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Locked. No further comments permitted.Deposits, part 2.
Aug 31 2022 05:53PM more by jimmmyz
Tags: Orange County, Random (All tags)

There are a lot of guys that don’t show up for appointments. And there are a lot of ladies that take deposits and then are unavailable for appointments. I don’t really have a good answer to this problem. Does anyone have a solution?
      
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Aug 31 2022 06:22PM     link to this

I’m not too sure. I come from sites where deposits are king because of countless no-shows and deposits are a surety that a client and provider will show. It could depend on the amount that is required as well. Outside of HX, I require 15-20%, especially for incalls. I would be in the hole booking a room and there’s a no-show.

I would verify if the provider had a website, or a social media presence and that will actually hard their business if it’s blasted they are scamming. Clients…I’m not too sure about y’all.
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Aug 31 2022 09:02PM     link to this

Deposits. 🤣
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Aug 31 2022 09:28PM     link to this

I am not booking with someone that requires a deposit but I totally respect the woman’s right.

We use this site to build social credit. Honestly, that should be enough.
grooviefan
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Sep 1 2022 03:52AM     link to this

if they need a deposit, i tell them to open wide and swallow.
SkurferGurl
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Sep 1 2022 07:01AM     link to this

^^^^^ OMYGoodness
Tatiana36dd
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Sep 1 2022 07:12AM     link to this

Groovie, how poetic of you Sir.
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Sep 1 2022 08:06AM     link to this

What a bunch of pathetic fukwads.
I'll be the first one to say fuck a bitch. I'm a blacksheep not a whiteknight.
But you narrow minded dicheads are truly pathetic. Show a shred of decency. You young chumps are special. They way you treat women. The douchery is real. The douchery is a sickness. You fucks need a shot.
SeymourButz
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Sep 1 2022 08:08AM     link to this

And for you Sufergirl. That's not funny!
tommy1nut
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Sep 1 2022 01:02PM     link to this

I was asked for a deposit one time XX for an advanced appointment. They never showed they never answered. They weren’t on this site. I will never deposit in advance again. It’s like going to a gentleman’s club getting all worked up for nothing.
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Sep 1 2022 04:54PM     link to this

Never Deposited, never will !!!,

I have heard of way to many mongers that have been scammed. I don't book if I cant make the appointment, On the odd situation(happened once) I do have to cancel last minute I communicate with the lady about a cancellation fee and gladly send her the the funds she requests.

I actually once ran 45 min late for an extend 2 Hour appointment and paid the lady the full fee and communicated that to her as I was on my way and running very late. She appreciated it and was very sweet and accommodating,
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Sep 1 2022 05:11PM     link to this

I make a deposit every morning, right after my third cup of coffee and a banana. Pictures upon requests
TaraCMT
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Sep 1 2022 08:36PM     link to this

I got my direct deposit a day early today.
Yay for deposits.
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Sep 1 2022 11:32PM     link to this

U get to the trusting position with ur date.u make him feel welcome wanted (later happy.)
Never even think of ask deposit ….but that’s just me .if he don’t feel to come for any reason no deposit can change that’. Honesty the best always.😱🔥😍🥲
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Sep 1 2022 11:51PM     link to this

Yes there needs to be trust. A deposit immediately says I don’t trust you and expect you not to show.
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Sep 2 2022 10:08AM     link to this

Guess there is no right or wrong answer. I think each needs to be evaluated on a case by case basis. I know there have been two blacklisted gents that I set some terms on and they compliked as they were trying to re-establish themselves as a good person. It worked out fine for us both.. in general tho I would imagine it hard to get a deposit due to the large number of insincere individuals.
jazz51
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Sep 2 2022 10:12AM     link to this

If both parties actually screen and check up about who they are seeing, this probably does not become an issue. However, when people are trying to coordinate something an hour or two from now, you are probably taking your changes.
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Sep 2 2022 03:31PM     link to this

I don't practice this, but i would think the fairest way to deal with no shows and not worry about deposits being eaten up would be to charge a cancelation fee the next time the same person books.

For myself I don't charge anything and sometimes Gents bring along something extra for their prior cancelation (even when they gave me notice and its always appreciated and unexpected). I also refuse to take deposits.

We should be here having fun, not on our toes worried about who's going to try to pull a fast one on us

PK
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Sep 2 2022 03:35PM     link to this

Kittty, I can't imagine anyone flaking on you unless they were hospitalized.....or dead.

I have had a couple of instances where I had to cancel, always at least a day in advance. But I always gave the lady an extra tip because I probably cost her some business.
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Sep 2 2022 03:36PM     link to this

pk...very smart lady

JR718
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Sep 2 2022 05:03PM     link to this

A deposit is about as hilarious asking for your picture and place of employment to book with them!

Two words - Fuck That.

Pretty_Kittty
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Sep 2 2022 05:30PM     link to this

Jazz, luckily everyone in one piece lol, but things happen. I'm just happy when I get notice

IoS thank you

JR I understand why they do..... You're a rob
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Sep 2 2022 05:35PM     link to this

one time the chick was so hot...i almost gave her everything she wanted...credit card authorizations...work number...wife's number


hit the head, jerked off, and came to my senses...not giving her the wife's number...wtf?


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Sep 2 2022 06:30PM     link to this

Prettykitty nailed it. No free money for scammers and you leave someone hanging! Send retribution. If not this will continue to get worse. The other site are just riddled with scammers. Please respect the system of ratings its there for a reason! To protect us and them. Best wishes,
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Sep 2 2022 07:01PM     link to this

@insearchofstarfish… 🤣🤣I just spit my water out… that was absolutely hilarious.
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Sep 2 2022 07:19PM     link to this

I made a massive deposit onto Khan's chest about an hour ago and I feel marvelous
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Sep 2 2022 08:21PM     link to this

I've sent deposits 4 times in the past 10 years. Only one wasn't stolen as soon as it was sent. And that was the first.

If I'm doing Incall and you ask for a deposit, you're a scammer. Your hotel room is not my expense. Your transportation to the incall is not my expense. If you wish to layer those expenditures into your rate, that's your perogative and I would encourage you to do exactly that.

And because I can't help but explain the absurdity of sending random money to a stranger I'm en route to go meet as fast as I can get to her? "You can't wait 23 minutes?"
Every time it comes up and it's pretty much 50/50 at this point, they confirm their scamming ways by a slip in their script or an abrupt personality change or childish demands for a Steam Card because they're ordering me to do so.

Booking fee. For incall. I mean, c'mon. lol. They must think the world is one big Telegram channel.

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Sep 2 2022 09:34PM     link to this

You can say that again!
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Sep 3 2022 11:17AM     link to this

Just say NO!Hit the next click.
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Dec 7 2022 01:39PM     link to this

I would like to report that the issue of deposits seems to be regional, if not a site specific. I just came across country by car and had some interesting encounters. In Oklahoma City they were literally throwing deposits at me! One of them was for 300. I guess the girls who pull these scams are not in Oklahoma City because they sure don't have a problem with them there!
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Dec 7 2022 02:58PM     link to this

I don't do deposits or prepay payments . I will add a cancellation fee to someone who cancels if they decide to rebook but only because if I cancel I always make up for it and I feel it's only right for a man to do the same . I see why girls ask but truthfully if I don't get enough inquiries to make it to a destination I simply won't go. I know deposits help girls solidify trips because who wants to pay up to $300 for a hotel, $100 in gas, hygiene products and other things just to get a bunch of cancellations and be assed out of money (and time)

It's a double edge sword but in the end I say do what works best for you and make sure you're dealing with reliable people. There are a few girls here that require deposits and I never hear anything bad
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Dec 7 2022 03:36PM     link to this

insearchofstar
so funny, been there - sending pics of my just about anything to get "screened".
amazing how much IQ the other head can drain from the one on top of your body..

yeah never deposits though but i do understand the blacklist system and thats a much smarter way to deal with it.
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Dec 7 2022 04:09PM     link to this

If a woman can get a deposit and not hurt her business - hell, more power to her

The corollary to that though is if a girl has no pictures (even if subscribed) - I won't see her.... why should I?

I would think not having pictures would hurt a gals business just as much as asking for a deposit.

Just my 2 cents
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Dec 7 2022 06:55PM     link to this

@remo_williams

You are absolutely correct!

@Speeder666

Don't ever go to Oklahoma because you would starve for intimacy there! The men willing to lay down a deposit (almost offering it) will out play you ever day of the week!
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Dec 7 2022 07:59PM     link to this

If anyone ever asks me for a deposit that is a hard pass for me. I dont Care what you look like and even if you’re a “porn star!” Trust me I’ve met a few… Your network should be able to allow you book without having to “ put a deposit down.” Gtfoh
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Dec 8 2022 05:19AM     link to this

"would starve for intimacy there"

People don't "starve" for intimacy your logic is off. Now you will starve with out money that's why you girls do this.
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Dec 8 2022 07:04AM     link to this

Having a network doesn't mean you can book without a deposit lol hell there are people on here that have network and they are shady asf. Network essentially means nothing when it comes to getting appointments.


Let's face it y'all men shop around. I've had men reach out to me and literally tell me "I see you'll be in my area but I made other commitments with someone else but if you're available I can cancel with them to see you'

I always say no because that's just not cool. having men cancel on you especially at the last minute is why some girls ask for deposits. I get it life happens but some of y'all aren't reliable enough for a girl to make a trip just to waste money


Like I said before I don't ask for deposits so if I don't get enough inquiries or prebookings to make a trip I simply won't go. I hear men complain about that too but oh well lol if you won't send a deposit to help solidify someone's trip then don't be mad when she doesn't have enough appointments to make it

For most men it's a definite no but I noticed as someone else said it's all about location . When I travel out of CA or even up north I have men begging me to send deposits but I just don't do it.

As I said before to each their own. If it's not your thing then move on to the next but don't bash a woman for asking for a deposit because some people aren't reliable. And also don't bash men for not wanting to send one due to unreliable people as well.


It's a double edge sword but it does work for some and that's ok.
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Dec 8 2022 08:22AM     link to this

The network system, which is unique to this site, could greatly help identify those no shows by men and women who require a deposit as a scam.

For the most part the network system is anonymous, except for safety and karma. It was designed for just this type of situation. A no show is not a safety issue unless that person received specific location information before ghosting. However a woman who steals a deposit, by answering the safety questions truthfully is. Either way, both should be marked negatively in karma because nobody likes a scammer and no show.

By rating a person negatively in karma you are letting the entire community know that you do not like the person, for whatever reason. That gives anyone the opportunity to pm you and ask you why you gave a negative rating, and you can explain the reason, which could be a no show, scammer, bait and switch, not providing what was offered beforehand, or whatever the reason might be.

The offender then realizes that their actions have consequences and will probably try to resolve it in some manner. Many will rate the other person negatively in retaliation, which is something most people fear. That should not preclude you from rating the offender negatively. If that happens you can explain that in your profile and say that the hour glass time stamp beside each rating proves that you rated that person negatively first, and that their rating is retaliatory. Also, your network should speak for itself.

Some will contact the person and ask why they received the negative rating, and try to resolve it. If it's resolved to your satisfaction you might consider removing the negative rating. Either way, that person knows their conduct has consequences and will probably refrain from doing it in the future.

If we all used the network system in this manner, the community would have the opportunity to more thoroughly screen individuals who pm them, thus reducing the number of no shows and deposit scammers.
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Dec 8 2022 09:20AM     link to this

@Mr.Cpt.Morgan

"Your network should be able to allow you book without having to “ put a deposit down.”

You have totally missed the point. If you look on my network I have probably only required a deposit on 1 or 2 of those clients. In GENERAL, there is never a reason to require a deposit from and HX member with a good and recent network ratings. However, there are exceptions to the rule, like someone cancelling on short notice or even a NCNS who wants to set yet another appointment. I'm not mad at them for cancelling an appointment and would be willing to see them, I just want to take precautions to not being okie-doked again!

I don't need the money - I stay quite busy without having to rely on deposits. Quite frankly, they are a minor inconvenience for me, adding yet another step in the whole process of vetting and setting appointments. Aside from the above, I only require them as a means of determining a new or thinly vetted potential client's seriousness in following through with the appointment. In this business, TIME IS MONEY, and wasted time is wasted money. There are other databases where I can see that someone has been a NCNS with someone else (even non-HX members); these are the one's I require a deposit from, and if they balk at doing it I am actually happy that the negotiations didn't go any further and waste yet more of my time communicating with them.

When the girls on this site talk about the need for deposits, we are talking in GENERAL terms, and almost ALL of the girls on this site agree for the limited need of asking for deposits IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. Unfortunately, guys usually think of it on a personal basis, like we are going to ask THEM for a deposit if they ever ask to set an appointment. And again, for the last time (I promise), THERE IS NEVER A NEED FOR REQUIRING A DEPOSIT FROM A LEVEL1+ HX MEMBER WITH A CLEAN NETWORK! If someone is doing that, YOU SHOULD EXERCISE EXTREME CAUTION if you are that dead set on seeing them.



@Speeder666

If I ever develop a chemical dependency problem and need fast cash to take care of it I will certainly consider taking your advice to lower my standards to that level. Your comment was nothing more than a mean-spirited barb that added nothing intelligent to the conversation, but it does speak volumes to your character, which a lot of the girls on this site will pay attention to.
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Dec 8 2022 09:33AM     link to this

The answer is simple. Get off your Lazy Ass and go to your local branch and make a withdrawl while you still can in this changing to the cashless society.
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Dec 8 2022 10:08AM     link to this

No deposits, unless it’s an outcall that’s far
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Dec 8 2022 01:18PM     link to this

I only require deposits for new profiles with 0 network and Outcalls
I think requiring it for established members is iffy - but of course there are many that have taken advantage of that.
There is no right or wrong answer here.. just find someone who’s policies align with your comfort
Yourbaby_Fiji
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Dec 8 2022 01:21PM     link to this

I will say HX is the only site that has clients who still refuse deposits. When I tour out of state or North Cali clients will happily send a deposit before I even ask- I wonder if it’s due to sense of community here
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Dec 8 2022 01:34PM     link to this

I feel that maintaining a well established profile is better than a deposit.
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Dec 8 2022 01:48PM     link to this

^ I agree. But shit happens, and sometimes it is warranted!
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Dec 8 2022 01:58PM     link to this

I wonder if there is a business opportunity here to put money into an escrow. That way if someone pulls a no show they get the money or if someone ghost's then the originator would get the money back.


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Dec 8 2022 02:25PM     link to this

I've sent 1 deposit - Yup she was off the charts hot and I wasn't thinking with the big head.
Bottom line - got ghosted and never saw the $1.5 again.

Lesson learned, the quickest way to lose money is ... send a deposit. Never again.

If I see that the person requires a deposit, pic of DL, linked in page, business card or anything like that it's time to move on. The chicks not worth the headaches that could come from any of her 'requests'.

Atticus Finch
Yourbaby_Fiji
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Dec 8 2022 02:37PM     link to this

Reminder never to send a deposit to a girl that looks like a playboy model, has a no limit menu and is suspiciously cheap . Clearly a scam .. this is why most guys refuse deposits 100% cause they fall for obvious scams and don’t read reviews on multiple sites!
Ruins it for all us honest girls
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