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not only blacks...WLM on the way dammit
Mar 3 2023 04:55PM more by InsearchofStarfish
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Utah police pulled the white man over because he was allegedly driving without license plates


and killed...so now you can quit the race shit



probably should start complying a bit more...white people also







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Angler1
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Mar 3 2023 05:00PM     link to this

But did he have a tan?
Marrisa_G
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Mar 3 2023 05:21PM     link to this

"He has been studying law the last few years . . . "

Another case of our schools empowering people to "stand up for your rights!" and, "You don't need to comply with an unconstitutional demand!" And add TikTok to that madness as well.

Only they forgot one thing - when someone has a gun in your face you are only a split second, and one jumpy trigger finger, away from being eliminated from the gene pool. He may have been well within his rights to not obey the commands of LEO's, but he is still dead! Maybe on his grave marker they will engrave, "He was within his rights!" Stupid, stupid, stupid! Senseless loss of a seemingly decent young person because nobody told him how dangerous it was to not comply with a LEO's commands. It really doesn't hurt to do so, if they had no right to get you out of the car in the first place then the courts may disallow everything that followed (fruit of the poisonous tree). And, you can sue them for false arrest! But you can't sue them if you are dead!

There are plenty of things in this world to risk your life on in taking a stand, but that wasn't one of them!
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Mar 3 2023 05:25PM     link to this

And yes, I will go where others dare to go in saying that Blacks seem to have the monopoly on this kind of stupid behavior. What are their parents teaching them (or not teaching them)? It is absolutely sickening to see these types of incidents almost everyday in America now. What have we become? How have we failed our children so much?
sleepyone
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Mar 3 2023 06:00PM     link to this

Should’ve complied. Another one bites the dust.
gunner67
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Mar 3 2023 06:28PM     link to this

That's what I say, comply, don't run your mouth thinking you're smarter or better, and you'll have your day in court, and if you were right you might get a nice settlement. If you know they have a quick trigger finger, why give them a reason?
June.Moon
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Mar 4 2023 01:55AM     link to this

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sinful_one66
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Mar 4 2023 02:44AM     link to this

FBI stats show that more whites get shot by cops than blks. The media only finds it news worthy when blks get shot by anyone of another color.

People need to stop drinking the punch.
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Mar 4 2023 03:47AM     link to this

^^^ been that way for quite sometime. but the truth or proper stats don't make for a headline like the usual crap.
orangepeanut
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Mar 4 2023 07:23AM     link to this

Sinful, it's almost like there are more white people in America and blacks are a minority. 🤔

Don't misrepresent the numbers. Per capita, black Americans face a significantly higher rate of police violence than white Americans do. The current statistics from 2015 to now is 2.3 per million for white Americans and 5.9 per million for black Americans.

I hate when people spread bullshit like yours. It makes it clear you don't understand shit. I'm not here to take sides, but I'll not cool with people misrepresenting the facts to feed their own misleading narrative.
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Mar 4 2023 07:50AM     link to this

Black, White, Brown - the best way to handle the cops is like this:
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Mar 4 2023 08:37AM     link to this

So once the police kill someone white at a traffic stop, then clearly all statistics magically don’t matter. Even if the ratio were 500 to 1, once a white guy gets killed by the police, there is no longer evidence of police targeting blacks?

Isn’t that logic in and of itself racist? Since it happened to a white guy, that negates any patten of racism.


Don’t you think blacks might not comply because of the fear that they may be killed when stopped by the police? That’s called a fight or flight response and it is involuntary.



Fight Or Flight Response

The fight or flight response is an automatic physiological reaction to an event that is perceived as stressful or frightening. The perception of threat activates the sympathetic nervous system and triggers an acute stress response that prepares the body to fight or flee. These responses are evolutionary adaptations to increase chances of survival in threatening situations.






Harpooner
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Mar 4 2023 09:48AM     link to this

Marrisa - You’re one of the smartest people here, but your comment about the behavior of Black people is disappointing. There have literally been Black people with their hands up who’ve been shot by police. A few years ago, a Black guy was laying on the ground with both arms raised up and the fucking cop still shot him. And what about the Black guy who was recently dragged out of his car by cops and then beaten to death for no reason while he was in fucking handcuffs. As a white guy, I don’t have much to fear from being pulled over by the cops. That’s not necessarily the case for a Black man. My behavior would not be influenced by fear, but I can see how a Black person would be.
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Mar 4 2023 09:56AM     link to this

june moon is a godsend to the boring ass blogs

not sure why you guys just don't make a club, stop dominating the blogs so you can guys can jerk off to each other about politics, suggestion, name it the "circle jerk club"

excluding Marissa, I only read what a female has written, she and others can post anything they want

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Mar 4 2023 10:31AM     link to this

Not obeying the police seems to run in the family.

She claims to be "one of the sovereign people of Utah"

Sovereign citizens believe they are not under the jurisdiction of the federal government and consider themselves exempt from U.S. law. They use a variety of conspiracy theories and falsehoods to justify their beliefs and their activities, some of which are illegal and violent.



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Mar 4 2023 10:32AM     link to this

Not sure why anyone would demand their rights, fight, resist or in any way do anything to irritate LE. As Marissa said, you might get the privilege of posting that your rights were violated on your gravestone.

In almost every single instance where anyone of any color is killed by LE, it involves resisting, fleeing, fighting, sudden motions of hands, etc. If the LE asks me to stand on my head and chant, I will just ask, how loudly?
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Mar 4 2023 10:39AM     link to this

Whit people still have a large majority in this country. Every stat you can think is going to be dominated by them if you’re only looking at volume. It’s the proportion of a population that you need to focus. Math is hard
sam_wilson
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Mar 4 2023 11:06AM     link to this

Another thread with disgusting comments about a whole group of people with zero nuance.

These bigoted comments demonstrate that some of these posters have not had candid conversations with actual black people about this subject.

Or maybe they have, and just ignored it because it did not coincide with their filtered view of the topic.

If you want to say you are superior to black folks, stop licking around the edges and just say it.

Also...

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Ethnocentrism in social science and anthropology—as well as in colloquial English discourse—means to apply one's own culture or ethnicity as a frame of reference to judge other cultures, practices, behaviors, beliefs, and people, instead of using the standards of the particular culture involved. Since this judgment is often negative, some people also use the term to refer to the belief that one's culture is superior to, or more correct or normal than, all others—especially regarding the distinctions that define each ethnicity's cultural identity, such as language, behavior, customs, and religion.[1] In common usage, it can also simply mean any culturally biased judgment.[2]


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InsearchofStarfish
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Mar 4 2023 11:42AM     link to this

holy shit...you dudes are too easy

btw, considering you ball lick rahcrener only...which is what you have said basically...absolutely anything coming from you is worthless


take the fucking thread for what it is

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Mar 4 2023 11:58AM     link to this

@Harpooner

I am going to stick to my guns (no pun intended) on this one. I do not consider myself a racist, but I recognize that someone else may see me that way. I was born in Georgia (US) so I definitely have a southern style education and upbringing, but I don't think that should automatically qualify me as being racist.

If you view these shootings in reverse, that is from the point of when the bullet leaves the barrel, then ask yourself why that was necessary, you will ultimately reach a point where you will see a stupid act on the part of the victim. The critical point is when an officer actually pulls his weapon out. I don't believe that they predominantly do that just because someone is black, they do it because the victim is not obeying their commands to;

Keep your hands on the steering wheel where I can see them.
Step out of the car.
Turn the ignition off.
Or any of the numerous requests or demands that they make that don't seem too threatening.

It is usually somewhere at these critical junctions that the victim decides that he needs to argue with the officer and claim his innocence, which raises the fear level of the officer and makes him feel the need to pull the weapon. And that is the critical point that could, and should have been avoided by simply obeying the officers instructions. Almost all of these types of incidents involve getting to the point of having a weapon displayed and yet the victim STILL refuses to obey, even arguing more vigorously, which only heightens the tension. My point is once the incident escalates to having a weapon pointed at you then shut the fuck up, pay attention, and follow
instructions. Anything else is potentially suicidal! This is the simple lesson that seems to not being taught and learned in the black communities. I think it is tragic that anybody, regardless of race, should perish like this, but I put the blame squarely on the lack of parenting and not learning some of the most basic things we should learn as children; respect authority - and if they they have a weapon and you don't, then double respect them!

There are certainly some bad cops in the barrel, no doubt about that. There have been some egregious acts committed by some of them, like the ones you have mentioned. I believe that some cops are actually looking forward to the experience of shooting someone (kind of a "thrill kill" situation). So the moral of the story should be; don't give them an excuse!

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Mar 4 2023 12:09PM     link to this

Even in the California Drivers Manual, there is a section about what to do at a LE stop of your vehicle. If people would only heed what has been told to them.

Law Enforcement Stops

During a Law Enforcement Stop

Turn on your right turn signal to acknowledge that you see the officer.

Move completely onto the right shoulder, even if in the carpool/HOV
lane. Stop in a well-lit area when possible
.
Turn off your radio.

Remain inside your vehicle unless directed to get out by the officer.

Roll down your window after stopping your vehicle and before the
officer makes contact with you.

The driver and all passengers should place their hands in clear view
before the officer makes contact with them.

It goes on to review rights but states:

Even if you believe your rights were violated, you should not engage
in physical resistance or violence against the officer. If an officer
does something that you believe violates your rights, you can voice your
objection, but you should not physically resist. Everyone has the right to
be safe during a traffic stop. Your safety and the officer�s safety could be
jeopardized if the situation escalates with physical resistance or violence
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Mar 4 2023 12:53PM     link to this

In reviewing numbers, don't lose sight of the number of arrests and interactions with LE.

2019, Black Americans accounted for 26.6% of all arrests, nearly twice their percentage of the population (using 13.6% the 2021 census data).
They accounted for 36.4% of arrests for violent crimes, or 2.7 times their percentage of the population.

With these higher percentage numbers of total arrests and violent crimes arrests, there are far more 'interactions' between Black Americans and LE, which could certainly account for the noted increase as a percentage of LE on black violence. The more interactions, the greater chance of a violent interaction.

We all need to understand the numbers and look at the entire picture. There are too many 'narratives' that do not give all the data. People throw around the 'numbers' they have been told or they want to believe. All data must be taken in context.

If my group has a nearly 3 times greater number arrests for violent crime, I guess I might expect my group to have nearly 3 times the number of killings at the hands of LE.
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Mar 4 2023 01:02PM     link to this

It's great that someone mentioned proportionality, but it works both ways:

1) In New York City, black people commit about 75% of all shootings, even though they’re 23% percent of the population
2) In Chicago, black people commit about 80% of all shootings, though they’re less 1/3 of the population
3) In Los Angeles, black people commit 44% percent of all violent crime, though they’re 9% percent of the population
4) In St. Louis, black people commit 90% of homicides, though they’re 4% to 6% of the population

Data Source: US Dept of Justice and FBI

So, black people (specially black men) will proportionally have more encounters with police because they are committing proportionally much higher violent crime. Now let the excuses commence...
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Mar 4 2023 01:48PM     link to this

Candyman, your numbers and my numbers don't matter. They don't fit the 'narrative' so they are ignored.
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Mar 4 2023 02:02PM     link to this

This might shock your opinion of me being racist but I actually understand and empathize why black commit a high proportion of crimes; they are still being discriminated against, plain and simple. At a time of record low unemployment they still have problems finding jobs. I get that! I understand that! I empathize with that! The higher crime rates are mostly a byproduct of their circumstances. But that does not excuse someone disobeying a lawful order by the authorities. Its not brain surgery - 1) avoid escalating something as simple as a traffic stop into something much bigger, and 2) as soon as the weapons come out, shut up and obey their commands without comments, criticisms, or delay. Get your citation and go home to dinner with the wife and kids!
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Mar 4 2023 05:10PM     link to this

Someone said: "Don’t you think blacks might not comply because of the fear that they may be killed when stopped by the police? That’s called a fight or flight response and it is involuntary."

So that makes it a great idea to call the cop with a gun a pig, a bitch, or a motherfucker, and threaten to kick his ass...it happens a lot!

Smart. Very smart.
InsearchofStarfish
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Mar 4 2023 08:18PM     link to this

it's very unfortunate...anyone wanting to be LE these days needs to have their fking heads examined...which is what the left wants


let's see if a NEW direction in chicago can help...getting rid of that ugly fucking carpet muncher







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Mar 4 2023 08:23PM     link to this

More fodder for the racists
And that includes the non-racist racist progressives on this site
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Mar 4 2023 08:25PM     link to this

Anybody wonder why more Asians aren't shot?
By any color popo?
InsearchofStarfish
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Mar 4 2023 08:31PM     link to this

btw, any progressives on here thinking she was doing a good job


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Mar 4 2023 08:37PM     link to this

What she?
Lori Lightfoot?
Doesn't matter what anybody here thinks.
Only 17% of progressive Chicago thought she was.
Hate to be the person who gets her endorsement
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Mar 4 2023 09:19PM     link to this

More blacks would get away if they only PULL UP YOUR FUCKING PANTS !
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