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Locked. No further comments permitted.How is Putin paying for this war?
Mar 5 2022 10:44AM more by sherkahn
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I brought up earlier that Putin pour more money into mercenaries than into keeping the Russian people’s needs met during the harsh sanctions imposed on Russia.

Putin isn’t sweating it. Seems he has the money to burn, and has not been reported.
He has been smuggling 30 tons of Sudanese gold into Russia since 2013.

1 ton of gold = $ 63.4 M US. (approx.)

30 tons x $63.4M x 9 Years = $17 Billion
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Mar 5 2022 11:17AM     link to this

Not buying that story...

Hes paying for it by way of the fact that the vegetable we call POTUS cancelled Keystone XL pipeline and put the US squarely in the position of dependence on foreign oil like Russia.

We used to be energy independent and export oil. That was good.

But in the bizzaro world of Progressive Global Elitism that had to be undone because "America First" is bad.


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Mar 5 2022 12:02PM     link to this

Jackrabit is right.

Putin nor the Russian people are paying for this war.

We are.

We were a net exporter of oil.

Introduce Brain Dead Biden and now we import billions of dollars of oil - some of which from Russia.

Putin is a Stalinist, he would have no qualms starving millions of his people to further advance restoring the USSR - which I think is his ultimate goal.

No one, least of all bread dead biden will stand up to him.
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Mar 5 2022 03:45PM     link to this

some good stuff out there about what he's been doing the last 6 or 7 years to sanction proof his war

seen a few that said cost 20b a day...WHICH WOULD BE GOOD

other stuff said 1billion a day...that would be bad...he could be there a long long time and that might be the plan for the west...create a new afghanistan for them



When will Putin’s army run out of money? Not fast enough to save Ukraine. -- attached



Research: ‘Ukraine war costs Russian military €20 billion per day’ - attached
02 March 2022 Consultancy.eu 3 min. read



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Mar 5 2022 03:56PM     link to this

ffs yes, in a year the whole oil export/import dynamic in the US has changed to the tune of billions of dollars.
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Mar 5 2022 04:57PM     link to this

that whole thing was a fucking joke...then of course the russian investigation

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Mar 5 2022 05:06PM     link to this

Visa, Mastercard suspend all operations in Russia, 'effective immediately'
The company says it felt 'compelled' to act


i guess if those fuckers can impede my porn watching...they can slow the russian down, though, their actions on porn probably took millions out of their economy already...russians being one of the biggest purveyors out there

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Mar 5 2022 09:59PM     link to this

Just when you think Gloomy has an intact neuron firing, lol
Nope

$17B might cover 1 day of war expense
He's got $650B of reserves from energy and other resource sales
Problem is cashing it in
Putin needs to win quick before he runs out of money
Then he needs to support an occupation force against guerilla warfare
In the long run, he's fucked

Unless the West goes full pussy retard
You should never go full pussy retard
Problem is we got a full pussy retard in the WH ------> see Afghanistan
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Mar 5 2022 10:54PM     link to this

We used to be energy independent and export oil. That was good.

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Energy independence is a huge myth like trickle down economics.

Oil is sold on the global market. US oil companies are kicking down some free barrels of oil. US oil companies are making a killing these days.
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Mar 6 2022 03:09AM     link to this

^ What?!

Nevermind, nothing can be made from any of that.
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Mar 6 2022 03:49AM     link to this

we could be having a problem with fertilizer also

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Mar 6 2022 05:14AM     link to this

Plenty of bullshit to farm.


Back on topic, looks like Sudan is a major role in Russia expansion and gold resources.
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Mar 6 2022 03:06PM     link to this

half he wealth of most or all of the oligarchs said to be putins

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Mar 6 2022 03:55PM     link to this

Again, we are paying for the war.

Remember who Gazprom is?

Putin dosen't care how much it costs in dollars/rubles in lives, nor any other measurement.

You have to have a politician that's of stronger will to win against that mindset.

Brain dead biden is not up to the task.

My only question, is once he finishes up Ukraine, which country will he invade next.
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Mar 6 2022 05:12PM     link to this

Hold that thought, Remo, as history proves you wrong.
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Mar 6 2022 05:29PM     link to this

proves him wrong at this moment...or we need to wait and SEE?

we might need to be seeing how this new iran deal is playing out...what is biden NEGOTIATING and with whom??






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Mar 6 2022 05:49PM     link to this

This Iran deal has the potential for future disaster.

Joe is just trying to cement Obumma's legacy by pushing a horrifically stupid idea forward.

This is just Joe's next catastrophe fuck up for the history.

Anybody that voted for this moron in the WH or thinks we are better off without 45... your totally fucking stupid.

Joe wants to use Russia to help solidify the Iran deal and I bet China is laughing. You cant make this up.

Joe is NOT acting in America's interest.



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Mar 6 2022 05:51PM     link to this

truly scary shit

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Mar 6 2022 08:14PM     link to this

Sherkahan sends Jackrabbit a slow pitch down the middle of the plate and he hits it out of the park. And we all saw it coming before it happened. It was that kind of pitch
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Mar 6 2022 09:04PM     link to this

@Sherkahn, Sudan REALLY!!!!!!

Uhm how about the fact that Russia supplies the EU with most there OIL and Gas. and with OIl prices so high since the increased demand from the USA since we are no longer Energy independent thanks to Brandon..

So oil and gas prices have skyrocketed and guess who has made a killing on this. Putin.

what libtards like Sherkahn fail to understand , is that when America was energy independent thanks in large part to Trump it drove prices down around the world. That means Putin was not making alot of money on it.

Its interesting everytime oil prices are high Putin invades someone
like in 2008 when he invaded Georgia
or in 2014 when he invaded Crimea and he went into Syria.
and now he is trying to take Ukraine.

If u really want to hurt Putin you would not sanction his country because we have been doing that for the last 10 to 15 years for various reasons.

What you would do is ramp up oil and gas production and then flood the world with oil and gas driving down prices. That would hurt him and there would not be a damn thing he could do about it
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Mar 6 2022 09:07PM     link to this

This all started when Obama drew a red line in Syria over chemical weapons
Assad and Putin both knew that Obama is a feckless coward
He did nothing and we ended up with a humanitarian crisis
Plus Israel had to tell us to fuck off cause they have to deal with Syria/Russia every day
Now, we have this completely worthless piece of excrement Biden
This guy will do exactly the wrong thing every fucking time, that's his track record
Not that I want Trump back, but holy shit!
Even using random decision making, you'd think Biden might get it right once?
Nope, not gonna happen

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Mar 7 2022 01:58AM     link to this

Jackrabbit is a Jack (_!_) ass. The person who is in office has very little to do with the the price of oil and gas! Also The Keystone Pipeline wasn’t gonna be moving conventional oil it would be moving a thing that’s called “ tar sand oil”. Very caustic and very corrosive on pipelines which makes them leak a lot. Overall as a whole we only get 6 to 10% of our oil from Russia.
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Mar 7 2022 06:34AM     link to this

Why yes, Vss4. Keep up on current events, and stop jacking off in the corner. The walls are looking very sticky and that will need a professional cleaning crew to clean up.

Not only is Sudan helping fund the mercs, they are practically bragging about it.
They want to be the controlling force in Africa as Russia tries to expand its power, and the group spear heading the Russian side of involvement is the Wagner mercenary unit.

Dumbass.
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Mar 7 2022 09:28AM     link to this

"The person who is in office has very little to do with the the price of oil and gas!"

It's only Monday and we may have the dumbest comment of the week already.

So the orange guy got to being net exporter of fossil fuels, energy independence, and lowest prices.

Biden comes in and puts a halt on new leases and shuts down Keystone and fuel prices soar, and he's the one sucking Putins dick for more oil imports....

How does this not directly related to who is in the WH?


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Mar 7 2022 10:45AM     link to this

So Biden is responsible for the price of oil in England, is responsible for the price of gas in Italy, is responsible for the price of gas in France?

Would everyone like to do something useful? Get a hold of your state senator and in the state assembly to temporarily suspend gas taxes in California! And remember we get another tax hike in July 1. JR I would love to have a battle of wits with you but it wouldn’t be fair to fight an unarmed person!

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Mar 7 2022 11:00AM     link to this

It’s called the market, jackass-rabbit.

The keystone pipeline has nothing to do with gas prices today. No has was going thru it, it was not active and it’s activity did not domino into other nations. Even if it was active the world market gas prices would still be high, and you would still be sucking hobo cock to get their empty paper cup to put gas in when you go to the gas station to put into your car.

Simpleton ignorant doofus.
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Mar 7 2022 11:42AM     link to this

You guys dont even seem to grasp that Biden.. through his blunderous foreign & energy policies is funding both sides of this war in Ukraine.

He's openly importing oil from Russia, will do a nuke deal with Iran for oil, is talking to Maduro in Venezuela for oil.

But yet she's putting sanctions in place on Russia for attacking Ukraine... because he eased the Nordstreim 2 sanction.

Absolutely baffling and confused foreign policy from a Dementia ridden politician dont you think?
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Mar 7 2022 02:58PM     link to this

Gloom guy, speaking of dumb asses, step back and think of what you just said.

Keystone dosen't have anything to do with market prices today (supply and demand).

Oh, really?

We both can agree that oil is a commodity and traded on the spot market. That's pretty transparant.

Deeper than that, just like a hard freeze in winter can influence Orange Juice prices in summer (I'll dumb it down for you - go rent "trading spaces" with Eddie Murphy) I think we both can agree that prices in a commodity market are influenced by many factors ahead of the selling of a product.

The cheapest part of an oil operation is the extraction and logistical delivery to the consumer (extraction, transportation, refining, delivery)

By far the most expensive parts of oil production is the infrastructure of finding new oilfields, building pipelines etc. That must be built before one drop is put into the consume's gas tank.

I think you would agree that there are expenses a company - ANY company must go through beyond just delivery of the tangible product. Oil Extraction is one of the most expensive industries in the world, their margins are not all that great, but, due to the sheer size, make up for in volume.

Think of how difficult it is go get oil out a place like the north sea, alaska, or other harsh environment. An interestng aside, one reson OPIC oil is so powerfull is a) proven reserves, ease of extraction (flows out due to pressure, no mechanical "pumps" needed - just a 'christmas tree' c) locality next to ports/ waterways d) sulfer content - it's a 'sweet' crude, requires less refining & less fouling of pipelines/ maintance - I could go on, but you get the idea.

When you have someone like brain dead biden come in and not only severely limit new oil drilling, but also halt delivery methods - the companies already have put billions of dollars in investment in building the pipeline. Surely you can see that.

To continue the OJ example - brain dead biden coming into office and shutting down domestic production. cutting off delivery - that's not equivalent to a hard freeze.

That's like going into California & Florida and chopping down all the trees that were producing oranges.

Production is not like it was.

Quit being an idot.

Yes, it's brain dead biden's fault. Actions in the US can have global inpact, just the same if OPIC cut it's production and shuttered wells and pipelines.

Jesus, what a moron.
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Mar 7 2022 03:12PM     link to this

Let’s ask the actual fucking experts:

“ Let me state the obvious first.

If President Biden had allowed Keystone XL to be completed, it would have made no difference regarding the current situation. It wouldn’t be helping to keep oil prices in check, because it wouldn’t have been completed yet (although it could have been if not for years of delays).”
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Mar 7 2022 03:38PM     link to this

You realize the keystone pipeline was going to bring foreign oil into the US right?
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Mar 7 2022 03:47PM     link to this

Sherkahn...yes, why are people counting on a pipeline that would bring Canadian oil to the us in 8 years as the solution to our current situation?
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Mar 7 2022 04:58PM     link to this

Biden didnt just shut down Keystone he revoked all new domestic leases. It's not just about Keystone moron.

And before that happened price of gas in OC was just under $3/gallon.

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Mar 7 2022 05:13PM     link to this

oil is still coming in thru rail


EVEN biden's energy secretary had to hold back laugh a bit talking about pipelines are the way to go


canada bpd expected to keep rising

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Mar 7 2022 05:40PM     link to this

^ that's the real truth..

Keystone would actually make the transport 'greener' instead of transport by Semi Trucks and railcars.

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Mar 7 2022 10:19PM     link to this

You guys crack me up
It's as if nobody does any homework at all around here

There already IS an operating Keystone Pipeline Phases 1, 2 & 3 since fucking 2010
Only the Phase 4 expansion segment has failed to receive permits
If it had received permits in a timely fashion, it would ALREADY be bringing product from Canada.
AND, it was supposed to also carry US crude from Montana/South Dakota to refineries in the Gulf Coast

So, YES.........Gloom guy is full of shit, as usual (along with his sidekick Igor "BackNine" Putin
There are a lot of factors at play but commodity markets work on the "margin"
A little more or less supply can make a big difference in price
Oh, by the way, there already ARE 190,000 miles of liquid petroleum pipelines in the US (see link)
2.4 MILLION miles of natural gas lines including all the ones that serve your fucking homes
They are by far and away safer than transporting the same product above ground thru urban areas than trucks/railroads..........some of you are just fucking stupid and don't seem to care what you say or what you believe

Now, let's talk about something much closer to our hearts, k?
Califuckingornia

This state has THE stupidest stupid people being stupid of any location in the country. CA has huge fields of oil/gas but has slipped from #3 in production to #6, on its way to last if Newsome has his way.
Since there are no pipelines from the Gulf Coast to CA and we don't produce enough (even though we have enough to produce if we didn't have such fucking stupid woke Progs), we have to IMPORT oil from overseas.........some of which is Russian, lol

Gloom, BackNine and any other idiot making the arguments I see above are disingenuous, moronic liars OR they simply are TOO fucking stupid to understand what makes a market and how they work.........Does it matter which one it is or maybe it's both?


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Mar 7 2022 10:28PM     link to this

Allow me to add that this "concept" that if we just don't produce some product we find morally abhorrent, we're just really awesomely wonderful virtuous people is another fucking Woke Prog conceit.

In LA, those morons are going to outlaw natural gas hookups to new homes and apartments, lol
Is there anything stupider than outlawing the cleanest burning energy we have available and requiring it to come from the one that is more expensive AND more uncertain, electricity?

And, we don't even produce enough of that in CA, as we are spending huge amounts of money to buy it from Arizona and Nevada.

People are here and they require energy, not producing it here means we are simply "outsourcing" the pollution and related issues to somewhere else on the globe........in our case, we are literally forcing ourselves to buy Russian oil in CA by not producing our own.

I know I sound like a broken record but truly...........
Do a good deed, kill a Prog today!

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Mar 7 2022 10:58PM     link to this

these fuckers are dangerous to the world

been routinely calling for three or four to get the lead gift...might need to be 10-12 and hope it can get the others to wake the fuck up

israel might be better off aligning with russia in the near future...not the US


in the meantime russia is in the middle of the negotiations with the new iran deal...biden is thinking madero/venezuela could be a good option for replacement oil...not texas, alaska or easier from canada





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Mar 7 2022 11:11PM     link to this

putin and kremlin still on twitter?

few of those lead presents for leaders of twitter and FB...that might actually be too nice btw




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Mar 7 2022 11:13PM     link to this

GBD🖕🏼 Soon enough the price of oil and gas will be so high you will be clamoring to get rid of your ICE vehicles for an EV. Already gone solar and have my EV coming. We absolutely have to wean our self off of fossil fuels. Of course if Putin ends up pushing his little red button well I’ll be fucked anyway so doesn’t really matter nobody will be needing oil then.
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Mar 8 2022 10:26AM     link to this

@thebacknine, that is not going to work.. the infrastructure in cali is not setup for ev, vehicles. If everyone in cali had ev vehicles then that would totally tax the weak power grid in cali and u would have constant power outages. Also for a lot of ppl electric vehicles are not affordable.

On top of that once the batteries die on those cars you pretty much have to replace the car. So the used car market in that regard would be dead

fossil fuels are the best choice for now and wheening ourselves off of them should be done over a 50 year time period not a 5 year period

This whole Ukraine thing is really not the issue here, that is just an excuse. The problem is the Biden administration is hostile to the oil and gas companies here in the US and they stopped the fed leases for new frakking and drilling for oil, and that is ultimately the problem and not Putin.

In Europe however, Putin is a big problem since they use alot of Russian oil and have a very limited reserve supply
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Mar 8 2022 11:21PM     link to this

"Soon enough the price of oil and gas will be so high you will be clamoring to get rid of your ICE vehicles for an EV. Already gone solar and have my EV coming. We absolutely have to wean our self off of fossil fuels."

Yawn, another clueless imbecilic utopian Prog virtue signaller completely convinced that it's all rainbows and unicorns if we just wish upon a star hard enough. There's a whole kettle of stupid in that post above.

By all means, let's wean ourselves off fossil fuels and replace that with a new addiction to nickel, lithium, cobalt, manganese and some other shit we need to dig big holes to get at.
Pollution from digging that shit up? Forget that part, we're virtuous people.
Additional carbon spewed out to do all this? We're good, we won't count that shit
Disposal at end of life? No worries, we'll just ignore that part.
Uneconomic without large government subsidies and tax incentives? See my last answer...just ignore that part.
Less carbon pollution? Absolutely! Ignore the fact that we just moved the source from your ICE to somewhere else, probably Wash., Ore., Nevada, etc. Fuck those guys anyway.
What? You say we have to cover 5% or more of our total land area in solar/windmills in order to replace existing energy production? Look, we're on a roll of ignorance....so ignore that too.
How many birds will we kill? Ignore
How many land animals displaced? Ignore
Ignore, ignore, fuggedaboutit, ignore, nothing to see here, its all good.

The best part about increasing carbon prices is, if they go high enough
Maybe someday, solar/wind will make sense

Btw, nice move on the finger, Igor.
You are one clever blogger.


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Mar 9 2022 09:40AM     link to this

This whole Ukraine thing is really not the issue here, that is just an excuse. The problem is the Biden administration is hostile to the oil and gas companies here in the US and they stopped the fed leases for new frakking and drilling for oil, and that is ultimately the problem and not Putin.

Uh, no, you got it wrong.

The carnage we see in Ukraine is all Putin, and you are just making excuses to make yourself feel better for supporting those who supported this thug.


The administration is pulling backs the efforts that cause environmental damage and climate change.
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Mar 9 2022 11:15AM     link to this

On Feb 22nd 2022 Biden halted new gas and oil drilling in the name of "climate change".

Two days later Putin invades Ukraine.

The timing is suspicious...

Just like when Putin started reconstructing Nordstreim 2 pipeline 4 days after Biden drops those sanctions after being sworn in as POTUS.

Biden is Putins fucking lapdog.

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Mar 9 2022 11:30AM     link to this

The attack in Ukraine is here and now under Bidens watch because he has proven to be a weak and pathetic leader
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Mar 9 2022 02:51PM     link to this

Jackrabbit33, have you ever tried fact checking your statements?
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Mar 9 2022 02:55PM     link to this

Those are facts.
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Mar 9 2022 02:55PM     link to this

Done
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