
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Never said the study is a lie. The study is the study. I’m saying I disagree with Alex Berenson’s interpretation of the results.
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H2O
Say it loud
Say it proud
Anyone argues with this is
Wait for it
Obviously
Wait
Racist mo fo's
Your government is trying to kill you
Not Tucker
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
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So Waterdisport22 is writing is that we all would have been better off licking ATM buttons and getting the virus then getting the vaccine.
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Your video clip is taken out of context.
Here is the full 1 hour discussion
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"Never said the study is a lie. The study is the study. I’m saying I disagree with Alex Berenson’s interpretation of the results."
Hey nr, please give us your credentials for your opinion on this.
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"Never said the study is a lie. The study is the study. I’m saying I disagree with Alex Berenson’s interpretation of the results."
Its not just that Angler...
What is so amazing its not Alex's interpretation. The study SAID IT TO BE SO.
Alex is not making this up. That is why I included the LINK from MODERNA's study. Its their people who made this discovery.
Ok...nr now call me a racist. Its coming.....
That is pure insanity. Truly.
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The reduction of antibodies is due to the vaccine likely working well, according to the paper:
“As the viral copy number on the day of the illness visit in mRNA-1273 vaccinated Covid-19 cases has been shown to be 100-fold lower than that in placebo recipient Covid-19 cases,9 the lower anti-N seropositivity in the mRNA-1273 recipients could be partly explained by their reduced exposure to N-antigen. However, strong vaccine effects remain; at 2.0 log10 copies/ml the predicted probability of seroconversion was 0.15 for vaccinated Covid-19-cases compared to 0.71 for placebo recipient Covid-19 cases. This may be due to a difference in the live virus replication between vaccine and placebo recipients, which cannot be differentiated by the RT-PCR test. Another potential explanation is that the vaccine has much larger effects on reducing replication outside the nose, as was shown in a study evaluating the mRNA-1273 vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 challenge in a non-human primate model.”
Thus the lack of production of antibodies in vaccine cases is NOT a weakness, as suggested by Berenson.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Moron....it is for the variants. Which the JAB does nothing for.
Go ahead NR keep trying to "change" facts to fit your narrative.
60% of those who are jab'd DO NOT PRODUCE antibodies.
93% of those who are NOT jab'd produce antibodies.
Hmmmmm I am going to stay with NOT getting the jab thank you very much.
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Yeah, those with the vaccine were able to clear the virus much better, so many fewer N-antibodies ended up getting produced.
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Please read an introductory chapter on the immune system before you criticize the vaccine,
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I get it that some people think the COVID vaccine is worthless, or even worse, a sinister government plot to kill us all off. I really do get it. And in a FREE society that is your choice. But what I don't get is why they are so insistent that anyone who CHOOSES to get the vaccine is a lame retard that doesn't deserve the right to vote because they are so stupid! Get a life! Then get a grip! If you don't want to get the vaccine, then don't. If you think your favorite youtuber or podcaster is more scientifically intelligent than the most revered scientists in America then, by all means, don't get the vaccine. But how about laying off of those that do choose to follow well proven science, the same well proven science that eliminated polio, smallpox, and relegated certain flu strains that decimated the world's populations to nothing more than a bad cold. By all means, don't get the vaccine. Exercise your right to let nature take its course. But when you do get it, then spread it to someone in your family that is at risk like a grandparent and they die, don't be a candy-ass and blame it on an inept hospital or doctor. No - you should stand up and proudly say, "Yeah, I killed them! So what? I was exercising my right to be stupid! Those people's lives were not as important than my God-given right to be stupid!"
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And since getting the vaccine vs. not getting the vaccine has always been a personal choice, how about stop trying to cram YOUR PERSONAL CHOICE down other people's throats!
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Read the blog, don't read the blog. That's your choice.
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"Please read an introductory chapter on the immune system before you criticize the vaccine,"
nr, have you had your 4th shot yet?
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By using several aliases, I've scored 12 shots now.
And I feel really good
Working on getting some more too
You can never have too many, amirite?
I'll be the safest safe person whose ever been safer than safe.
Angle that!
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@dtf2022
It would be great if it WERE a personal choice.
Go ask the police....fire....military....Nurses.....Doctors.....PRIVATE SECTOR workers who received letters stating they would be FIRED if they do not take the EXPERIMENTAL jab.
Ohhh and lets develop a data system to track everybody while we are at it.
Surely NOTHING can go wrong with this.
So please that whole idea of live n let live was NULL & VOID.
It was and still is TYRANICAL.
I know somebody attending law school and they have to take the jab before they start school in August and get this folks have a booster also.
So tell me how is that LIVE and LET LIVE.
Now that we know the truth it does MORE harm than good. Much more.
This is about FREEDOM vs tyrannical...evil..... bureaucrats & medical communities....NIH....CDC....WHO....shall I go on?
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AND the above example of the Law Student getting the jab now.....
Well the jab was designed for the original virus. Not the variants.
So again what frickin good will that do.
NOTHING
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And we now know it did virtually nothing on the original variant.
Except stops your body from producing natural antibodies to fight off the virus and its variants.
Again....now you know why deaths increased under Biden when the jabs started vs Trump when we did not have them.
All the BREAKTHROUGH cases.....etc.
And this is what they knew and still wanted us to take it.
Professional soccer players in the prime health of their lives...dying at unprecedented rates. In this case worldwide incidences for pro soccer players was about 20 cases per year. Not deaths. Cases.
After the jab well over 1,000 professional soccer players had heart/chest problems and died.
Yup all of them had the FREEDOM of choice not to take the jab.....SMH
And please do not tell me they could have not taken it. The cohersion of losing ones livelihood weighs heavy on a person.
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Yeah, those with the vaccine were able to clear the virus much better, so many fewer N-antibodies ended up getting produced.
NR this is the dumbest thing yet
Then why all the BREAKTHROUGH caes of people getting sick and dying.
The comedian is right...can not fix stupid.
Let me say this again.
The jab STOPPED your body in 60% of cases of NOT producing antibodies the fight the ORIGINAL strain and ALL OF THE VARIANTS.
Therefore MORE people got sick n died than would have if they did not take the jab.
Why is that.....
Because 93% of people who did NOT take the jab NATURALLY produced antibodies to fight the virus.
Its over NR....you were wrong...and will always be wrong.
The jab has done MORE harm than good.
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