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fuck price moved up a bit...so bit more on the share cost...was just going off what i bought my lil one in his RH acct
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just in case someone is interested 
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Jan. Of 2020 I had 2k of NVAX. Bought it in the 4's.Held it for a few weeks and made 200. Covid hit and six months later it was 275.00. fuck me
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pretty brutal
got many of those
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i typically only buy stuff i understand
got into ford a month ago - up 40% as of yesterday.
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yep...can get pretty complicated at times...lots of variables flying around this one
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So one more for you. Back in the late '80s I was doing construction work up in thousand oaks area. A company was slowly taking over an industrial park. A biotech company, no drugs yet on the market. I thought about buying a thousand shares but instead I bought a Toyota 4Runner. That $20,000 investment would now be worth over 6 million. That would have been a nice retirement. The company was Amgen
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I'm still trying to unload my Enron
Any willing buyers out there?
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sure lots of people are
worldcom/enron crash gave us lots of opportunities back in 2002
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A pharma company's drug had been rejected by the FDA. A few years later the same company went on a hiring spree (sales, admin. staff, execs), office space, marketing, etc. I followed the crumbs. Burn rate was close to suicide. I figured they would only take this chance if they were 100% sure the reapplication to the FDA would be approved.
Sure enough, the FDA was expected to announce decision in a few days. I bought the shares on a Friday, FDA announced approval on Saturday. Monday, the stock exploded and has gone on to do well. It was the only drug of its kind for the particular condition. Still have most of the shares.
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was that a few days ago? still have a few shares left? or a while back?
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this investment is for NEW people that want to learn
it will go thru hell over next few weeks...shaking people out with delisting talk and shareholder wipe-out. A few days ago? you might be thinking you have a starting hand of AA at the poker table, up against KK (same odds and played the same way)....as they shake the tree...that AA starts becoming (real or not), QQ up against UNKNOWN, maybe AK or AA. for 175-350 investment? the tree shaking shouldn't stress you out toooo much. hopefully
that is why for the first investment...just 350bucks...if that is TOO much...get 500 shares for 175.
if it works? you will have some decent money to PLAY the upcoming crash. you can PM me if need to.
there will be an opportunity to get 1000 shares (only get 1000 shares btw, if new to this) there will be a good opportunity to get the shares for total cost? maybe for 350bucks?
get a robinhood acct. they will let you BUY stock once you hit the button to deposit the money in the acct. that's a good feature(places like schwab? might take 3-5business days). so could all be set up and done in less than 20 minutes time
when the MARKET crashes...these types of investments will be out there. this is a good one to learn from and follow. will be textbook
for those that have ever made comments in the past on the board about wanting to learn investing stuff? this is for you.
can you lose the 175 or 350? YES. for the guys??? maybe we play a game - make a SESS. appt. for that price roughly?? hit the bathroom and jerk off. cancel the appt. NOW you have the money to do this. pretend the money is gone, like it would have been after that appt. (you jerked off and pretty much have the same result)
i had to give the same scenario back in 2008 for 300 dollar investment into BK GGP. that 300 bucks went to 50000 dollars. i had to try and keep people from selling it after they turned their investment into a paltry 200 percent gain. (had to hear over and over that you must take profits)...that's not what this is.
these BK plays are different types of investments...and in my mind, the easiest type of investments to make. NOT ALL BK's are the same btw. so don't try and lump this or a GGP with GM type BK
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@ lapierre.
I purchased Ford also during the dip, not at the lowest though. Not only has it increased but we got .15 cents a share dividend coming on September 1. Not to shabby.
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posting about investments on the public board is very hard...they get muddled up with 35 random comments
i did post this for NEW people trying to learn about it and THEY have made comments in the past about it.
a club would be the best option, but we don't have one. where each thread is about ONE investment only...dissecting and figuring it out. WE did have one in the past, and very active at the time of the 2008 crash...i think helped a few people...have a few emails where they were VERY thankful for the information.
MAYBE start a NEW thread about great investment gains on ford or other stuff...OR NEW investment opportunities that are upcoming and people can actually get into -- might be VERY helpful if they can get in it at the SAME TIME you are getting in it. that's really what helping people is about. BRINGING up new opportunities? before they happen? takes a little work
posting after the FACT? while fun to read?? doesn't help the potential new people...the ones that said they wanted to learn
I will give 5-10 NEW people 75 bucks in bitcoin(IN THE EVENT OF A TOTAL LOSS-SHAREHOLDERS WIPED OUT IN BK)...for taking a chance and opening a NEW Robinhood acct.
NEW accts only. screenshot it to me with BTC address. this should almost cover half the loss on 500 shares...seems like a no-brainer opportunity. NEW Robinhood accts only(NEW people to investing)...they have a date started on it
good luck
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"sure lots of people are"
name names so I can unload my Enron for a good price
the paper shares make great wallpaper in the bathroom
so I'm looking for more than standard ask price
show me your highest and best offer!
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maybe one or two people might be interested
won't be lots of people for sure, but the offer is for the first 10 new ones...that want to take a chance to learn something about investing
this has a chance of being wiped out...what are those odds VS potential winnings?
this is educated gambling
GGP was the largest RE bankruptcy ever. it was ugly...lots of tree shaking. 400 bucks into 50000??
this was in the investment club back in the day... a couple of people in the club kept the shares a lot of the way. MOST experienced pros in the club, dumped shares after 200-500 percent gains...which was a tragedy...I didn't mind them dumping, but getting others to dump was not good...in the name of taking profits?? fucked up life-changing money. they were not paying attn to the simple book value that was still miles away.
this one does not have that SAME shareholder ownership or the TWO guys with lots of common(almost 50percent) stock protecting their interests. BUT they have big institutions with expensive lawyers...a nuisance settlement is in the 3-5buck range per share. that could be good for a first-type investment...with chance it gets better and small chance it gets wiped out
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@Starfish - the pharma investment was a few years back. Since then I haven't taken many chances as the more people I got to know on Wall Street, the more I realized how much little info./intel the general public has on a company/industry. It would be a full-time job for me to trade with consistent success. As a result, have stuck to real estate since I knew I was on the outside when it comes to stocks.
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Remember when Cramer was pumping ntmd and people got hammered for following his advice. I enjoy watching Jim on TV but he has lost more money for people than anybody in the history of mankind
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i agree...shit takes lots of time and best to stick with what you KNOW.
2002-i became an energy expert after enron took ALL the energy stocks down to the ground
2008-i became a reit expert after MY own investment in a reit was down 300k in the RE crash...hundreds of hrs of time finding the ones that would bring it all back many many-fold...and shared it all with the investment club as it was all happening in real-time.
now? bio shit is beaten to a pulp...so spending many hours learning this sector
this is all before the potential crash WE might be seeing...the BIO shit is on the bottom and will move up to decent values in spite of markets crashing around them...general market coming down could BUY you extra time getting into these and time figuring them out a little better.
MEANING you might have missed getting all in...it spiked 100 percent. the general market brings it back down 40 percent...and you have another opportunity to get in fully deployed. as a matter of fact, you have a little proof of a good investment...so might actually feel more confident in what you were looking at initially.
it's like playing poker or anything...you NEED MANY MANY hours in it...experience all the little things that are going on.
also creating a LIST of BIG stocks that could FALL to lows and be ready to shove piles of money into...so 10hrs a week could be very good for the rest of the year. maybe we get lucky and Berkshire falls 40 percent or a FEW stocks you would have loved to own long long term...it might only be a one-day sale...so have to be ready with the account and the money for these pile-ins.
raised boat load of cash a while back...haven't watched ANY TV in about 10 or more weeks? the opportunities are out there and will be getting better.
ten hrs a week to start...up to 20hrs WHEN in the THICK of it and MEANINGFUL money is being deployed. could be over a million bucks when the smoke clears...that's for the medium-risk takers out there. if very cautious? maybe can get to something under a 100k? still could be good? a 50-100k in an acct...makes you feel a little better.
AGAIN, talking to the NEW people that have NADA and want to do a little better.
500-1000 shares of this thing is not meaningful...hopefully, a good chance to get a small little pile of money for the shit that's coming
almost no-lose proposition.
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yep...that's all a bummer.
especially when they take that shit to the bank as gospel
i did watch a clip of him the other day...first time in a very long time
talk about south american companies getting listed on american exchanges...pretty helpful piece of info for me at the time, but it was me looking for that, so not a CHANCE happening on television at the time.
couple of things looking at and it helped a bit with decision making...maybe the extra amount of money put in?
sometimes these should just be ideas...sectors to look at. need to follow up with some work...find a few people with GREAT track records to follow into some of these things...that gives you lots of confidence until you can start leading the way yourself.
it's not as hard as all that
actually pretty easy, if you SPEND THE TIME
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Jim Cramer looks like he's on something and never sleeps. Guy is annoying AF.
I turned over all my retirement accounts to a fiduciary advisor a couple years ago, they helped me out of a bad annuity situation without losing the money.
Even in this shit market I am pleased with them so far.
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cramer never ever talked about the shit i was in
probably good it was like that
he's a mouthpiece for the hedge funds
yep...i sold something the other day for a loss...pissed me off...if i would have waited about 5 more minutes? ooulda made a buck or two on it. held the fucker for years...and it all came down to that fucking 5min time span. i was sick for a few days over it.
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Fiduciary advisors are good but you may miss out on some growth opportunities.
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no newbies are interested...that's cool
tried and OUT...sold it all
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