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Greenwald: Why the establishment is afraid to debate
Jun 22 2023 02:45PM more by Atticus_Finch
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Interesting take by Glenn Greenwald on why Hotez is refusing Joe Rogan's debate challenge.

Personally, I think hotez is a coward and not only knows he'll get spanked but also knows that it'll show he's been lying for years.

But even worse it'll show that the whole system that's supposed to protect the people is completely corrupt.





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Jun 22 2023 03:45PM     link to this

This seems to be the latest strategy of Democrats who know they cant stand up and defend Leftist policies and more importantly said results.

Look no further than the AZ midterms where the Secretary of State Katie Hobbs runs for Governor, doesn't recuse herself from election oversight, and refused to debate her opponent. Even CNN called bullshit on the strategy as "non-Democratic".

Massive election law violations and AZ ends up with an completely illegitimate Governor who has vetoed over 80 bills put forth by the GOP led Senate.


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Jun 22 2023 08:05PM     link to this

I'm not sure how much a "debate" would actually have done to change anyone's mind. To me, it would have been more like a wrestling match, where you cheer on your hero & boo your villain.
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Jun 22 2023 08:45PM     link to this

^ wears mask
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Jun 22 2023 11:37PM     link to this

^wears womens underwear.
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Jun 23 2023 07:53AM     link to this

I actually think it would be helpful to have a debate on this issue in order to show just how crazy RFK Jr. has become, but having it on Joe Rogan's show is a mistake.

Rogan is obviously biased and can control the discussion, so a more neutral party should have the debate. The rest of the Kennedy family thinks RFK Jr. is a loon.



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Jun 23 2023 08:02AM     link to this

RFK Jr would be better than FJB !

All that I can I think about with Biden is " Weekend at Bernie's " .

And Obama, AOC, Bernie Sanders, Susan Rice and Pocahantis are all carrying Biden around !
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Jun 23 2023 08:08AM     link to this

Biden has always been an easy target because of his speech impediment. He's not nearly as feeble as conservatives paint him as being, but that won't prevent the jokes and disparagement from the Right.

RFK Jr. sides with conservatives more than liberals (which is fine), but he has crazy ideas about a number of issues and has always been an anti-vaxxer.

Like Trump, he's ultimately unelectable. As more people actually hear his positions, the less traction he will have.


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Jun 23 2023 08:14AM     link to this

If Biden is re-elected, WW3 is a given and our being surrounded by oceans will not prevent WW3 being fought on our soil.
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Jun 23 2023 08:20AM     link to this

Wow.


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Jun 23 2023 08:22AM     link to this

@ Edmond

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Jun 23 2023 08:24AM     link to this

"RFK Jr. sides with conservatives more than liberals..."


RFK sides with common sense but you stupidly interpret that as siding with the enemy.

Someone who points out the scams and abuse in the Big Pharma industry are critics, not "anti-vaxxers"


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Jun 23 2023 08:28AM     link to this

If Biden can actually be re-elected this country is toast .

But we can already see how this country is sliding into an authoritarian state and we are on a path towards destruction imposed by globalists.

Joe just signs the legislation to let it happen then goes back to sleep.


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Jun 23 2023 09:09AM     link to this

And what's disturbing is that the Liberals cannot even see it coming !

Covid was biological warfare initiated by the CCP to flex on Trump about import product tariffs.
The CCP wants worldwide control and they are on an express train to obtain their goals.
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Jun 23 2023 09:19AM     link to this

Lets face it, they really don't debate - they come out with the pros and cons of the topic(s) being debated they point fingers at the other side and say look what they did!! If we had an honest debate we would find out that neither side has the person we want in office and we would all likely vote NON OF THE ABOVE.

I would really like to know why in a country that has people smart enough to put people on the moon, put satellites in space, create medicine to cure all types of illnesses we can't fine 2 people to run for office, any office.......
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Jun 23 2023 10:18AM     link to this

LA Times reports today (pg 8) that the Progressive Silicon Valley billionaires are abandoning FJB for Kennedy. Looks like they're following the "Science",

Every time the HX Prog crew trumpets how great CA is, these SV guysare the ones that drive the GDP of the state.....you still in love with them now as they jump into bed with this Kennedy???

FJB's people are freaking out that his poll numbers are being affected by the crazy guy.

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Jun 23 2023 10:30AM     link to this

I bet most of you liberals will tuck your tail and run for the Deserts when the CCP lands on shore.

Perhaps 20% ought to point guns in that direction to , as we don't need anymore bottom feeders that will not stand for what this country was founded upon. Or perhaps put you on the slow boat back to China as they need more human lab rats to experiment on. Oh wait they will take you out to.

The only good thing is, there won't be a homeless problem when the CCP is done but the homeless will be the least of your problems.

Perhaps the Globalists are using CCP as patses to finish the job that the democratic liberals can not finish themselves.
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Jun 23 2023 10:40AM     link to this

Oh and btw. Cancer will NEVER be cured. It's just another tool to depopulate the planet. In fact the Cure is out there. But when there are Billions of $'s at stake and Millions of jobs lost, like in the days of Polio, the Globalist vowed to Never let that happen again. So here we are today. Care to made a donation ?
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Jun 23 2023 12:33PM     link to this

First off, Glenn Greenwald is a fucking clown. They should investigate his husband's early death. He probably poisoned him.

Debate me on that Greenwald!


Joe Rogan and RFK Jr are not serious people. They ignore fact and only gravitate to opinions and faulty research that back their own opinions.

RFK Jr has been a joke for the longest time. Nobody has ever taken this guy seriously because he is a fucking clown. This proposed "debate" will only make him creditable when he never has deserved it.

The guy even said he vaccinated his children at a time when he was willing to bad mouth vaccines any time a microphone was in his face.

A debate wont help anybody cause who ever listens to RFK Jr for medical facts already have their minds made up.
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Jun 23 2023 01:18PM     link to this

"A debate wont help anybody cause who ever listens to RFK Jr for medical facts already have their minds made up."

Yup. I'm pretty sure everyone on this post has their minds made up on this issue, and again, a debate is really more for sport.
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Jun 23 2023 01:20PM     link to this

"Perhaps 20% ought to point guns in that direction to"

Nice. And I thought you were just a clown.
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Jun 23 2023 01:40PM     link to this

A formal debate needs to be made with reasonable , arguable points of logic and sound facts.
RFK has been going off the deep end as of late, and… Joe Rogan???

There are better things to do with the precious moments of life you have left on this planet then be in a debate on Joe Rogan show.

Like take a shit.
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Jun 23 2023 03:15PM     link to this

“Yup. I'm pretty sure everyone on this post has their minds made up on this issue, and again, a debate is really more for sport.”

Perhaps.

It’s simply amazing how we still debating if vaccines are good or not. The evidence is overwhelming yes they are good.

Smallpox killed 300 million people in the 20th century alone. Nobody dies of smallpox in the USA Today cause of vaccines. FFS polio is making a comeback cause of horseshoe leftists and right wingers.
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Jun 23 2023 04:27PM     link to this

If the gopers to not want Biden to be re-elected then find a candidate that can win. Tramp will put Biden back in the WH.
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Jun 23 2023 04:34PM     link to this

RFK Jr. will probably stem off that travesty.
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Jun 23 2023 06:03PM     link to this

Glen Greenwald is perhaps the best journalist anywhere. He
Is the one who broke the Snowden spy revelations and helped publish them. He also founded the Intercept but left that platform when he came to realize that the claims Trump was a Russian agent were nonsense. He was one of the first to expose the Russiagate scam, his writings helped free a Brazilian politician from jail on false charges. That individual is now the President of Brazil. He has written a lot in defense of Julian Assange, he was one of the leading journalists who exposed how big Tech and the Dem establishment were censoring and banning social media free speech. He was one of the first to show that Hunter Bidens laptop was real and not Russian disinformation. The list goes on and on. He is now in the process of exposing Joe Bidens corruption thru IRS whistleblowers reports. He has railed against this countrys endless wars and so much more.
Even if you do not agree with him check out his show System Update Monday thru Friday on Rumble at 4 pm Pt.
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Jun 23 2023 07:49PM     link to this

Greenwald is also a former Constitutional Law Attorney educated at NYU School of Law and George Washington University.

He's no Liberal Media useful idiot hack.

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Jun 23 2023 07:55PM     link to this

'It������¢���¯���¿���½���¯���¿���½s simply amazing how we still debating if vaccines are good or not. The evidence is overwhelming yes they are good.'

That's not all together true - when I was a kid I got 3 - 5 vaccines the major being polio & smallpox. Can't remember what the others were.

I caught measles and got the mumps and am now immune to both of those through natural immunity.

Problem is that today kids are getting more then 60 shots - talk about over medicated!, and it shot up because the vaccine act was passed - which BTW also gave the vaccine industry a pass by making it so they can't be sued for damages and made it mandatory for kids to get them - talk about a captured audience!

Also since the number of vaccines has sky rocketed there HAS been a DRAMATIC rise in kids having various types of allergies, autism has dramatically increased along with other chronic diseases.

The only allergies the kids around me were for pollen - No kid I knew had a peanut, gluten or anything other that kids have now a days.

Is there a correlation between over medicating kids with vaccines and those diseases?
I don't know BUT, the US is the only country whose seen the number of chronic diseases increase so dramatically! That tells me that we SHOULD be investigating it to see if there is a correlation.

Why? Because THAT'S the reason the fda, nih, niaih & cdc were created - to protect the public from the pharmaceutical companies bad drugs.

Instead there's a revolving door at those agencies and the pharmaceutical industries - the new head of the fda came from it with ties to amgen, astrazeneca, eli lilly, J & J, merck sharp & D Sanofi-Aventis and the list goes on!!!

So the people who are supposed to be regulating that industry came from it!
Do you really expect them to watch dog them? especially when they're getting a cut from the drugs that they approve?

If you do then you're EXTREMELY naive.

Atticus Finch
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Jun 23 2023 08:06PM     link to this

Here is a question for those of you who are anti-vaccines and who are over 50: do you plan on getting (or have gotten) the shingles vaccine?






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Jun 23 2023 08:18PM     link to this

Nope, and calling anyone who chooses not to take it anti vax is really DUMB.

I'm not getting it because I'm anti taking drugs I don't need.
Add to that I've never gotten shingles so why get a vax for it?

I also didn't take the pain killers they gave me when I dislocated my shoulder or when I blew out my knee or broke my scap.
Does that make me 'anti pain killer' as well?

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Jun 23 2023 08:18PM     link to this

I'm not anti- vaccines, I've had plenty of them. I'm just a bit cautious when it comes to untested, shake and bake solutions pushed by politicians.

Shingles vaccine, why should I?

Before you even think of answering that, stfu. I'll consult with a doctor, in person, before possibly deciding. You can consult the internet, politicians or whoever you want to before making YOUR decision.
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Jun 23 2023 09:06PM     link to this

Not an anti-vaxer here, grew up on them.
There's no scientific doubt that generally they work but NOT 100% of the time.
In a population of hundreds of millions, even a tiny % of adverse reactions can number in the thousands.

However, most covid vaccines were created by means of a new and mostly untested method. They do not have the long track record of many previous vaccines.

That's a legitimate discussion point.

Although I personally disagree with Kennedy's anti-vax position, I sincerely hope he does enough damage to torpedo FJB's re-election so that the Dems are forced to get younger less demented candidates in the mix.

When FJB is forced to a debate podium next year, instead of slamming the ham in his basement, he will be an embarrassment and disappointment.

Both parties need new candidates, pronto.

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Jun 23 2023 09:21PM     link to this

^ Except Kenndy isn't an anti vaxer - he's anti unsafe vax and all he's asking for is the fda, nih & niaih actually do their job and investigate to see if there's a correlation between the enormous increase in the number of vaccines that children have to take now and the dramatic increase in the number of chronic diseases that are occurring in those same children after getting those vaccines.

To me that doesn't seem like too much to ask.

And the covid 'vaccines' didn't under go the testing that other vaccines under go.

To to call it a 'vaccine' is also a misnomer - it isn't. It's a therapeutic.

It does nothing that a vaccine is supposed to do i.e. keep you from getting the disease.

And there's no evidence that it doesn't cause more harm then good because no one at the fda, nih or niaih will investigate to see if it's actually a safe drug.

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Jun 23 2023 10:41PM     link to this

As I've mentioned before, I know dozens of doctors, most of whom are relatives and childhood friends. One is a neurologist who is an expert in migraines. He suggests taking two 500mg Tylenol, four 200mg Advil, and a cup of coffee (optional) all together and he says that works just as well as the most effective migraine mediation. Knocks out the pain in 30 minutes. It works really well, by the way.

Anyhow, I prefer to avoid taking too much medication, so I asked if could take just two Advil. He said "then why take anything at all if you're not going to solve the problem?"


I don't think anyone would prefer to just pop pills or take vaccines unless they truly work and the benefits far outweigh the risks. In the migraine example, it is perfectly safe to take that much Tylenol and Advil as long as you're not allergic to those medications and that you don't drink (Tylenol affects the liver when you're drinking), so why suffer from the pain unnecessarily?


If you don't know about shingles, it generally occurs in people who are over 50 and it is unbelievably painful. Senator Dianne Feinstein took several months to recover from it, and I remember that David Letterman couldn't work for a while when he was recovering from shingles. It is not something that you want to have. But if you're like Atticus Finch and you can deal with the pain--pain that is generally avoidable from a vaccine that is over 90% effective with minimal side effects--then more power to you. You're not hurting anyone but yourself by not taking it and that is absolutely your choice.


Covid was an entirely different animal. Your failure to take the vaccine could have jeopardized your life and the life of others. Is it safe? Considering the billions of people who have taken it with just a tiny percentage that have serious side effects (a tiny fraction of 1%), then the odds are that you would be fine taking it especially since the alternative is death or lasting side effects from catching Covid.


Medicine isn't perfect. Around 10% of all medical knowledge will eventually be proven wrong. I'm sure that our cancer treatments (chemo therapy) will be looked upon as barbaric torture in the future when science finally finds a cure or a more effective treatment. But it is the best that we have now based on our current knowledge. The Covid pandemic required emergency measures to address it. Without the Covid vaccines, many millions more people would have died. And the reports of millions of people getting sick from the vaccines have been flat out wrong.


The problem with RFK Jr. is that he doesn't know jack shit about medicine. He's the poster boy for those who simply question everything but don't have any answers and don't understand conventional solutions. That's why he's dangerous. However, I think most people are smart enough to look past him. Even his own family thinks he's crazy and you would think that at least they would give him the benefit of the doubt if he even had a shred of evidence of what he is warning everyone about.


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Jun 23 2023 10:54PM     link to this

I was going to let this go because I know Peter from my days doing pro bono for Texas Childrens Hospital and I know he does not care about what malcontents think of him and his work. But then I read he was being stalked by anti-vaxxers.

I can not imagine a more decent, kind hearted, humble, and altruistic gentleman than Peter Hotez. There is not a malignant thought in his gentle soul. He has spent his entire career advocating for and researching medical treatments for the most impoverished areas of the world. He could have made ten times more money with less noble ambitions but he loves practical science and the underserved.

Quite frankly Atticus you are not even one hundredth the man that Peter Hotez is. Your post is shameful, craven, and odious. You are lower than dog shit, another useless redneck failure who hates all people who have done positive good with their lives because you know you are too incompetent and stupid to ever be of use to anyone. Including yourself.

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