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Today in Gloom: Article 5 of NATO
Feb 26 2022 08:50AM more by sherkahn
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Ukraine is not part of NATO, but that does not mean that we are not going to be prepared for the conflict.

Cyber attacks that have hit Ukraine are not surgical, and once any of our NATO Allies get hit by a cyber attack, that triggers Article 5, and then the US will go to war.

“ What could trigger this?
Russia has attacked Ukraine by land, sea and air – but there remains a question over cyberattacks.

Less than 24 hours after the invasion began, U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee chairman Mark Warner, D-Va., warned that if Russia launched major cyberattacks on Ukraine, the damage could spill beyond the country's borders.

Sen. Warner says a direct NATO-Russia conflict would be 'uncharted territory'
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Sen. Warner says a direct NATO-Russia conflict would be 'uncharted territory'
"When you launch cyberattacks, they don't recognize geographic boundaries. Some of that cyberattack could actually start shutting down systems in eastern Poland," he said.
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Feb 26 2022 08:56AM     link to this

It's coming. Prepare now. Darth Vader has spoken.


A terrifying warning from the World Economic Forum. Are you ready?

"Pay insufficient attention, to the frightening scenario of a comprehensive cyber attack could bring a complete halt to the power supply, transportation, hospital services, our society as a whole. The COVID-19 crisis would be seen in this respect as a small disturbance in comparison to a major cyber attack." - Klaus Schwab
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Feb 26 2022 11:33AM     link to this

If we don't stop Putin's expansion in Ukraine now, the rest of Europe and Central Asia will be unstable for years to come, as Putin will not stop until he has the Warsaw Pact countries under his control again. Germany should be worried, Putin will take the entire country as Germany has no military to speak of.

If not us, who?

If not now, when?
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Feb 26 2022 12:28PM     link to this

I expect that Romania, Poland, Hungry, and the Czecs' will fight the Russian's to the death. They have been under the thumb of the Russians and don't want to go back there.
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Feb 26 2022 01:07PM     link to this

Putin is on the way out. This war is not going as planned. Unlike the Afghans, Ukrainians are tenacious and will not bow down to Putin. You have to admire the Ukrainians. Beyond Ukrainians, Russians will suffer dead soldiers and harsh economic consequences. It’s easy to rally your people behind you you when you’re justified, but Russians can’t be happy to fight a war that they started for no reason but a power grab to satisfy their egotistical dictator.

The US will avoid being dragged into this directly. You don’t want two super powers fighting each other and inadvertently starting a nuclear war. But the US is already “balls deep” in this war by providing arms to Ukraine and fortifying NATO.


Putin is destabilizing the world for no reason but to return Russia to becoming an even bigger problem for the world (as it once was). It won’t be allowed to happen. Putin will be taken out by his own people, or will figure out how to back down to save face and remain in power weaker than before. Putin’s “genius” move has already backfired.



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Feb 26 2022 01:32PM     link to this

Another stupid video from AF.

Fuck off
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Feb 26 2022 03:38PM     link to this

TheAlterEgo: Germany has a "small" conventional military. There is a reason for that.
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Feb 26 2022 03:59PM     link to this

LOL people still believe in NATO?

Uhhh do you see what happening?

You believe that the COVID vaccine is safe and effective, and in Santa Claus too?
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Feb 26 2022 04:17PM     link to this

this is good for NATO btw

they need to find themselves after years of nothing...sounds like NATO and germany have woken the fuck up.

poland is pretty excited as they will now be hosting a lot of US troops on long-term basis...good for their growing local economies


lots of lessons to be learned from this shit...countries need to decouple faster from these fuckers where important shit is concerned. they can keep shipping toys and back scratchers








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Feb 26 2022 05:00PM     link to this

^its only good if a positive outcome happens to the Western Allie’s, starfish.

So far it’s been a shit show all around.
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Feb 26 2022 05:18PM     link to this

weapons are weapons though

almost seems like they wanted to see the resolve of the ukrainians



i would be willing to sacrifice something like 6/7 dollar gas for a few years if it meant a total decoupling...same thing with china tariffs and getting the important supply chains away from an aggressive communist state.

biden using those same type of words about sacrifice btw, but i trust him and the EU about zero percent...hopefully this is a wakeup call for the world

this is a very good example of what happens when going to battle with one arm behind your back btw...just in case you couldn't grasp it when we were getting smoked in the different areas of the world over last 50 years








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Feb 26 2022 05:32PM     link to this

Major wake up call for NATO!

NATO realizes that they have to defeat Russia in Ukraine,
or the Russians will march into Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania next.
Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia are well prepared at the moment, as they have been
skeptical of Putin all along!
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Feb 26 2022 05:56PM     link to this

@ TheAlterEgo

You are right, but Russia/Russians are not the problem. They need to oust Putin now. NATO needs to help anyone who can get that done, including those within Russia. The Russian people, athletes, and even politicians are speaking out now against the war.

This situation is exactly why NATO was created in the first place. When a bad actor acts up, they rush in to defend members of NATO (which doesn’t include Ukraine) and try to prevent things from getting to that point if possible (which is why they/we are helping Ukraine).








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Feb 26 2022 07:09PM     link to this

hopefully, when putin goes a worse actor doesn't take his place...china has the same problem, there are people there more hard-line than XI...he's pretty fucking hardcore


i think the people themselves would love to be part of the EU or something like it...i talked to a lot of people in russia and ukraine over the last few years














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Feb 26 2022 07:38PM     link to this

I agree. Hopefully the person who replaces Putin will be much better. One of the only countries that really hasn’t progressed economically since the breakup of the Soviet Union is Russia. Ukraine is doing much better in modernizing and growing it’s economy. The people of Russia will demand a better leader and who will be more democratic.

When Putin goes, you may see the Democrats and Republicans come together more than they have. Putin has very limited resources to fight the US. But he can spend $100 million a year using social media to fuck with both sides of the political spectrum.His goal has been to disrupt this county’s focus on him and to weaken democracy in general. He has succeeded wonderfully.

Hope he is ousted soon before he launches any nukes as he’s going down.




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Feb 26 2022 07:39PM     link to this

*Its economy
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Feb 26 2022 08:32PM     link to this

putin is fighting with one hand behind his back here

there is NO way he can carpet bomb ukraine and get away with it by his own people and the rest of the world

part of his argument was that ukrainians were his people...shoulda been easier. he's liberating and DE-NAZIFYING....whatever the fuck that means...zelinsky being a jew

seen a couple of interviews where they said they didn't vote for him initially, but like his leadership in this war...standing up for ukraine



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Feb 26 2022 09:20PM     link to this

Word from BBC new and German news reports is that Putin had expected to have taken control of Kyiv by now, but has not. Carpet bombings and tanks won’t work as the Ukrainians are getting surface to air missiles and anti tank weapons from EU to the front line, and the money Putin has spent on financing this war is running out.

The strikes are surgical, and not all out as the Ukrainians are using captured soldiers as shields.
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Feb 26 2022 09:23PM     link to this

some pretty cool clips of putin getting ready for something like this...making himself sanction proof

let's see how well he's done

they don't have the capability to occupy ukraine

be kinda cool to see this go long with russia bleeding resources/military and weakening putin...ukraine would get stronger and more experienced...kinda like israel





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Feb 26 2022 09:28PM     link to this

"Unlike the Afghans, Ukrainians are tenacious and will not bow down to Putin."

Simple minded fuck you are, MA.

The “Great Game” has been played for centuries in Afghanistan, known as the “graveyard of empires.” Afghans beat the Brits, the Ruskies and the U.S.
Just cause we picked the "B" team doesn't make them any less tenacious.

90% of your posts are either obvious or oblivious.
Please just STFU and let the adults converse.

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Feb 26 2022 09:30PM     link to this

As to OP's cyber attacks and internet bullshit
As long as HX and Pornhub work
I'm good
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Feb 26 2022 09:33PM     link to this

kinda cool

again it's fucking horrible, but gotta be smiling if russia is flailing with their big one big shot at this

defense contractors are fucking happy now


saw an interview last night...i need to find it. said the US was taking out of service a bunch of f15s, a10s...he proposed they lease them to ukraine

also hoping non of that night goggle gear makes it to russia from afghanistan...was a shit load of things like that...coulda been good to get ukraine some of that




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Feb 26 2022 09:39PM     link to this

pornhub

that place still working?

got lots of friends from russia and ukraine losing 5-15k month incomes because of their credit card debachle...still not fixed btw...most content makers are not making any more for them...some make the minimum to stay on top tier payout ...just in case it comes back







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Feb 26 2022 09:41PM     link to this

Anti-tank and ant-aircraft is all they need
Javelins and Stingers will beat the bear.
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Feb 26 2022 09:49PM     link to this

this is very cool...think since i cut the cord...subscribe to about 10military type channels


KYIV RESIDENTS ARE GIVEN GUNS TO HELP DEFEND THEIR CITY AGAINST RUSSIAN ARMY || 2022

seeing their little few hrs of training

need to find some reputable donation spots for this


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Fully loaded Warthog is my go-to when the Apache is in the shop
A mini-gun is fun but a 20mm Vulcan spells love
Problem these days is firing for 1 second runs about $4,000
So saving the ammo for serious work
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Feb 26 2022 10:10PM     link to this

C’mon, you can spend the bucks.

When is the next time you can say “I swiss cheesed Russian armored vehicles and helped save the world”?
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great warplane

they keep trying to get rid of it and they can't...nothing like it...think they got a not improved version of it coming out







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Feb 26 2022 11:06PM     link to this

LOL people still believe in NATO?

Uhhh do you see what happening?

=================================

NATO may seem weak but apparently Putin was afraid enough with Ukraine joining NATO that he launched an invasion.

I am confused. Do you not believe Russia has invaded Ukraine? I mean Putin himself declared war on Ukraine. Have no idea what is going on in your head.
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Mar 1 2022 12:01AM     link to this




An unprovoked cyber attack would be an act of war. That would allow us to get involved.
IF an american sets foot into Ukraine putin would have justification in HIS mind to take back what was lost. he wouldnt stop with just ukraine.
putins mistake is being surrounded by "YES" men just like trump. putin is no idot. He's been planning this since he watched the USSR fall.



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