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As long as people stay away from you the population should be fine.
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So the conclusion is inconclusive?
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Just proves people are sheep and brainwashing works...
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"Just proves people are sheep and brainwashing works..."
Exactly.
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Angler is my right wing homie 💥🫱🏻🫲🏽
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These two are really, really good friends. No, you don't understand, I mean reeeaaallly good friends. I'm talking Starbucks type friends.
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I hope NR didn't die of the Rona.
That would be the height of irony.
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It was probably the clot shots...
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I was always against wearing a mask. I would rather stay home than wear one to the grocery store. Thank God for home deliveries. The effects of wearing a mask will always be inconclusive due to the this glorious invention we call the internet and subsequent blogging. For every article claiming the effectiveness of wearing mask there is a corresponding rebuttal with equally convincing (if not twisted) data to support the complete opposite view.
HOWEVER, I respect the decision to wear a mask by ANYONE. In a land of supposed "Freedom of Choice", why is it that some people feel it necessary to belittle, slander, or even attempt to subjugate people who have made their own freedom of choice to wear a mask? That is the kind of extremism that I find myself frequently shaking my head in disbelief at. Extremism, in all of its ugly forms, is the cancer that may ultimately destroy this country.
And I would like to reiterate the most accurate definition of "fanatic" that I have ever heard:
A "fanatic" is someone who won't change their mind, and won't change the subject."
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It’s all a conspiracy 💋
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Marissa, I always enjoy reading your POV, however, with regard to masks there is literally no argument. There has NEVER been a RCT that showed masks were effective in stoppng the spread of a virus. Even the supposedly superior N95 masks. If someone is wearing a mask they are either virtue signalling or ill informed. Either way I want nothing to do with them. They have every right to wear one, just has they have a right to walk down the street with a banana in their ear. I'm not going to confront them or belittle them, I'm just going to ignore them.
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There is an Axiom that goes like this, " Do not make less of yourself " Virtue signaling of wearing a mask out doors is one.
And then there is, That which one claims to have, maybe the very think that which they will become.
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things I learned from Covid masks
social distancing is great, too many assholes crowding my space, people in general are nasty fucks
masks finally got people to shut the fuck up
I learned and we all learned that wearing masks kept tiny droplets of spit exhaling outwards up to 3 feet
so now, we all know, the science proves, that when you eat out and the chatty server is leaning over your table, the cook talks over your food, you are eating and drinking their spit
possibly infected spit
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I'd like to infect you with a few chingasos.
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While I haven't worn a mask much for the past year, I wore one a few weeks ago while I caught something (not covid, probably flu) because I figured I wanted to minimize exposure to other people. A side benefit I found is that while sick, the warmer air around the mask eased my sore throat.
I dont think its fair to assume that a masked person is virtue signaling. Maybe the person is actually sick too but has to leave the house for something. Maybe the mask is for the wearer's benefit.
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@ SheriffBart
When you say, "If someone is wearing a mask they are either virtue signalling or ill informed." I assume that you are not talking about people who:
1) May have flu-like symptoms and are trying to be socially responsible in not infecting another person.
2) Have an already compromised immune system due to any number of reasons (including chemotherapy).
3) Have a close relative with a compromised immune system that they don't want to kill through complacency.
4) Are not signalling "If you aren't with us then you are against us!", but instead believe the most respected scientists in the world who have spent their entire adulthood studying their respective fields instead of podcasters that probably never went to college.
I agree with your "freedom of choice" to not have anything to do with them, but your all-inclusive statement of ". . . either virtue signalling or ill informed" is clearly belittling them for making their own "freedom of choice." So which is it, do we all have freedom of choice, or is it reserved for only those who agree with you? Had your statement started out with, "In my opinion. . . " then it would have been unassailable, but as formatted and presented it is not.
And please don't resort to the "studies have clearly shown" argument. You could post a link to an article against masks and I could post a link to an article in favor of them. We could fill a thousand blogs by going back and forth like that. It is an endless game with no such thing as a declared winner. I am only interested in "freedom of choice" aspect of this debate.
But here is something to give some thought to: 99.999% of all the people who have died due to complications from viruses similar to the flu or COVID in the entire history of civilization were essentially killed by someone else who passed it on to them. [That is a self-evident truth that requires no citation]
And the next time you find yourself in an operating room for a surgical procedure I hope you don't have a doctor that says, "Masks? We don't need no fucking masks!"
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BOOM! Marissa G
DROP the MIC !
Impressive
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natural selection is working . we need to weed out all the stupid people. At this point and time with all the covid vaccine if you catch covid and died i can't really feel bad for you. It is freedom of choice. if you don't want to wear one don't'
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@GoBallsDeep
Side note: I wonder if anyone in the room of the White House when they were discussing the pros and cons of mask mandates made the statement (or even shared the thought), "Bank robberies are going to go through the roof!" And they probably would have if the banks hadn't closed their lobbies too! But now that we are in this moment of indecision and personal choice, banks might be the only ones' to come out and actually prohibit wearing masks inside the bank.
There was, I believe, a grocery store that actually prohibited the wearing of masks inside the store but that was a pure political statement. I wonder if they still have that policy in place after a couple of months of reduced revenues. Does anyone remember the name of that store?
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Marissa, as soon as someone mentions wearing masks in an operating room in the same discussion about wearing masks to prevent the spread of a virus I know they don't what they're talking about.
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Masks?
Fuck masks.
I wear a few to improve my looks.
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^^ It was facetious.
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I believe they helped me ).gif)
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Still no NR?
I'll check the obits.
Personally, I don't give a shit if you wear a mask
And make no judgement about you, if you do
For all the reasons listed by Marissa
I just ask you mask nazi morons to give me the same consideration
No matter how loud you scream about it, the results clearly show that your opinion has no scientific factual basis
So stfu
Now, on to more pressing matters
If I were to tongue lash Marissa's mons veneris
Would my IQ increase?
A thought worthy of consideration
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"If I were to tongue lash Marissa's mons veneris
Would my IQ increase?
A thought worthy of consideration"
If your IQ doubled it would hit 2.
So a 100% increase.
Smile meters would increase 2000%.
Oh the fun.
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there is something, an effect, when one believes something.
maybe some people believe the mask protect them and because they truly believe so, it is so.
placebo?
another thing is that for those of us who are not chemists or doctors, is the common sense.
and its hard to argue against common sense.
in this case common sense tells us that a particle cannot get through such a filter the mask has.
now science says something different but for common sense'rs it can be difficult to believe.
traveling a bit in Asia, i always noted them people using masks on airports etc, well before covid came around.
i guess maybe they are also ill-informed.
and i am not wearing masks but can understand some of those who do and their reasoning.
well not the guy in the car driving by himself or the dude walking his dog - with a mask on.
those people are special.
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There's really nothing new here in terms of new information. This is basically a repeat of the Cochrane review from 2020 with a few more data points, so I'm not surprised they get the same results when most data had been in their prior meta-analysis.
The one thing I will say is that there's a difference between measuring the *average* effect of masks on community transmission, whereby the people in the treatment arm weren't always compliant about wearing masks, and measuring the probability of infection of a single person who uses a well-fitted N95 (like the 3M Aura which I recommend). This study really doesn't speak to the latter. Something to consider if you wish to continue to mask in crowded public places during any future infection wave, although I would caution anyone to use more than just a mask if they wish to prevent infection.
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^ The problem is that if we do not respect another person's "belief", or their right to believe in what they want to believe in, then what else will we consider moronic; their nationality, the food they eat (or don't eat, think: vegan), sexual orientation, political party, or even religion. These biases, if not outright hatred, accumulate to the point that we find the circle of people we would call, or even might call friends dramatically shrinks. If one is a loner by nature then there is no perceived need to stop the biases - loners don't need friends (or so they think). And if one is a loner because they just can't seem to find someone that will listen to them, to understand them, or maybe even come around to their way of thinking, then they can potentially become volatile. What is the common thread amongst all of these people that commit these terrible shootings of schools, nightclubs, and shopping malls (besides being gun enthusiast)? They are/were loners!
Being a loner is not healthy! And in my opinion, being intolerant of other people's belief systems and freedom of choices is not healthy either. "HATRED is like taking poison - and expecting the other person to die from it!" Haters are only hurting themselves.
HX is a (potentially) great platform for the expression of ideas and social interaction amongst those who might be of a similar mindset. What blows my mind is the amount of people that seem to go out of their way to disrespect or ridicule other supposedly same mindset people to the point of alienation. Seems counterproductive to me.
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Actually now ^^
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@NightRider
When I first looked at the Cochrane report I was immediately drawn to the fact that this was not a double-blind randomized study (the gold standard) in itself but rather an accumulation of other studies. They simply took (which always gives you the opportunity to "cherry pick") other sets of data and combined them into a new dataset to use for analysis. There are so many variable involved in getting a virus that it is impossible (in my view) to get pure data. For example;
Group A (1,000 participants)
Group B (5,000 participants)
Group C (9,000 participants)
How many of Group A didn't go shopping and touch things like grocery carts or handrails at the mall vs. the Group B participants that did? And how does that affect Group A's weighted balance?
How many Group B participants allowed friends or family members to visit them vs. those that didn't?
The amount of combinations and permutations can become staggering! There is simply no way to come to anything that resembles a conclusive finding in masking efficacy using this type of data. In fact, the only real way to come to a conclusion like the Cochrane report is to take a couple of thousand people who are told to wear masks 24/7, put them in sterilized rooms, lock them up for 30 days to make sure everyone is healthy before the test begins, then split them into 2 groups and intentionally infect one group while keeping the other as a placebo control. Not likely to happen!
The last two pertinent sentences of the Cochrane report summed up its own problems:
"The results might change when further evidence becomes available. Relatively low numbers of people followed the guidance about wearing masks or about hand hygiene, which may have affected the results of the studies." Ya' think!
And good conclusive reports don't contain the words "might" or "may" in their summaries. So I choose to believe that this report is inconclusive about anything!
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It appears as though you both pointed to the proximate flaw in the Great Masking of America.
Without training in proper mask usage and monitoring the entire adult population to do so, there is no effective masking.
Let's face it, it was really just about making you feel safer......not actually about making you safer.
PS. I'm savoring, MG.
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yyzed forgot to mention that wearing masks for a few years messed up a lot of
children's social and emotional growth.
Weren't there several studies that concluded that masks didn't really work.
Also the CDC data showed that it was the elderly, those over 59 and many not
in the workforce that died of covid
The younger you were the less likely you would die of covid and yet children
were forced to wear masks at school and the workforce laid off and small
businesses shut down.
The probability of one dying of covid was less than 1%.
If the government was so concerned about the spread of covid, why didn't they tell you
to get a space suits or a shield that just covered your head. At least everyone could
see your face and you wouldn't have to cover your nose and mouth.
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Children go home after school and sometimes their grandparents live with them or at least visit or babysit them on occasion. I guess it's OK to use really relaxed standards for the young, I mean, afterall, it shouldn't be a problem - until it's a problem and an elderly family member dies out of complacency. Ooops! Too late to change your opinion and comply! The horse is already out of the barn and the damage has already been done.
People seem to want to only focus on their individual rights and freedoms (our "ME" culture) with absolutely no regard for the wellbeing of their family, co-workers, friends, neighbors, etc., etc. When the consequences may include killing someone through apathy and complacency, I call that the epitome of selfishness. And when someone KNOWS that their actions (or inactions) even MAY cause someone else harm (or possibly death) and they still don't care, I think that is sociopathic.
I hate masks. I hated the mandates. I saw multiple problems with how the government tried to manage the early stages of the pandemic and I was angry at them for it. There were times when I thought the whole thing was bullshit. But in the end, a stronger guiding force dictated my actions; a simple premise that I was taught at a young age and carried into my adult life - "Love thy neighbor." And, of course, the flip side of that should be self-evident, "Don't do stupid shit that might kill your neighbor!"
For every 100 reports, blogs, or podcasts that say mask are ineffective there are 100 that say they are. I am not a microbiologist (and neither is Alex Jones, for example) so it is hard for me to ascertain the truth with such an abundance of conflicting information (although I usually look to scientists to answer questions about science, not podcasters selling supplements). But in a situation with such dire consequences of being on the wrong side of the fence, I decided to err on the side of caution. So call me "virtue signalling" or "ill-informed" if you like. but I sleep better at night knowing that I did everything possible on my part to help instead of hurt the situation.
@DrBoogie
I think the harmful effects on the children was not wearing a mask. Hell, they all have to wear a cast at sometime in their childhood but I don't think they carry trauma into their adult lives because of it. The main problem was the lack of social interaction at school with their peers for an extended period of time during a critical time in their social development. But given the magnitude of the pandemic, I don't see how that could have been avoided without just rolling the dice and hoping for the best.
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BTW - I was an ardent TRUMP GIRL, and to some extent I still am. But when he suggested that scientists should study and evaluate injecting bleach to kill the virus I immediately knew that this stupid motherfucker should not have a voice in this conversation ever again!
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I only wear a mask to conceal my identity or so old people in doctor’s offices don’t have a heart attack because they still live in paranoia.
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"If your IQ doubled it would hit 2.
So a 100% increase."
I would gladly accept that
PS. More please, MG.
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