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Jan 21 2022 10:02AM more by sherkahn
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Looks like we are on step closer to Russia invading Ukraine, and seeing if we have the balls to step up and thwart Russia’s actions.

2 things. By all accounts an invasion of Ukraine for Russia would not pay off in any way, especially in winter. It would hurt their economy in the short run as the major pipelines for billions of dollars of natural gas into Europe would be at risk, and the direct pipeline from russia to Germany would also be in jeopardy. All you would get is More contested territory.

Second, is this a feint? Keeping our eyes here while something else is going on?
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Jan 22 2022 01:25PM     link to this

Too much reading.
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Jan 22 2022 01:32PM     link to this

What's Brandon gonna do, take off his mask and cough on 'em?
NOBODY in the world believes that he's got the balls to do ANYTHING
And, why should we sacrifice any American lives for Ukraine?
Sounds like they shoulda hung on to those nukes, that would make Putin think twice.

OR, it's a feint and you better keep a cork in your asshole, just in case Putin comes at ya.
Maybe Gloom Guy likes socialist cock?
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Jan 22 2022 01:49PM     link to this

Biden has already given Puten his blessing to restart the Nordstreim 2 pipeline which isolates Ukraine.

Biden even said the other day that Putin "might go in" for a "minor incursion". His own press Secretary had to clean up his buffoonery at the mic.

The word is Ukraine is urging the US state dept to have US diplomats and citizens leave Ukraine to avoid another Saigon like emergency helicopter exit seen last summer in Afghanistan.

Biden is a totally spineless whimp.
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Jan 22 2022 01:58PM     link to this

Take that back, you've just maligned all totally spineless wimps!
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Jan 22 2022 02:02PM     link to this

kinda crazy when they have these NEW money-making pipelines going...what are they thinking is going to happen with those?

with china and russia getting together lately...maybe we'll see ukraine and taiwan happen at the same time

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Jan 22 2022 02:07PM     link to this

I take it back. Biden is a penis breath malcontent.

I literally has Putins jizz all over his face.
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Jan 22 2022 02:07PM     link to this

headline-

Families of US Embassy personnel in Ukraine ordered to begin evacuating as soon as Monday: officials
Next week, the State Department is also expected to encourage Americans to begin leaving Ukraine by commercial flights
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Jan 22 2022 02:16PM     link to this

biden and putin already hashed out in their meeting back in the summer how this was all going to play out

same meeting where putin said there is no place for you in the middle east

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Jan 22 2022 02:21PM     link to this

now that Nkorea and iran have nukes...japan, taiwan and Skorea need them also...maybe it would solve/save a lot of the saber-rattling and money on arms build-up




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Jan 22 2022 03:56PM     link to this

Here's some gloomy gloom for ya!
Super explosion bigger than the Tsar Bomba nuke

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Jan 22 2022 04:05PM     link to this

pretty cool...just watched this one about 4hrs ago

lots of angles covered analyzing this event



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Jan 22 2022 05:06PM     link to this

LOL people still believe what the news tells them? LOL Russia really going to invade?

I guess along the same lines of reason the vaccine is safe and effective right?????
HAHAHAHAHAAHAA
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Jan 22 2022 05:31PM     link to this

moving tens of thousands of troops closer...biden pretty much gave his OK

kinda crazy considering they are poised to be bringing in some serious energy money at good pricing






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Jan 22 2022 06:25PM     link to this

With dementia Joe at the helm and the military leaders more interested in the new woke agenda, that's all the US needs. Why wouldnt Russia invade? We seem to be pretty weak and feable in a "who's really in charge" stand point. We couldn't get out of Afghanistan without looking totally inept. Best case, send massive amounts of weapons and hope Russia can be held back.
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Jan 22 2022 06:55PM     link to this

i do find this kinda funny shit

remember the last five years with trump? fuckers were sure he was in bed with them and favoring them...they needed his taxes to see his loans.

but nothing on 1.5b chinese investment to son on AF2...with 10percent for the big guy. WHAT has that fund been investing in?

russia will get the olé from biden on the ukraine thing...got sanctions removed and pipeline ok'd...putin B thinking biden is better for russia than trump? YES? NO?



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Jan 22 2022 06:57PM     link to this

Good thing Biden isn’t alone on this, as European powers also make their efforts to stop Putin from seizing more territory.
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Jan 22 2022 07:11PM     link to this

we shall see

european powers seem to have the most at stake here...it's a good exercise for them to see where they are at...trump was good at wanting countries in the area protecting their own shit a bit more VS america doing it



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Jan 22 2022 08:02PM     link to this

And Trump was a cuckold, but we didn’t hold that against you.

Oh wait, yes we did.
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Jan 22 2022 08:06PM     link to this

Back on topic, the UK believes Putin will install a pro Russia leader in Ukraine.

What IS interesting is that “ze Germans” are not allowing German made weapons or fighters to be dispersed for us against Russia, should invasion begin. Only medical resources for the wounded.

Other allies are sending weapons or soldiers.
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Jan 22 2022 09:07PM     link to this

Germany is in bed with Russia for the Nordstreim 2 pipeline which bypasses Ukraine.

Germany would have almost no conviction to fight here. They play the roll of disinterested pessimists like Canadians.
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Jan 22 2022 09:07PM     link to this

*passivists*
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Jan 22 2022 09:22PM     link to this

good to see where they are at...IRAN and nukes, china virus, russia, china sea

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Jan 22 2022 10:01PM     link to this

The warmongers in Washington are at it again. The Neocons are mostly Dems now. How insane to push a war with a fuckin nuclear power over their borders and NATO. The eastern Ukraine is mainly pro Russian as that is their language and history. Much of the non Russian Ukraine are led by militias that are out and out Nazis. Some crazy shit Biden is pushing us towards war as is the Secretary of Stste. Only Tucker Carlson is raising the alarm about a foolish war not remotely in out national interest.
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Jan 22 2022 10:27PM     link to this

@ the Europeans
The only bigger pussies on the planet than Biden
Merkel voluntarily placed her country at the mercy of Russia
She gotta be getting paid by Putin

Hmm, close all nuke power plants, put up a bunch of worthless windmills and be dependent on Russian natural gas. Yeah, that's the ticket.
We've got them right where they want us.
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Jan 23 2022 02:13AM     link to this

Defend Chernobyl During an Invasion? Why Bother, Some Ukrainians Ask.
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Jan 23 2022 06:17PM     link to this


The UK sent Ukraine anti-tank weapons for self-defense in case Russia invades, MP Ben Wallace said.
Royal Air Force planes carrying the weapons flew around German airspace to get there, data showed.
Germany had declined to send military support to Ukraine and blocked NATO shipments to Kyiv.
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Jan 23 2022 07:37PM     link to this

When does Putin call Joe to make sure all Diplomats and US citizens are out of Ukraine?...

"Let's be sure Joe, we don't want people clutching on to the landing gear of a C17 cargo plane"
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Jan 23 2022 07:58PM     link to this

Actually this is just a replay of the start to World War II. The world especially sat quietly while Hitler's Germany occupied areas that were taken from them as part of the treaty ending World War I as well as any territory they claimed really had a majority of Germans.

Putin is apparently following the same playbook. He annexes the Crimea in 2014 with little resistance from anyone in the U.S. or Europe. And now it looks like he will invade the rest of the Ukraine because he doesn't expect Europe or the U.S to do anything.

I am sure the Ukrainians regret having given up their nuclear weapons as a result of treaty assurances in 1994 from Russia, the United States and Britain guaranteeing their independence and the integrity of their territory.

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Jan 24 2022 03:47AM     link to this




Holy shit.. Russian aggressive behavior used to get Republicans ready to fight the commies under your bed. Now.? the sound of Republicans tiny balls exploding into pink puffs smoke. Mmm... fruity.


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Jan 24 2022 11:59AM     link to this

Russia never invaded Crimesla they were already there, Sevastopol is thier major naval base on the Black Sea. Not a single Ukrainian soldier was killed, they were allowed to join the Russian Military for much higher pay. If you think Europe wants to fight in the Ukraine your crazy, No land connection and the only water way is through the Bosphorus Straights. Russia controls the Black Sea and it's ringed with anti ship missiles on all sides, There is no reason for the Ukraine to join NATO.
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Jan 24 2022 12:22PM     link to this

Russia will "invade" Ukraine
NATO will do nothing
European countries will do nothing
USA will do nothing


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Jan 24 2022 01:53PM     link to this

Ukraine's nuclear regret?

At least one Ukrainian politician is wondering whether his nation should have kept its nuclear arsenal after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

In 1994 the US, UK, Russia and Ukraine signed the Budapest Memorandum, in which the three powers offered assurances that they would respect Ukraine's territorial integrity. Pavlo Rizanenko, a member of the Ukrainian parliament, is having second thoughts.

"We gave up nuclear weapons because of this agreement," he told USA Today's Larry Copeland. "Now there's a strong sentiment in Ukraine that we made a big mistake."

Mr Rizanenko's logic is sound, writes USA Today's James S Robbins.




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Ireland tells Russia live-fire naval exercise is 'not welcome'



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Jan 24 2022 04:45PM     link to this

No reason for Ukraine to join NATO?

Have you even listened to actual Ukrainians talk about the crisis?

Those that are not lining for the good old days of the USSR are adamant about being their own people, with Grier own culture and language, not junior varsity Russia.

The word is that Putin’s aggression since Crimea has unified the defiant into taking a stance and want to join NATO as a deterrent to having Russia dictate their lives.
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Jan 24 2022 04:50PM     link to this

I talk to lots of people in those areas, some in and around russia...they not be happy with putin

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I honestly believe Germany and France secretly want Russia to invade why else are they not standing up rattling Sabres. NATO has lost its way and basically is a confederacy of self interested states including our own.

No way should the US intervene but Ukraine should be provided all the military resources necessary to defend themselves.
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Jan 24 2022 05:34PM     link to this

"What IS interesting is that “ze Germans”...."

Merkel was the worst thing to happen to Europe since Hitler. All the EU countries have lost their identity and since of purpose. Just puppet states for a socialist agenda that has not met any promise for a better EU ... just a slowly decaying mass of states racing to the bottom.
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Jan 24 2022 06:09PM     link to this

Nacraman,

Most of the world viewed the annexation of Crimea as an invasion even if it was relatively bloodless. Some of Hitler's annexations of territory were pretty bloodless also because Chamberlain and the rest of the Europeans let him do so. Should we send troops into Ukraine to fight the Russians? No. And I don't think Joe Biden will do anything more than Barack did when Russia took over Crimea.

And the economic sanctions will not amount to anything either!


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Jan 24 2022 06:27PM     link to this

had a 350k investment in georgia at that exact time...so followed it pretty close







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Jan 24 2022 07:34PM     link to this

Biden isn’t going to protect Ukraine. Lol There won’t be a war. He may offer them some blankets to stay warm.
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