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Locked. No further comments permitted.TRUMP indickedment - 5? carry on
Apr 2 2023 09:53PM more by InsearchofStarfish
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surely can't end on that...


      
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Apr 2 2023 10:00PM     link to this

Indickedment?
I'm afraid to ask what that is
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Apr 2 2023 10:04PM     link to this

Wait until after the mugshot
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Apr 2 2023 10:08PM     link to this

Is this the one you're continuing?
The previous blog should always be linked so that those of us who are drinking heavily have an excuse to take another shot.
Thank you.
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Apr 2 2023 10:09PM     link to this

Link didn't work, apologies
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InsearchofStarfish
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Apr 2 2023 10:09PM     link to this

have an idea MG as you said you watch everything....i try to also, BUT once i hear SHIT spewing i reach for the clicker...either side

link your two best sources/articles/pods for EACH side of this thing

and let us all go thru each one...i think some on the right have said you just NEED to wait and see, but they aren't holding their breath for good reasons. what are those reasons?

BTW, the libbies are NEVER wait and SEE...they are dogs chasing rabbits and guess what? it all has amounted to NADA. so i keep saying let's see what happens. i'm still waiting on the NUKE/SPY info sale from the FBI raid...everyone was so confident in...BUT no one took the BET...which was at least 2-1 odds...mighta been more. so all bluster fucks


so let's get it started


NO FUCKING DEFLECTION SHIT ASSHOLES it's not needed





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Apr 2 2023 10:16PM     link to this

NYT & WSJ & OC Register Sunday editorial section
Laugh all you want but Hoiles was a very long time Libertarian and they have a legit 3rd party view

The rest is garbage media
All your cable and networks.......garbage
Online media....... garbage
That's it, happy now?

InsearchofStarfish
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Apr 2 2023 10:16PM     link to this

you got the link


that's not how you spell it? maybe i was thinking about him getting dicked in NY





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Apr 2 2023 10:19PM     link to this



Probably he's getting dicked right now
Secret Service watching

Indictment
It's a fucked up word, for sure
InsearchofStarfish
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Apr 2 2023 10:20PM     link to this

not looking for that...looking for an exact fucking copy of an article/interview/pod...that was kind of intimated at?

one where people can look at both sides of this objectively? or as objective as one can?


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Apr 2 2023 10:21PM     link to this

tues should be fun for everyone

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Apr 2 2023 10:25PM     link to this

Good luck on that one, lol
Honestly, there's the occasional NYT essay, usually from a guest writer
WSJ has them for sure cause they don't really care for Trump at all
Same with OCR

You looking for a specific article linked that has both sides?
No can do, all those publications require a subscription
I could link but you couldn't open
Sorry
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Apr 2 2023 10:31PM     link to this

You know, there's worse things than being Trump or liking him
You could be SOA
Just like Trump, he's a self righteous asshole but he don't got the billion $$$



Note to self: SOA never addressed the 3 issues raised at the outset of his blog
Conclusion: possible brain implosion
InsearchofStarfish
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Apr 2 2023 11:14PM     link to this

btw...not about liking trump or not...i had already said he should not be pres in 2024. that would be a shit show of shit shows...ALL retribution

so this clip...sure many will find fault. Mkelly? any love loss there with trump?

alan dershowitz might be trying to SELL his book. BUT is it possible to hear someone with this much knowledge or do we have to throw it away due to his perfect marketing opportunity for his book

he did say he does not know what they have...only surmising based on what has been in the court previously. he said he will continue to vote for biden...so that's kinda hard to take someone seriously at that point



BTW...MK would never need toilet paper around me...well about 7 years ago that was the case...lil too old now for that kinda love







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Apr 3 2023 05:35AM     link to this

link a clip about on the other side of this...one that you found to be good or great. i just found the first one that had two people that didn't really like trump, but maybe tried to lay out a case for him


see what they talk about


please don't link one with that go-to phrase...though i kinda like seeing it around here for good reason.


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Apr 3 2023 06:40AM     link to this

Party of deadbeats = democrats

Party overwriting biology = democrats
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Apr 3 2023 07:36AM     link to this

Trump is fucked.

He doesn’t have Bill Barr killing the Mueller investigation.

He doesn’t have Mitch McConnell and Senate Republicans blocking his impeachment.

Trump will actually face Justice now.


Sure, Republicans rally around him now, but what happens after he gets indicted two or three more times on much stronger cases?


And it may seem that it took a long time to bring these cases against Trump, but when you’re bringing them against a former President, you need to have air tight, slam dunk cases. I expect to see a mountain of damning evidence against him.

There is almost no chance that Trump won’t be convicted.


And then the idiots will say all of this is political. If any of you committed a tenth of the crimes he committed, you’d be in prison for decades, if not executed for treason. If Trump were given a pass,that would be politically motivated.

He, like every other citizen, needs to pay for his crimes.



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Apr 3 2023 08:31AM     link to this

He still has Lindsey Graham his fluffer.
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Apr 3 2023 08:31AM     link to this

@ InsearchofStarfish

Interesting clip. I have always liked Megyn Kelly (MK), and Alan Dershowitz (AD) is an icon in his field. In this clip they both were very careful to distinguish the difference between the law and personal opinions. I think that this clip is fair and good reporting.

Words mean a lot. MK was very careful to use the word "allegedly" instead of saying "Trump did that..." That makes her statements absolutely truthful in my view. Her questions appeared to be very focused and non-leading. What really impresses me about MK is her ability to say, "I'm over it!" when referring to her previous run-ins with DJT. In this clip, she showed absolutely no animosity towards DJT despite the terrible things he said about her on a national stage. That is the mark of true maturity. She doesn't have to like DJT, or Biden, to do a fair job in reporting. Kudos to MK!

If the DJT team has any smarts at all, they should be trying to recruit AD for their defense team. Talk about maturity and a true professional - he openly says he is not a DJT political supporter but is quick to come to DJT's defense of his constitutional rights. This is the kind of person that, in a perfect world, would be a great anchor on a major network news broadcast.

Question: does anyone think that this clip clearly showed a bias by either MK or AD?

"Fair Play" in blogging is difficult to achieve. Making fair statements seems to be a lost art. Here is what I think the rules on blogging should be:

1) Clearly differentiate between a fact vs. a personal opinion. No one has the right to degrade you because of your personal opinions, but they have an absolute right to challenge your statement of facts.

2) If you make a statement of fact, it is best to cite a source for it, but at least be prepared to supply the source if challenged on it. In other words, do your homework and be prepared to defend your position.

3) Try to remain civil in the discourse. As soon as a discussion resorts to name calling, nothing intelligent will be said from that point on. It is no longer a debate, it is a shit-slinging show.

Just following these 3 rules would make a world of difference in these blogs. Currently, I find about 90% of the content to be shit-slinging, and about 10% worthy of my attention. But as I said in the previous blog, I have to sort through the garbage to find that 10% that is worthy enough to occupy space in my brain. And that 10% is not just things that I agree with, it is everything that is well researched and just makes sense based on the fair reporting of the subject. In that 10%, I sometimes find something that will change my mind about a subject or at least make me think very hard about my position on it. That is my search for truth! I actually like having my positions challenged and occasionally finding something that will change my mind - it is a good feeling to know that my brain still has some elasticity left.
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Apr 3 2023 08:35AM     link to this

He may not leave the jail house tomorrow.

Inside word is they are planning on keeping him overnight and releasing him in the wee hours.

The courthouse has ordered extra supplies and resources for staff for the evening.

They want to keep the circus outside down to controllable levels.

As for the “no handcuffs”, it’s all bullshit from his lawyer.
This is the same group that praised the grand jury 24 hours before his indictment.
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Apr 3 2023 08:46AM     link to this

And to those who "Can't wait to see the mugshot!"

It doesn't matter if you are a Democrat or a Republican, left leaning or right leaning, truly independent, or just don't give a shit. It doesn't even matter if you believe he is innocent or guilty. It doesn't even matter if he is, in fact, innocent or guilty - publishing his mugshot will be one of the saddest days in American history. If you don't see that then you have lost sight of the big picture.
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Apr 3 2023 08:51AM     link to this

It was a sad day when a known conman, business failure and criminal was elected President.

He has burned through all of his protection and favors, and the bill is due.
It is the time of accountability.
This is just the start of the reckoning.

No one is above the law.

10 years from now, 20 years from now, 100 years from now everyone will think the same thing.
Stupid mother fuckers elected this Orange Shitgibbon idiot and put blinders on.
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Apr 3 2023 09:04AM     link to this

The usa has only 2 true Classes: Owning class and Working class. Upper class is a term that provokes the Middle & Lower to argue while also distracts. In the usa, there is no Red or Blue: you either Own or you Work, that’s it.

When grown ups learn to identify then avoid the snake oil, that’s the 1st step in realizing their place in the Food Chain. Arguing about immigration, abortion, defense spending, Trump, Biden, blah blah blah - changes nothing. Americans were once smart; now we’re angry imbeciles looking at our phones while stepping in front of a bus.
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Apr 3 2023 09:06AM     link to this

Let me reiterate your statement without the acerbic tone!

Electing DJT to be president by a majority of American citizens was a referendum on the sad state of affairs that politics in America had become. They weren't electing him for his knowledge, leadership, or experience; they elected him because he was "different." He was not a professional politician. Americans were, and still are in my view, fed up with politics as usual.

Unfortunately, we are not real quick to admit that we might have been wrong, hence the ardent support for DJT even in light of his current situation. We just can't come to the point of saying, "I was wrong!" Personal hubris has overcome logic and reason.

I have a dream: DJT gets convicted for any crimes he may have committed. This sends a clear message to everyone in the world that in America, no one is above the law. DJT spends one day in jail and is then transferred to prison. He spends one day in prison then Biden pardons him saying, "OK, drama over, let's get back to business!"

I know, it's just a dream
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Apr 3 2023 09:07AM     link to this

^ meant for Sherkhan. I need to get better at this.
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Apr 3 2023 09:28AM     link to this

I’m no fan of Trump and I think any reasonable person would acknowledge that it is more likely than not that Trump banged Stormy Daniels. That said, I really wish the prosecutorial action on this never happened. Of all the shitty, immoral, illegal stuff Trump has done, this case as to be close to the bottom of the list in terms of importance and impact. This case will likely turn out to be an embarrassment not for Trump, but for the Dems.

Trump has the mentality of a mob boss and has conducted himself as such long before he got into politics. His recent social media posts warning of “death and destruction” if he is found guilty are no different than the mob boss telling a merchant that he would hate to see him or his family have a terrible accident if they fail to pay protection money. We know exactly the message he is sending, and the manner in which he sends it allows him to say “I never threatened anyone.”

There are likely more indictments ahead for Trump. Not because he is the subject of a witch hunt, but because he did so many questionable (and probably illegal) things, ranging from his attempts to get the AG of Georgia to “find” votes for him to his refusal to return classified documents he took and stored at Mar-a-Lago.
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Apr 3 2023 09:49AM     link to this

No, we got a blowhard Mussolini type that preyed on and triggered American insecurities, and as much as he disgusted the GOP leaders of the time they could not deny the results his taking down of civil protocols had caused.

More inmates began to rally around him, to take over the asylum. And then from there it was ride or die with him at the wheel, even when he turned on his own allies when things did not go his way.
And all the money grabbing and cover ups since then have no been brought to light, and the reckoning has begun.
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Apr 3 2023 10:07AM     link to this

Flimsy charges about a pornstar incident that happened about 7 years ago. Even the DOJ refused to charge him. How does this pornstar fiasco really threaten the Republic. ? So we have a liberal Democratic DA who often refuses to charge violent crimes get off on such nonsense in this case. ? It is surely a political prosecution and nothing more. How much more obvious can it be. If Trump is to go down let it be at the polls. No Trump fan here by an means but do not want courts to be involved in purely political prosecutions. I saw this kinda thing in the 60s.
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Apr 3 2023 10:19AM     link to this

@thedon60

I agree. Under normal circumstances I would say if DJT is going to be rejected or repudiated by the American people, let it be at the polls, not by a jury of just 12 people. The only problem is, even if DJT lost big in 2024 the shit-storm about rigged and stolen elections would just start all over again. I don't think this country can stand round 2 of that! He just needs to silently go away. His brand of leadership is not helpful for this country. He can be a power player in the Republican Party, he just shouldn't be the face of it.
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Apr 3 2023 10:37AM     link to this

@Marissa_G, you have a new fan!!!!!!
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Apr 3 2023 10:39AM     link to this

Marrisa - unfortunately, Trump’s election denying strategy has caught on in Republican politics and has been widely adopted. Even if Trump goes away, years of claims about rigged elections, fake news bullshit, and “alternative facts” have altered the political landscape and will plague our nation for years. This is DJT’s unfortunate legacy.
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Apr 3 2023 10:42AM     link to this

Its day 803 of Build Back Better.

Nothing is built up. Only further broken dow.

Nothing is back... only degraded.

Without a doubt nothing is better.


You have this country falling to peices under Biiden on numerous fronts and yet we are to focus on a flimsy Trump indictment.

The media and the Dems are so desperate beyond belief.


This is how Rome fell.

Autocrats in charge who insist on their own will over the people while driving the country into the ground with corrupt financial schemes.
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Apr 3 2023 10:44AM     link to this

A massive improvement to elections would be to get rid of mass mailin ballot acceptance.

Even Obama admitted large Scale mailin balloting is ripe for fraud.
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Apr 3 2023 10:50AM     link to this

Good points Marissa. But let the American people decide. The 2020 election was extremely close so it was easy for him to say it was stolen (plus some degree of election fraud is present in many if not most elections) If the American electorate want him out let it be by a healthy margin. Trump remember was the only anti establishment candidate in last two elections and if Biden runs again let the battle lines be drawn once again. Of course many Republicans want DeSantis so
let Trump go head to head with him. Hopefully we have learned something from 2020 as well
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Apr 3 2023 11:00AM     link to this

"NO FUCKING DEFLECTION SHIT ASSHOLES it's not needed"--InSearchOfHisOwnSpine

Who do you think you're fooling? YOU are going to keep an open mind and consider both sides if we post a link to an article? You who always defends Trump & Fox News??!!

I was talking about Fox News hosts and executives admitting in texts that they knew Trumps claim of election fraud were bullshit yet they kept saying he was right because they realized their viewers weren't watching them anymore because they didn't want to face the truth.

You keep up on all things Trump. You know about this. I don't need to supply no stinking link because you're just going to deny the facts & deflect like you just did above.

Thanks for reviving my blog, though. You must be a masochist because you're only prolonging the pain about your Fuhrer and the network that keeps manufacturing propaganda to support him.
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Apr 3 2023 11:05AM     link to this

you got another fan Marissa.
and i am so happy you are able to pinpoint the reason DJT was elected - it was a wake up call to politicians, or at least it should have been.


i believe this particular indictment is damaging to us as a nation.
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Apr 3 2023 11:16AM     link to this

BREAKING NEWS:
Trump sighted flying off to jail. On the newly refurbished 737 thanks to Hillbilly Nation donations..
On board was a Chinese lady waving an American flag cussing at people and one WOP mafia greaseball lawyer who's can put a hit on Don when he decides to not pay.
I love Trump, and I approve of his methods.
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Apr 3 2023 11:29AM     link to this

You are seriously delusional, rabbit.

We all know you are in denial because your leader is in deep shit and you are having a crisis of faith. the abyss that swallows up Trump for his self-made gets deeper.and deeper, and this time he will take many down with him, and you know it.
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Apr 3 2023 11:30AM     link to this

"Electing DJT to be president by a majority of American citizens was a referendum on the sad state of affairs that politics in America had become."

in the 2016 election. Trump won the electoral college. Killary got 2.9 million more popular votes than Trump.

The grand jury indictment was the first time Trump got more votes.
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Apr 3 2023 11:41AM     link to this

This just in... Trump has added a new lawyer to head up his NY defense.

Todd Blanche.

That means he know’s he is in trouble and all previous plans are out the window, as he did the math and knew he would lose.
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Apr 3 2023 11:44AM     link to this

And Starfish, ask Allen Weisselberg if Trump investigations found anything or not.
Go ahead.

I’ll wait.
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Apr 3 2023 12:00PM     link to this

Yes, Nero is fiddling while Rome is burning.....
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Apr 3 2023 12:02PM     link to this

To put this in today's terms...

Joe is eating ice cream while the United States is crumbling.....
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Apr 3 2023 12:05PM     link to this

Daniel Goldman, one of Trump’s impeachment lawyers, has basically told Trump to “shut the fuck up” and behave himself. Or things will get worse and his case will suffer.
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Apr 3 2023 12:12PM     link to this

Hi Jazz, focus on topic.

And bite that pillow while you are at it, too. Maybe see a dentist after for biting so hard.
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Apr 3 2023 12:22PM     link to this

but yet you guys on the libby left have not produced anything...post a similar type clip where they talk about the law on this, fuck, i found that clip in 2 seconds. surely you can post something similar.

you hear misdemeanor? statute of limitations? another state of mind angle we have seen before?




all i see in the 30 seconds is he's going to surly go down?




AD was on his defense team once...said it killed his personal/professional friendships...even though he keeps voting for the dems.




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Apr 3 2023 12:22PM     link to this

After watching the Megan Kelly and Alan Dershowitz clip it offered up a segment on MSNBC by Lawrence O'Donnell. He started out by name calling which is clearly an attempt at spreading his bias which made me want to click him off immediately. But I painfully watched it all. Although he did make some factual points, his delivery and tone overshadowed the importance of them. When you don't want to really hear another word from this idiot, it is difficult to accept anything he says, even if factual. That segment was followed by an offer to watch an interview of Bob Woodward about his tapes on his interviews with DJT (link attached). I really like this one. It is long, but worthy of watching if you want to try to understand why DJT says and does the things he does. Woodward had unprecedented access to DJT, even in the White House. You may not like the end results of some of Woodward's article and books, but I recognize his professional journalistic efforts. He is a true professional.
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Apr 3 2023 12:22PM     link to this

I am focused on topic. We are spending countless hours over a bullshit indictment and this country is fucking itself up every day.

The Saudis and Russia will now cut oil production to drive up the price of crude and Joey eats ice cream after shutting down lots of our own oil production.

That little piece of information was overshadowed because every news agency is jizzing on itself to cover Trump....

I guess I care more about what happens to this country than a political witch hunt.
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Apr 3 2023 12:30PM     link to this

Marissa, the only time djt won a majority of voters was when the 23 grand jurors voted to indict.
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Apr 3 2023 12:34PM     link to this

shitcan....everyone on the right has told trump he needs to shut the fuck up on this...they been saying it for years


so what are you bringing to the table on this thread now?


post a good analysis of why he will go down in NY?


don't bring up all the other crimes elsewhere...those get their own thread and trying to talk about all the shit he's done wrong IS a deflection on the thread here

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Apr 3 2023 12:34PM     link to this

"I guess I care more about what happens to this country than a political witch hunt"

Naww, you're too stupid to know when the country's headed in the right (corrective) direction when a Democrat's back in power but has to spend years making up for the blunders of the past Repuglican [sic] in the White House.

I bet you were upset when the Repugs tried to impeach Clinton over oral sex & called that a witch hunt too?... Even when 3 consecutive Republican house leaders had to resign because they too had committed adultery? Yeah, sure.
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