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I agree that FJB is too old to run for reelection. He's not incompetent and is by any measure a fit and healthy 80 but it's still too much to be 80+ running for re-election for president. He has to be fair accomplished a lot of good policy even with republican obstruction so I do give him credit there. That being said he should step aside and let the younger Dems run on delivering the change this country needs. He's past his expire date imo but won't let it go. Which sucks for us liberals who want change. Right now it's a toss up between him and a 91 count indicted from and that's really bad for Dems. Trump can really win this nextt election and it wouldn't be by cheating or anything else, he's that popular. My only hope is he comes to his senses and withdraws but I really don't see that happening. It'll be a genuine trip if trump wins. I fear democracy will end but that is just my personal opinion. Anyways Biden is clearly the better of the two choices, especially if you want a functioning democracy. Only time will tell who runs/wins so buckle up lol
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Actually inflation is down, real wages are going up. Most economic indicators are pointing up so far as the economy goes. The media is doing so pretty poor job of explaining that I'm real terms but in actuality the economy is doing quite well by all actual standard measurements
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Oh please, stop with that Trojan Horse. Republicans always complain -- and then provide no better solution. If you didn't have an election denying nut poised to take over, that Newsom recall might have done better. But now you're committing the same mistake, complaining about Biden and giving us Trump. And that means one thing to the majority of Americans. No thank you! Give us a viable alternative, otherwise all the complaining is garbage.
We all know (well, anyone who cares about facts that is) that the inflation was caused first by the Covid lockdowns ending, and then corporations figuring out that they could make money by pushing up prices using everything that happened as an excuse. The inflation is built into the price. Today, the inflation rate is rather low, which means that everything remains expensive, but doesn't get much worse than this. Unless Trump will cause a deflation, nothing is going to change in this regard even if you vote him in.
See, us Democrats have something called "foresight". That fearmongering bullshit doesn't work on us.
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@Iwan.t, I'm not convinced in So Cal. Plenty of rental spaces for businesses that have closed.
Gas is up. Inflation is still here. Food cost is up an average of 30%
It won't be long before Los Angeles has a huge illegal population problem.
I expect more restaurants to close by next year.
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I just read that Newsom is on the verge of signing AB 1228, that will raise the min wage for fast
food chains with more than 60 locations nationwide.to $20.
That will probably kill the fast food industry in CA.
It seems like there is a plan in CA to drive out people and businesses.
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Real inflation is down to 2.5%. is argue the rate of borrowing money is way too high to justify that low off inflation and Is cooking the economy but it is very low. Not sure about a $20 min wage job for fast food, seems unsastainable to me
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seems the more FUCKING money they get at the fast food places...the shittier the service.
7 out of 10 times...they fuck the order up. 2 of those 7 times its soo bad, they have to drive back and get it fixed
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The only real way to fix this economy is to get rid of lobbiest for starters. Then term limits. Retirement requirements at 75. All congress and senator official must be present to vote on matters.
Complete transparent financial audit to show no funny business is going on.
And so on.
Period!
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These comments are proof that hx libtards are dumberer than the average libtard
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^ Well, I'm not going there, but for the most part, all the first comments completely missed the point.
You can't blame the media or Reps or Trump on this one.
The numbers in the first post are reported by Americans based on their experience.
Most have fallen behind for 3 years now.
While I agree with Iwan that the reported econ numbers seemed to have stabilized somewhat lately, those aggregate reported numbers DON'T matter to people.
All they care about is their own personal experience.
Right now, it's disillusionment with FJB.
Even independents are shifting away from Joe.
If you truly believe that re-electing FDT will lead to a "threat to democracy" as we know it..........then you should be looking for an alternative to FJB now, or very very soon.
PS. Make no mistake, FJB wants to run against FDT because he thinks he can beat him........hence the 91 indictments. By focusing on FDT in this way, he sucks the oxygen away from other candidates and hardens the Trump crew's determination that it's a political witch hunt.
The margin in the last two elections was less than 80,000 votes, so both sides are playing with fire. Might come down to how many Independents, like me, get drunk and wait til we're in the booth to decide.......of course, in CA, my vote won't matter. But, in the swing states???
This is just a friendly warning.
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"It'll be a genuine trip if trump wins. I fear democracy will end but that is just my personal opinion."
You see this is what we get when Liberals are drinking the MSM Lemonade.
DJT has his popularity because they same people that respond to the polls OP cites want to move back towards fiscal sanity and Democratic norms.
These people can see through Biden's bullshit policies which are not only an abject failure both domestic and foreign it is rooted in Federal overreach which is antithetical to "Democracy" and states governance.
The Orange man is not a threat to Democracy, not in the least. He is a very real threat to the unelected Deep state beurocrats, Lobbyists, and Globalists who are driving this country into the dirt.
We need a President who will shun the globalist agenda which the destruction of this country. How do begin to explain a wide open border.
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All votes matter because of the focus on popular vote.
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Can I even say all votes matter or will these liberal idiots call that racist?
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Hey black coffee matters right now.. with doughnuts.
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Trying to canvas political votes on HX blogs is... certainly quite the choice.
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I agree that having a “back up” candidate right now is the smart play for Dems.
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Jack you see those dark Brandon coffee social media posts?
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"Seventy percent of Americans believe that the economy is getting worse"
That is because most Americans haven't got the slightest clue about inflation or its causes. All they know is that things are more expensive now than they were a year ago. Not to mention corporate greed. The pandemic caused a big temporary spike in inflation due to the supply chain problems, but once the pandemic seemed to get under some degree of control corporations did not reduce their prices back to pre-pandemic levels. They know that once the population becomes accustomed to the higher prices they will just continue to pay them, usually without question or complaint.
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It's not the rnc or repubs but the dnc who refuse to have a primary, even though there are two people running against ooollddd joe - RFK & williamson and keep changing the rules to make it all but impossible for either to win the nomination.
Not only does it show that the biggest threat to democracy is the dem party but it also shows just how scared shitless the dnc is of RFK & williamson, or any other potential candidate and how WEAK biden actually is.
The dnc has gone the route of every communist country - picking the guy they want rather then letting the people CHOOSE who they want to lead the country. Weaponizing federal agencies to take out their political opponents and using censorship to stop the free flow of ideas.
THAT'S the biggest threat to democracy and the dnc and dem elites are the tip of the spear.
Atticus Finch
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From a pure political standpoint; the United States is supposed to be a federation of states, but I fear that we are quickly becoming a federation of cults!
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Seventy percent of Americans believe that the economy is getting worse because year over year for the past three years prices steadily have gone up. The Pandemic didnt produce anything in the way spiked inflation despite supply chain shortages.
With oil now selling between $80 and $110 a barrel since Jan 2022 compared to $50 to $70 when we established "energy independence" you can see how the price of energy affects the economy. During the Pandemic the price of oil spiked down.
@Tom: I just saw now saw a dark Brandon YouTube video. Funny I would comment about black coffee.
@Shitcan: Make sure the next Democrat candidate has an acceptable favorite ice cream flavor and looks good in Aviator sunglasses while taking Tee-ball questions from the lamestream media.
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And with regards to "cults" ...
Yes anyone who thinks there are 97 genders, men can menstruate and get pregnant, and that parents should let the govt take people away from them if the parents dont "affirm" their chosen gender...
That's a fucking cult.
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Corporate greed is a canard, sure there's some of that, as well as personal greed and union greed and teacher greed and executive greed and HX greed.......but overall, it's a bright shiny object meant to distract you from what's really going on.
Sure the pandemic knocked a lot of supply-chains out of whack but inflation is caused by 2 things really.............The Fed artificially inflating money supply in an attempt to pay for the budgetary overspending of Congress (both sides of the aisle).........Presidents are only too happy to go along to get along. FDT did and now FJB is blowing off the doors.
Think multi-trillion dollar budget deficits along with Quantitative Easing.
Finally, the Fed is trying to take the punch bowl away but we've been drinking a heady brew of zero % interest rates for 10 years now. It's going to be a helluva hangover when the recession hits......and they always do hit, don't they?
I like the Federation of Cults concept but may i suggest Federation of Tribes?
A little less negative connotation with the spiciness of Internecine Tribal Warfare.
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Let's face it, the Reps are having a go at it in the nomination process, but at the end of the day, if they choose FDT..........Then they live and die by that sword until the fat fuck dies........or finally loses again. Once he's gone, the Reps will have to pick up the pieces and find a new direction.
OTOH, Dems should really start looking for a Plan B now.
It's another 14 months before the election and it looks increasingly as though FJB will be so feeble by then, the whole Dem strategy of FJB vs. FDT falls apart at the last minute.
AND, he has a huge problem with KH.
Can't really keep her, as she's a huge liability......everybody knows a vote for FJB now is a vote for FKH later. Can't jettison the anchor either, cause then he'd have to pick a new black woman.....maybe Hey0?
Anyhoo, if FJB went out like a winner (as on top of his game as he'll ever be), help be a kingmaker for the new generation and the Dems go thru the nomination process for a strong candidate...........
They'd have a very good chance of owning that White boondoggle on Pennsylvania.......in 2024 and possibly beyond. Right now, things are very precarious and even David Ignatius at WAPO has gone public with a "FJB should not run in 2024".
The cracks are appearing to widen, time to look at Plan B.
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Raki baby, always good for a laugh!
"See, us Democrats have something called "foreskin". That fact-mongering bullshit doesn't work on us."
*fify
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I think they have a 'plan b' already - since they're not going to allow a primary they'll wait till the convention and fjb will announce he can't accept the nomination for 'family reasons' or some other bs reason. Then the dnc will bring up his replacement - gruesome, m. obummer etc.
Atticus Finch
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They are fucked. They are all-in on a weakened Trump strategy. All thy need is one or two swing states to use 14th amendment to kick him off the ballot. That's all they got.
If Joe doesn't run, they have to give the nod to Kackala. Who wants to be the woke libtard to displace a black female lol?
Clock is ticking. Less than a month to get on the ballot. And even less time for fundraising and profile raising.
Democrats pushed all in on suited connectors. Good luck with that
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^ Totally spot on
And yesterday RFK Jr just had a security scare on Friday evening as he attended an event with the Hispanic community in Los Angeles of all places.
He was in California to celebrate Hispanic Heritage Month, when an armed man claimed to be part of his security provided by event organizers.
Fucking Newsom
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^ Don't forget fjb refused him secret service protection when he asked for it last month.
Atticus Finch
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Yup. Every presidential candidate has had security details since his fucking dad was killed but this evil democrat empire is too busy sending assassins to execute 75 year old Facebook bullies in their homes
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I think they have a 'plan b' already - since they're not going to allow a primary they'll wait till the convention and fjb will announce he can't accept the nomination for 'family reasons' or some other bs reason. Then the dnc will bring up his replacement - gruesome, m. obummer etc.
I believe this is exactly what will happen and they've already picked who it will be. Even the dems aren't stupid enough to run fjb again.
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70% of the population have been identified as clueless hillbillies.
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70% of the population have been identified as grown ass crybabies who have no kind of conversation.
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August 19, 1982
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October 10, 1983
45% approval rating.
November 1984.
Mondale wins DC and Minnesota.
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^ Did you even read what you posted?
Is it possible for a cognitive decline of this magnitude to occur at your age in the short time we've known you? How about we give you a mulligan, a do over.....surprised you didn't TOS........again.
Reagan was 73 in 1984, FJB is 80 now....81 next year. That's a long 8 years at that age and Joe is clearly heading south fast.
FJB's numbers on this poll were 60%, 70%, even 80% bad job compared to 41% or 47% bad for Reagan.
This is not about comparing dick sizes Hey0, winning argument points in some imaginary game you play in your basement with mom and your Barbie doll.
This is a warning from people in his own party, FJB should be doing the Dems a favor by moving aside early.
Hell, FDT should do the same.....but he's not really a Repub and doesn't give a shit about the party he shanghaied. For him, this is a reckoning.....so he won't quit no matter what. Lying fuck knows he lost and was quoted in the WH as saying "Can you believe I got beat by this guy?"
Let's not get sidetracked, k?
Joe could be the better man here AND help his party.
It's that simple
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^ nailed it. Hx lo yards scour the interwrbz looking for anything they can twist or misquote to win an argument in RA. Zero interest in actually becoming informed and learning the truth
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Can you imagine Newsom on the debate stage being asked if he's going to turn America into San Francisco?
Of course the DNC has to wait until the last moment possible to kick Joe aside.
Newsom is Soro's golden creation of Progressive ideology. Ready to deliver America into the hellscape of communism.
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From what I’m reading in this blog, it’s clear that Republicans are scared shitless about 2024.
As we all know, Trump is sounding increasingly unstable as he grows more worried about his future in prison. He’s making crazy, nonsensical comments (claiming Joe may start WWII; don’t tell the dumb fuck that WWII ended in 1945), and the RNC is going to be left with an unelectable candidate who has dominated the Republican primaries.
I don’t like Joe’s age, but he’s significantly more electable than Trump and would 100% win if pitted against each other. I’m sure you all know that. The polls up to this point are meaningless. If I were polled, I would I would say that I prefer Joe not run again because of his age, but I would obviously vote for him if pitted against Trump.
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They laughed when Trump predicted inflation record gas prices…
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MA1 sets phasor gun to full deflection yet again
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I paid $6.29/gal for regular gas yesterday in Yorba Linda...
But I am sure Joe Biden has nothing to do with that (and to a lesser extent Gavin "Baby Moonbeam" Newsom.
It must be Trump's fault and Putin's fault, and the fallout from all of that Russian Collusion. Yeah. That must be it.
$6.00 gas. But the economy? It must be just fine. Keep selling that, commies.
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"I don’t like Joe’s age, but he’s significantly more electable than Trump and would 100% win if pitted against each other."
Ay Caramba, MA misses the point wide by a mile, as usual.
This was NOT meant as a blog on the relative electability of Trump vs. Biden
And, your comment above is just you "hoping" that the polls aren't lying when they show these two bozos essentially tied. Typical Prog blinders and "fake it til you make it".
The topic is what FJB can do right now for the good of his party and the country.
Sure, you can HOPE that the low information indies walk in that day and vote FJB but given the trajectory of prices, the economy, Joe's inability to speak in a non-gibberish language about what he's doing, etc..........but understand you're playing with fire here.
With the voters that closely divided, less than 80,000 votes in a few swings states.........FJB could easily lose in 2024, nothing is 100% guaranteed.
I don't want FDT as president again, NOR do I want FJB again.
Independents, Dems AND Reps are polling that they don't like either choice.
SO, give us another option cause we all know right now that the Reps will NOT.
They don't have a choice, FDT has the reins of this runaway Rep stage coach as it careens down the mountain with one wheel flying off into a mesa and the other into a ravine.
Give us an option.............please!
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Any Republican > Trump > almost any democrat> Biden > Harris
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There ARE 3 options - RFK, Williams & West.
Take your pick.
And with over 60% of dems saying they don't want fjb I'd say his electability isn't as good as you think.
Especially if RFK goes Independent like he says he's now looking into since the dnc is once again rigging the election by changing the rules so neither he nor Williamson stand a chance. Black voters are also fleeing and they're the only reason fjb won last time.
Nope, don't thing fjb has a chance and if they put gruesome in his place I'd bet he gets blasted in the general. He's got WAY to much baggage from fucking up California.
RFK will also pull a lot of the Independents & repubs as well as a lot of dems.
The only chance they MAY have is if they put up obummer's wife. But most of the country has a really bad taste in their mouth from obummer, so I doubt that'll put them over the top.
Atticus Finch
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RFK and West are going to destroy Bidens chances for sure.
Democrats need to learn the hard lesson that the way to win elections listen to cheat for the river system, but the change your platform to appeal to a broader group of Americans.
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This math gets really complex and unknowable at some point.
Found this article from Brookings that might shed some light.
And, before the usual dipshits tell me Brookings is a far-right group of crazies, I also found the following:
"The New York Times has called Brookings liberal, liberal-centrist, and centrist.[68][18][69][70][71][72] The Washington Post has called Brookings centrist, liberal, and center-left.[73][74][75][76][22] The Los Angeles Times called Brookings liberal-leaning and centrist before opining that it did not believe such labels mattered."
I don't have any bias for or against Brookings, as I have almost no experience with them, even though they've been around a long time.
We're just having a discussion here, so take it however you like.
Point is, itscloser than you think and Joe has the sole opportunity to be a hero here by stepping aside.
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Biden trails Trump head to head. Either Kennedy or West running makes Biden a likely loser. Both makes him a dead man walking. Can’t wait. I honestly hope that trumps surge in popularity from these bogus indictments and the Democratic parties sleazy shutting out Robert F Kennedy, Junior, forcing him to run as an independent leads to a massacre loss for Biden in the general election. You reap what you sow motherfuckers
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I hear you and they do deserve it.
BUT, and this is an epic BUT............(I mean not a Lizzo butt, yet still epic)
It would leave us with FDT as President, which is no bueno
Not that I give a shit about this "democracy in peril" garbage
I just can't see any policy of his that's good for the US.
10% import duty on ALL goods? This is just plain populist stupidity
Political litmus test for all immigrants? Unworkable and unconstitutional
In fact, I don't see much policy at all beyond endless rehashing of an election he lost
Allah knows FDT has a chokehold on the Rep party........for what reason, I'll never understand
Did you hear that even populist Bernie Bros are warming up to FDT???
World has gone fucking crazy.
Anyway, FJB could kill 2 birds with one stone:
Remove FKH from the equation unless she can win a nomination on her own (will NEVER happen)
Set the Dems up for a new generation into the future and quite likely nominate someone that would eliminate FDT for good.
The same 77% of voters who think FJB is too old to run are also 51% that FDT is too old to run.
Allah save us.
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I will say that I went to an RFK thing here i Austin several weeks ago to hear what he had to say - a friend of mine is a VERY enthusiastic RFK supporter, I think he may surprise EVERYONE.
Forget the vax stuff, although if you actually listen to his position on vaccines it makes perfect sense, cause he never talked about it. He actually spent most of his time talking about the border, a path for a voter ID that makes complete sense and would be easy to get for anyone that needs it and the economy.
But what really got me is that I talked to a lot of people there and there were Independents, repubs and dems there and ALL of the ones I talked to were backing him. And really excited by him.
After listening to him I understand it - he had some very simple, common sense solutions to a lot of problems.
But the more important thing, to me at least, is it seems like he may be able to do the impossible - unite the country.
I'm just making that judgement from the amount of people from different parties who were all there to see and meet him and they weren't just those 3. There were also libertarians, greens and a several from the people's party.
He also hung around to meet EVERYONE that wanted to meet him and ask him a question, and it wasn't a small venue. I fact when we got there was a line of people without tickets hoping to be able to buy a ticket at the door and the ones that had hung out till after the event he made sure to meet them as well.
Atticus Finch
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