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I think this is much more a legal/enforcement issue than a political issue. Clearly, ORC is on the rise and is becoming a significant problem. The billions of stolen goods are not being consumed by the ORC gangs but are being resold on-line and in small stores. What we need to do is clamp down on on-line sales of stolen goods and sales of such goods at small stores. Much easier said than done since consumers are very price conscious.
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We don't arrest many people. We charge even fewer. We convict even less. And sentences are a total joke.
If you just do a risk assessment, the average criminal fully believes they will never do any serious time or pay any significant fines. They probably won't get caught. They certainly will pay NO bail even if arrested. And probably won't even face trial.
Maybe we don't have room in our prisons...but how about hundreds of hours on work crews for shoplifters and retail thieves. We have lots of road clean up, graffiti removal, beach clean up, etc. needed. They have to spend every weekend working on a labor crew until their 'sentence' is complete. If they try to skip out or do not show up, bench warrant goes out and they spend time in jail.
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Meanwhile in other news, stores keep adding self check out lanes.
I'm sure there is no connection.
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They are cutting costs. They have one person monitoring 4, 6 or 8 automatic check out stations.
Still can watch if someone might try to steal something, but they save thousands on wages and benefits.
Ultimately, the stores will want all transactions to be on line, so charge the card and no one enters the store to steal.
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Dems keep successfully selling that California will turn into Antebellum South if you vote for a single Republican. Completely tribal voting patterns. Selling fear works for all politicians, but today's Dems are a master at the craft.
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And in the time it took to read this blog, 10,000 more illegal aliens forced their way into our country with Joe Biden's blessing. And many of them have no more than a second grade education, and will earn their living through crime...
America...What A County!
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if they ain't going to arrest or prosecute anyone on the theft side of things...where the DANGER lies...they will be hard pressed to do crack down on the back end
kinda like the china shit coming thru MEX.
it's fucking scary out there with little ones.
over last year or so...i'm for them moving forever out of the country...hopefully they will take the opportunity to study a year abroad. not that other countries aren't going thru shit btw
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It would be so much more respectable if you rednecks wore white hoods and burned crosses than hid behind a tragic misinterpretation of Edmund Burkes noble theory of conservatism.
The US is the undisputed leader in mass incarceration. We are not arresting too few people. We are arresting too many people of color for frivolous crimes. America is a carceral state from the perspective of non male, non white citizens.
But here is the spoiler. You people are on your way out. And you know it. And that is why you are so transparently afraid. Women make up 56% of law students in ABA approved law schools. Non Cuban Hispanics who lean left are the most upwardly mobile demographic in America.
As evidenced in these blogs white men in America are uneducated, unenlightened, and afraid. You should be.
And do not let the door hit your ass on the way out.
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@Hey1, you seem to be saying that it's the Whites that are the problem, but even when
they become the minority in the U.S. I rather doubt that the Blacks and the Latinos
will do a better job. Many of the major cities are run by Democratic Blacks and
their crime rates are increasing.
And what are they going to do with the illegals that are pouring into this country?
Whites are already the minority in the world. I believe Asians are the majority
in the world, lead by the Chinese.
As I recall most of the crimes by Blacks are perpetrated against other Blacks.
We now have the rise of an elite group of wealthy people who appear to be mostly White
backed by the Democratic party that want to control the citizenry by prosecuting anyone who who opposes them.
There is an attempt to turn the U.S. into a facist police state run by elitists and supported
by the leftist Dems. They could careless about the welfare of the people.
It may work in the short run but not in the long run.
These people think they are gods and can control the universe.
They cannot, because humans are have God within themselves.
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Target is losing 100's of millions because nobody is buying the Woke bullshit in the š šPRIDE SECTIONšš
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I don't see how this is a BLM issue. Maybe if they ask that you don't shoot a black person for stealing a carton of eggs.
Maybe we should think about the root cause of the increase in theft in this country. Wages for the low and middle classes have been largely stagnant for decades, while rising inflation makes it increasingly more difficult to afford to put food on the table and pay rent.
How about fighting crime by increasing funding to social programs that allow people who can't afford basic goods survive, turning them away from crime by stemming their desperation? And as @Hey1 pointed out, incarcerating more people simply feeds the problem, forcing the disadvantaged down, which is a conservative tactic to remain in control.
Relatedly, Trump's tax cuts of the wealthy have have contributed 25% to the national debt and extending it is estimated to add an additional $3.5 trillion to the nation's deficit. Yet the Republicans are holding the debt limit hostage?
How about force the wealthy to contribute the to the economy fairly (through higher taxes) and to raise the minimum wage to a degree that it is actually becomes a living wage. That's how you fight crime.
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We have more crime because we have no deterrent in place to slow it or even stop it.
Don't rob someone at gunpoint in China, since you will probably get the death penalty.
We actually are telling thieves, go ahead and steal, we won't even chase you.
If you were told a speeding ticket will now cost you $10,000, I bet all of your fuckers would slow down.
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The deterrent is important, too. I agree.
But again, it doesn't address the root cause of the problem. If you can't afford to feed your family, you'll risk everything to provide for them.
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Why do we have a big spike in crime?
Because the Billionare Pimp Daddy for the Democrats keeps funding election campaigns for radical left Woke DA's and Prosecutors.
The track record of these assholes is to not prosecute criminals and spend more time demonizing cops.
Then they also have Woke State legislatures passing law that effectively legalize crime. Like you cant get busted if you take less than $900 of stuff.
Then I've seen video of BLM members telling groups of "followers" that they can steal shit and these tolen assets "are their reparations".
Soros is a treasonous bastard.
He is identified as a criminal in 7 European nations but our Democrat party is in love with this guy.
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Why are you worried about BLM they can't do anything. What you should be worried about is all these illegal immigrants coming across the border.
That's your new poor working class coming in to replace you.
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mildlyamusing....come on man! You can't really believe this.
"If you can't afford to feed your family, you'll risk everything to provide for them."
Do you really think all of the people who are shoplifting, doing home invasions, robbing liquor stores at gunpoint are starving families? I have some beach front property in Iowa I would like to sell you.
They are either too lazy to work for a living or know that crime can pay them far more than a 'real job'. Much is done to feed an 'addiction' habit. And some do it just because they can, knowing that there is no downside and lots of upside.
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Jazz
I hope you don't have to worry about where you're going to come up with the money for your necessities. But imagine if you needed to. Or if you had a couple of kids and you didn't know how to were going to be able to feed them. That changes everything.
Sure, some of the theft is not for necessities, but we should make a distinction between those who steal because they have no choice to and those who do it for greed or other reasons.
Winona Ryder was a famous kleptomaniac. She stole because she got off on stealing things. That should be punished severely, right? But that's clearly not a BLM issue.
So maybe this blog should not have included the BLM movement, which simply asks that the police to value black lives as much as those of other colors. Black people who steal, who make traffic infractions, or who are simply walking on then street and look "suspicious", etc., should not be harassed, shot and killed by the police. That is the BLM movement.
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BLM was a scam...most likely NONE of the millions raised went to help any of the victims and communities
i guess we can check the tax filings though to be sure
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the theft is on a whole different level than what you keep trying to portray here btw
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which doesn't matter anymore for some of these places...they are pulling up shop and leaving the those communities that don't protect their existence
the way it should be...stores and restaurants close when they are not supported sufficiently...in all regards
loved seeing all the comments on various articles that it was no big deal, they had insurance covering the losses
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I believe you meant that the organizers stole from the fundraising through the BLM movement. Those people should be prosecuted and punished severely. They fucked over their own people.
What the BLM movement stood for was valid.
I know a guy who looks black (but isn't) who was harassed by the police when he was a teenager in Hollywood. He eventually became an orthopedic surgeon partially because of what the police did to him. My roommate's (in undergrad) father is black (and happened to be a doctor) and he was harassed driving his Rolls Royce in Beverly Hills. He was stopped by the police simply because he was black and accused him of stealing his own car.
The police are automatically suspicious of black people and they are targeted because of the color of their skin.
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police are fucking suspicious of everyone they stop at this point...they might feel a bit less if they are non black
i wouldn't want any of my friends or family going into LE
we all have the stories btw...again there are bad people out there.
maybe sit back a bit off your perch...think about what you just said about BLM and apply it to LE
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maybe the MOVEMENT had a good start from it's founders? their backgrounds were pretty shady at best
but maybe their was a kernel of good? that's kinda needed to blow up big like they did.
so maybe we can SEE where all that money went
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"maybe sit back a bit off your perch...think about what you just said about BLM and apply it to LE"
I think you meant "our" perch.
I understand that it is difficult to be LE. But maybe we should recognize that it is difficult to be black in this country as well. Tossing around BLM as if it is a meaningly movement is a mistake.
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maybe the MOVEMENT had a good start from it's founders? their backgrounds were pretty shady at best
but maybe their was a kernel of good? that's kinda needed to blow up big like they did.
so maybe we can SEE where all that money went
I agree with you completely.
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they ruined it....pick another one that is less political and dividing
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mildlyamusing
First watch out for TOS. You have been around long enough to know what you can't talk about.
"I hope you don't have to worry about where you're going to come up with the money for your necessities. But imagine if you needed to. Or if you had a couple of XXXXX and you didn't know how to were going to be able to feed them. That changes everything."
There are so many government programs out there. EBT, food banks, nearly every church, and the list goes on. Maybe if we didn't have a dumb shit president who drove inflation to levels not seen in decades, including price of gas, food, etc. people might not be in the economic condition they find themselves.
Get a job. We have jobs unfilled in this country.
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gotta imagine life is hard...it's hard for lots of people
but the STATS? 50 percent of the murders are from less that 13percent of population...factor out the women and it might be half that
so LE might be a little twitchy in those areas...cops are getting killed daily...just gotta put yourself in their shoes a bit.
good cops and bad cops....we did about 5 threads a few years ago breaking down 2019 and the unarmed blacks being killed...how many was it again? and of those...how many were deemed to be lawful
our perch is fine btw 
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Itās insane how MA1 cucks for the party of deadbeats.
MA1 is the type of guy that will bend down and get pegged willingly by the IRS.
MA1 what do you have to say to Gavin Newsoms soft shoplifting propositions?
Itās fucking insane how you side with weak on crime soft ass libtards, wake up CLOWN!
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bunch of restaurants were robbed last week in the valley.
said on news LE would probably not spend time trying to find the perps.
said because the little money in the register that even if caught it was only a misdemeanor, maybe a fine, def no jail time.
we legalized weed to decriminalize the drug and keep those who use from overcrowding the prisons, did it work?
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@Ego
We all know that you enjoy to troll Dems. I donāt think we should be soft on shoplifting and theft, but a solution is not to incarcerate more over finding solutions to the problem that cause the crime in the first place. Think on a deeper level.
@lapierre
Do you seriously think itās weed that these people are taking? Weed is cheap and is essentially harmless. And I found this in a quick Google search:
"a federally funded study found that legalizing marijuana has little to no impact on rates of violent or property crime. The policy change did seem connected to a long-term decline in burglaries in one state, however.ā
The harder drugs that are more expensive cause higher crime rates. By the way, the best sex I have is after having a little weed. Increases stimulation, relaxation, and enjoyment significantly.
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there was mention of over crowded prisons (from MA)
we did legalize the weed industry.
one reason to do so was to decriminalize the drug/users as those dealers and users were overcrowding prisons.
it was even said to be targeting blacks (i guess the inclination was that blacks smoke/deal weed generally?)
so my question is: did we succeed? are those weed criminals no longer overcrowding prisons?
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Based on the snippet that I just sent to you, it doesn't appear that legalization of weed is correlated to current crime rates, but there are other factors that affect crime.
For example, Covid lockdowns (and the resulting inflation) caused significant hardship to low and middle classes that caused crime to rise. Although I feel the BLM movement was valid, it also coincided with Covid lockdowns and it was like throwing a match onto a pile of dynamite. Legitimate demonstrations turned into looting, which was unfortunate since it destroyed the original message sought to be transmitted.
I do believe that blacks are often stopped by police more than other races, and blacks are often disproportionally punished for possession of weed. So legalization of weed did help to that end. Beyond OJ, I don't think most blacks have fair outcomes in our legal system. OJ got off when he shouldn't have, of course, but that's more due to his fame than anything else.
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dude
prison is literally legalized racketeering
pay pay pay
if you cant you are screwed.
but if you dont want to go to prison, dont break the law.
yes blacks are getting shafted more often that others and it is unfortunate but look at the ones committing the crimes - are they colored?
its not fair to generalize in this way, skin color has nothing to do with committing crimes i get it, however personality, upbringing, culture has everything to do with it.
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@MA1, the root causes lie with our government. We now have wealthy elitists who
believe controlling the masses is the solution, which means they could care less about
the individual. So it will get worse for Blacks in this country. They are already
complaining about the illegals that are coming into their communities.
Expect more crime in the future.
Basically, you talk a lot of liberal nonsense.
You justify criminal behavior, just because LE is not perfect.
We've come a long way since they 50's when discrimination was worse.
It will be back to law and order if you expect a civilized society..
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Nice try, Dr.B.
Illegal immigrants have 43% lower crime rates than native-born Americans in Texas, the only state that tracks the information. Why do you think that is? They want to stay in this country, so the last thing they are going to do is risk being deported by committing crimes.
Conservatives are fed a steady stream of bullshit when it comes to immigrants. How else will you accept cutting taxes on rich (to your detriment) if they arenāt making you shit your pants because the ālibsā are too compassionate.
From the linked article:
The results are similar to our other work on illegal immigration and crime in Texas. In 2018, the illegal immigrant criminal conviction rate was 782 per 100,000 illegal immigrants, 535 per 100,000 legal immigrants, and 1,422 per 100,000 nativeāāborn Americans. The illegal immigrant criminal conviction rate was 45 percent below that of nativeāāborn Americans in Texas. The general pattern of nativeāāborn Americans having the highest criminal conviction rates followed by illegal immigrants and then with legal immigrants having the lowest holds for all of other specific types of crimes such as violent crimes, property crimes, homicide, and sex crimes.
Since Texas is the only state that records and keeps the immigration statuses of those arrested, we canāt make a direct applesāātoāāapples comparison between Texas and other states (every state should record and keep this information so we can answer this important question).
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If you think it's tough being black in this country, trying being black in Africa.
Here's a few questions to ask yourself, don't cheat by looking at the answers below.
Write down your answer, then look:
#1. What percentage of workers in the US work at the minimum wage?
#2. If you have a job in the US, at the minimum wage, where does that put you in the world income distribution?
Here's your answers:
#1. Less than 2%
#2. Above 85%
All through high school kids have earnestly been told that poverty should be defined in relative terms, and that the US system is cruel to the poor. The fact that a minimum wage job puts you in the top fifth of the world income distribution .Ā .Ā . and that 98 percent of Americans make more than the minimum wage, creates enormous cognitive dissonance for a lot of you.
The reality is that, if you're the modern offspring of a slave 150 years ago in America, your life is FAR better than if your progenitors were left behind in Africa. I'm in NO way condoning slavery, it's a vile ONGOING activity today. But, unlike many in Africa today, you have a chance and a choice in America to NOT live in abject soul crushing poverty, hungry and dying young from some disease......in a way even the poorest in America will never know.
And, that is unfortunately........the truth of it.
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Weirdly enough, I'm in agreement with MA1 on immigrants.
They may be poor, but the vast majority are NOT criminals and the stats bear this out.
It's clear what we need is far HIGHER legal immigration and far LOWER illegal immigration.
So, we can let in the good and keep out the few bad.
If we don't, we'll end up like Japan, Italy, China, etc
Huge population drops leading to even bigger problems.
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i have definitely been thinking that for last FEW race baited years
maybe some of the slavery descendants can answer honestly
would they RATHER the slavery in america didn't happen and they are still in africa?
the price being paid to get here is still pretty big...just look at what happens coming across the border...the rapes and abuse at yng ages...they all get tested when they get here.
he killings and sex slavery
i don't think they will ask for reparations...they seem a little smarter
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@GBD
1. Statistics like that are intentionally deceptive. Minimum wage means you canāt go any lower, but 1/3 of all wages earned are less than $15.
āThe fact is that over a third of the total workforce (52 million Americans) makes less than $15 per hour. 247,000 U.S. workers earn exactly the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. While that is only 0.15% of the working population, it still represents thousands of families across the U.S.ā
2. The world income distribution is irrelevant. What matters is the cost of living where you work and live. I donāt remember which country it was, but I was told last week that the average monthly wage was around $20, yet people could still afford to live on that because living expenses was so cheap in that country.
If youāre living in Louisiana, Mississippi, or Alabama, you can easily survive on $25k to $30k a year. In NYC, SF, and LA, youād struggle having 5 or 6 roommates in a 2 bedroom apartment. Owning a house would be out of the question.
Fifty years ago, it was easy to make enough to own a home. That is no longer the case.
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wage shit is not a simple thing like raise it up
not a fan of paying fast food type jobs or first job people that much money
in my bus....the wages went up three to four fold...for shit a monkey could do...maybe a very smart one
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i think living with multiple people is fine...some did it in college where we rented 5-6bedroom homes and each had a room.
that's when you work and try and improve your skills/education
if you don't...just keep doing what you're doing.
a lot of these type of jobs are not meant to be career/permanent things anyway. if an employer sees a FEW employees that are valuable, making his/her life easier....he will compensate em properly to keep em...if not? they can move on and enhance someone else's life and get compensated appropriately
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"Statistics like that are intentionally deceptive. Minimum wage means you canāt go any lower, but 1/3 of all wages earned are less than $15."
Your source, Oxfam America, is an advocacy agency for higher minimum wages. The quoted source may be Zippia. Yet Zippia also states clearly that there 1.1 million Americans earning less than the Federal minimum wage in 2021.
Which is it? 52 million from Oxfam or 1.1 million from Zippia? Btw 1.1m is about 1.4% of the population.....I suspect your advocacy group is playing fast and loose with the stats. How about we go with the US Bureau of Labor Statistics which, in fact, corroborates the Zippia numbers. Oxfam is playing your ass........intentionally. You should dig deeper before taking your usual political position.
"The percentage of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal minimum wage or less declined from 1.9 percent in 2019 to 1.5 percent in 2020. This remains well below the percentage of 13.4 recorded in 1979, when data were first collected on a regular basis. (See table 10.)"
Answer #1 was correct at less than 2%......not Oxfam's 1/3, total bullshit.
Your second statement is also untrue, world income distribution is EXACTLY the point. Most of you progs are always making fun of the deep south, maybe you'd like Burundi or Somalia better? Just think how far your dollar would go there, lol.
The point is you're lucky as fuck to be born and/or reside in the US as compared to Africa. Regardless which state you live in, your quality of life is incomprehensibly better than almost anywhere in Africa .......no matter what you earn here. If you don't believe it, the Federal government keeps stats on that too......it's crazy what our taxes pay for so PhD statisticians can have government jobs.
PS. Note the 13.4% in 1979, in case you're about to tell me that things are getting worse. What IS getting worse is politicians like Joe Biden destroying the low-wage earners buying power thru high and persistent inflation. The continued regulatory regime demanding more stringent climate goals that increase the cost of utilities, gas, housing, food and literally everything a poor person of any fucking COLOR needs or wants.
Progs have lofty goals, some which I'm marginally OK with......but you are literally killing people in your efforts to save them. Oh, but that's right....I forgot, it's all the Republicans fault. 
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Because I know about this one.......
"Fifty years ago, it was easy to make enough to own a home. That is no longer the case."
Almost 1/3 of the cost to build a home in CA is due to regulations. I'm not saying dump all regulations, but be aware of what you're doing. State of CA added $20,000 to the cost of a home for an immeasurable drop in carbon emissions when they required all new homes be solar.
That's fucking NUTS. Now, they want to get rid of the lowest cost, most efficient natural gas appliances....again for an immeasurable carbon drop. Meanwhile, China adds a new coal fired electrical power plant EVERY WEEK.
Progressives are guilty of inflexible and faulty thinking, that's just a fact.
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Don't even get me started on CA requirements for home building entitlements.
1 home, no problem....a year.
More than 1 home, could be 3 to 5 years just to get the entitlements and permits. Then you get to build the houses. And, probably get fucked when they raise rates 500 basis points.
In TX, it's 6 months.......for the same subdivision.
CA is just plain stupid.
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The average per capita disposable income in the 1960s is equivalent to $130K in today's dollars.
Today's average per capita disposable income is $46K.
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@MA1, you're still talking a lot of liberal nonsense.
You didn't address whether illegal immigration will affect Blacks.
Also if the illegals were not here, then someone else would
have committed the crime in their place?
I don't care about the percentages of crime.
Many years ago I was associated many young illegals.
Many of them stole. I don't blame them. They had very little
and there is plenty to steal everywhere.
Again, you talk a lot of liberal nonsense.
And these liberal policies are making life miserable for many.
Things will get a lot worse before they get better.
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"Illegal immigrants have 43% lower crime rates than native-born Americans in Texas"
Do you see how dumb you sound?
That doesn't matter illegal immigrants are all criminals they committed a crime entering the country.
The problem is that moron Joe Biden is not enforcing the Law. Every state needs to be passing laws like Ron DeSantes just did.
DeSantes understands it's the greedy Corporations that are hiring these illegals exploiting and eventually ushering a new working class to replace American citizens. (Cheap Labor)
You notice when they send those illegals to rural communities the white people complain they don't want them illegals living in their communities either.
This is why either Trump or DeSantes will be elected this time around.
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The attached chart shows the minimum wage and its inflation adjusted value up to 2016. From the mid-60's, it should have continued to rise along the same trajectory, which I think would be at $21 or $22 per hour now.
U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics: What caused inflation to spike after 2020?
As the labor market tightened during 2021 and 2022, core inflation rose as the ratio of job vacancies to unemployment increased. This ratio is used to measure wage pressures that then pass through to the prices for goods and services. As workers bargain for better pay, firms begin to increase prices. So, from this research, the authors find that three main components explain the rise in inflation since 2020: volatility of energy prices, backlogs of work orders for goods and service caused by supply chain issues due to COVID-19, and price changes in the auto-related industries.
Sure, you can blame Biden for some of it if you believe he caused oil prices to rise, however oil company greed and Covid-19 are the main culprits.
@TheMatrixx
Trump and DeSantis have almost no chance of winning in 2024.
Democrats and Independents outnumber Republicans. Republicans ignore the will of the people who are fed up with a blatantly corrupt conservative SCOTUS, loss of abortion rights, complete inaction on reasonable gun regulations, etc., there is no chance in hell that Republicans will win in 2024.
Just this week a Democrat won the Mayoral race in Jacksonville, Florida in an upset.
DeSantis' and Abbot's attack of hispanics is now resulting in empty shelves. Hispanics are questioning whether they want to even live in FL and TX, so there goes their votes.
The Republican Party is imploding.
| Attached Pictures | | Federal Minimum Wage Chart |  |
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Stumpy just proved my point about high and persistent inflation.
Look, realize that it's in the BEST interests of politicians to drive inflation higher up to the point that the voter finally gets too pissed off and votes for the other guy.
Inflation devalues the money, your purchasing power decreases and nominal government debt becomes easier to pay off in future years..........as long as consumers don't catch on and demand higher yields.
Government constantly and consistently spends more than it takes in taxes, running a deficit. Then the Fed monetizes that debt,eventually causing inflation which then devalues the debt the Congress/President purposely ran up............supposedly to "help" the "people",
This game has been going on since the 1960's, so while the war on poverty spent $13 Trillion and created hundreds of inefficient programs, the working poor having become more and more dependent on these government programs due to inflation and continued government regulations.
This is NOT rocket science and it's being done purposely because politicians of BOTH parties spin the fuck out of the reasons while most voters are completely clueless.
Those are just facts, face up to it and vote accordingly...........or don't
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