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Locked. No further comments permitted.Today in gloom: behold oh Israel
Oct 7 2023 02:09PM more by sherkahn
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Well, that is escalating really fast really ugly.

Hamas has taken hostages and has active, coordinated hit and run attacks within Israel itself, and for the first time in a long time Israel is scared. While Jerusalem insists that people will pay for the attack, 2000 misdialed have hit, and the revered Israeli defense forces are caught unprepared.

Social media reports that have not been filtered by Israeli leaders show it’s worse than they say.

And Hamas is reaching out to get allied nations to join in the attack.
      
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Oct 7 2023 04:30PM     link to this

Love the gloom, baby!
Also, the humor!

"And Hamas is reaching out to get allied nations to join in the attack."

So, that would be the Taliban, Iran, Syria and Qatar.
Against us, the Israelis, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Fatah and more

That should go really well for Hamas, winning!

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Oct 7 2023 04:35PM     link to this

Been here, done this.
The people that live around Hamas will get totally fucked and this is part of the plan.
Attack so the Israelis will kick your ass, then raise money from idiots like the US.........
Let's see $6 billion for Iran, money to Palestinian Authority which gets funneled to Hamas.
We really love to do stupid...........

Nuke them til they glow, then shoot them in the dark.

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Oct 7 2023 04:50PM     link to this

It's hard to believe that Mossad had no idea this attack was coming, Especially when it's the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur War. I'm surprised that Bibi hasn't declared martial law yet.
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Oct 7 2023 05:02PM     link to this

"Let's see $6 billion for Iran, money to Palestinian Authority which gets funneled to Hamas. "

Literally 000000.00000% of that 6 billion was given to Iran to buy weapons or provide any other group with weapons. That money is from the sale of oil to South Korea and was released to Quatar to be held in escrow. It can only be released for humanitarian aid such as food or medicine. Furthermore it can only be released after the US approves it. So far exactly ZERO DOLLARS have been approved for release so to say that the money was used to front this attack is either intellectually dishonest or just plain stupid. Hamas planner this for months, if not years, and it's tragic. But to somehow conflate us agreeing to release money that was literally theirs to begin with as the cause of this tragedy is just retarded.
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Oct 7 2023 05:07PM     link to this

I say good. I love turmoil. Isreal is a bully.
LONG LIVE PALISTINE!!
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Oct 7 2023 05:11PM     link to this

I agree with you in principle but can't agree with Hamas choosing to deliberately attack innocent women and children like they did today. The Israel's have basically enforced an untenable situation on the Palestinian people with their settlement policy. But today was a step too far imo. Expect Israel to go scorched earth once they either get their hostages back or their killed. Once there's no more hostages Israel is going to go HAM on the west bank
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Oct 7 2023 05:47PM     link to this

@bwana. So, the attack is actually the fault of Israel, right? It's like the mayor of Chicago blaming automakers for the rise in auto theft. It's not that people should know better than to steal. It's that automakers should not have made cars such an easy target.
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Oct 7 2023 05:52PM     link to this

Bwana's post never faulted the Israel's. He simply pointed out that with all the sophistication and advanced technology available to Mossad they should have been aware this was in the works. I agree. This type of attack likely took several months if not years to coordinate. That Israel was caught with their pants down speaks to internal turmoil. Hamas couldn't have done this ona weekends planning. This was a very long term plan and should have been sniffed out by Mossad. A failure of this magnitude evokes 9/11 US failure to anticipate what bin laden was planning
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Oct 7 2023 06:17PM     link to this

LOL. You'll forgive me if I expect bwana to bring a certain bias to the conversation. Not that I expect a response from him. His M.O. is the drive-by.
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Oct 7 2023 06:21PM     link to this

Iwan.


Google "money is fungible"

Whether Biden does it, or Obama flys a plane load of Cash to Iran, the Iranians will use it as they want to, which is to fund terrorism.

Pity some don't seem to see that.
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Oct 7 2023 06:29PM     link to this

"But to somehow conflate us agreeing to release money that was literally theirs to begin with as the cause of this tragedy is just retarded."

Money is fungible, nobody stated that this released money was the proximate cause of this (tragedy?) .....this was somehow unexpected, an act of Allah or something? A tragedy is when a dam breaks or a storm strikes. Hamas attacking is more like the sun coming up, pretty much expected except it was a Holiday.

Iran is under sanctions, so NO.....this money isn't theirs until they're no longer under sanctions for the evil shit they do. Again, money is fungible......who the fuck would trust Qatar, they're in bed with Hamas. Plus, you free this sanctioned money up, that allows Iran to spend other money elsewhere.

Talk about double retarded, off the scale idiocy.

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Oct 7 2023 06:32PM     link to this

Damn, sorry remo.......you already posted about the fungible part.
It's just so difficult to watch morons with no moral compass post the shit they do.
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Oct 7 2023 06:41PM     link to this

So you actually believe that money that's earmarked for aid played any decision making into Hamas pulling this attack off? LOFUCKINGL. They don't give a fuck about the people of Palestine anymore than you or I care about Biden's dog lol. The 6 billion is irrelevant to the conversation, other than right wing talking points. This attack most likely took years to plan and the money war just released in the last couple of months. Nobody with any sense can conflate the two as being dependant on each other. You're a fucking moron if you think otherwise.
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Oct 7 2023 06:53PM     link to this

RS, forgive me if I'm not on HX all day waiting to give you a response. We all bring biases here. Which is why posting all day is a waste of time, because no one changes their minds here, no one is "owning" anyone.
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Oct 7 2023 06:58PM     link to this

Agreed. Just enjoy pointing out stupidity when it is obvious lol
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Oct 7 2023 07:14PM     link to this

Oh no, I do feel owned.

There's no doubt in my mind that $6 billion held by a Hamas ally will NEVER find its way to anybody that might plan an attack in the future someday........absolutely 100% could not happen.

Praise Allah that you have enlightened the poor low IQ heathens among us.

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Oct 7 2023 07:18PM     link to this

Those are two different things. You claimed the 6 billion was somehow responsible for the current attack. I'm only pointing out your an idiot for expecting the 6 billion had anything to do with this CURRENT attack. You're welcome😘
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Oct 7 2023 07:29PM     link to this

like all other arguments...that money was not used for the attack

ok?

but it freed up other money dumb fuck. stop it

that 150b fueled iranian terror for quite a while...would thought the world would have learned a bit...not just the left in our country

btw...we were fucking sending UKR defense missiles that cost 1million bucks to shoot down the 20k iranian drone. we know this and still DEALING with iran on them getting nukes, even russia as part of negotiations...that's fucking stupid math that can't go on, but they keep doing it.


israel might be ready this time to give iran a big thump about now









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Oct 7 2023 08:06PM     link to this

Again, for the cognitively impaired. That money came in the last two months. This attack took YEARS to plan. The 6 billion literally had zero to do with this attack. If you want to argue about releasing money, that already beings to them lol, should or shouldn't be allowed that's fine. But the 6 billion literally meant nothing towards this attack. Can't slow it down anymore for you idiots
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Oct 7 2023 08:09PM     link to this

And for the record we're dealing with Iran so they DON'T get nukes. How that helps lol
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Oct 7 2023 08:16PM     link to this

stop it

no one said 6b just got lit up in smoke in the attack

would you BET YOUR LIFE IT had nothing to do with it? MEANING we attack and started a war that will NEED some fucking money to sustain for months.


it's not like they all start with ZERO nickels to rub together...they have been selling drones to russia...the ones WE need to sometimes shoot down with very expensive missiles







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Oct 7 2023 08:20PM     link to this

If I was willing to bet my life it would definitely be that the attack was decided upon the 50 year anniversary of Yom kippur, not that we allowed 6 billion in humanitarian aid. Just like 9/11 was based on 911 rather then some arbitrary made up date that bin laden decided. Just my .02 cents worth
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Oct 7 2023 08:30PM     link to this

that works

but 6b for humanitarian aid does what? it frees up money


was the 6b end all be all trigger? probably not...but it will help them sustain a long war they MIGHT not have otherwise just started...but WHO knows for sure...we can only go by their history and rhetoric

that 150b a while back pretty much started years' worth of terror

guess it's all on the side you're on... we've seen it.

time will tell


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Oct 7 2023 08:34PM     link to this

You fail to realize that 6 billion or 600 billion in humanitarian aid means nothing to Hamas. They're a terrorist organization, they don't care about anyone but their own psycho means. Put it another way. We could offer Hamas 6 billion to disband and leave Israel alone. Would they take it? Fuck no, they're committed to the destruction of Israel. No amount of money will change that, period.
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Oct 7 2023 08:38PM     link to this

but they are smart enough to KNOW they need weapons and money or be wiped off the map...they are being coached and financed

yes they are crazy fucks that are on a mission



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Oct 7 2023 08:43PM     link to this

They're being funded by Iran and Russia. Iran didn't get, and actually still hasn't gotten, any part of the 6 billion we agreed to let South Korea give them. This attack took many months, more likely years to plan. To somehow conflate that us agreeing to release those funds with the attack is extremely stupid and abjectively retarded. They couldn't have known a year plus ago that we would agree to release these funds. Which is what you're saying if you blame this attack on that money.
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Oct 7 2023 08:47PM     link to this

OK, so at this point, you're being purposely obtuse and obsessed?
Good for you, feel better now?

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Oct 7 2023 08:52PM     link to this

Lol I don't think you even know what obtuse and obsessed actually mean based on your post. I'm neither. I've clearly articulated my points and will gladly back them up with posts by legacy media if necessary. You just seem like someone with a superiority complex and from reading you I suggest Dunn-Kruger lol
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Oct 7 2023 09:01PM     link to this

have fun with yourself

person A wins the lottery...1.4b. he goes out and buys a home two days later..but he didn't get the money yet

knowing money is there and coming is the SAME thing


but you keep trying to hang your hat on that tiny little peg of they haven't gotten their hands on it yet. countries in general don't operate like they have zero bucks in the bank...shit goes on and spending occurs




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Oct 7 2023 09:08PM     link to this

@starfish

Ladies and scoundrels, the finest example of boy math yet written.
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Oct 7 2023 09:15PM     link to this

Insearchofdipshit, they planned this attack for years. There's literally no way conceivable that they expected the US to agree to unfreeze their money. Your analogy would work except for the fact that the bank isn't lending money on expected income but rather provable income. Like the guy that won the 2 billion dollar powerball recently. He's bought 3 homes, one was for like 25 million, one was for 70 million, and one was for 3.5 million (I'm estimating here, not totally sure of the actual purchase prices). He was only able to actually buy them once his lottery funds actually cleared. He wasn't able to buy them on "I promise to pay you once my money gets here". That's how the real world works lol
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Oct 7 2023 09:17PM     link to this

Have you considered a 5150 for your obsession?
Iwanto help
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Oct 7 2023 09:22PM     link to this

Technically it should be iWanto help, the i is always smaller case lol. And no I don't have an obsession with any of this. I just like to argue and I'm in the final stages of confirming my outcall lol. She's ready just trying to figure out a ride situation. Fuck it I may just send an Uber lol
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Oct 7 2023 09:24PM     link to this

Trade places?
I got nothing better right now than this and it makes me feel like HeyIDon'tHaveALife

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Oct 7 2023 09:26PM     link to this

Ohhhh, the dreaded Dunning Krueger post
That's the sure sign you know you've lost

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Oct 7 2023 09:29PM     link to this

"legacy media"

Don't even know what to do with that giant turd that just got dropped in the pool
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Oct 7 2023 09:30PM     link to this

Dude you're intelligent, you can be funny. You have nothing to worry about by being alone. I chose to be alone more than I choose to interact with people. Not because of anything, I'm funny, charming, and relatable, but because I've found I really don't like people all that much. I don't hate people like I'm going to write a manifesto and merk everyone in a Walmart or anything. I just don't like stupidity and I find most people to be dumb
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Oct 7 2023 09:33PM     link to this

Dunning Kruger is apt to describe someone that overstimates their intelligence lol. And legacy media is WaPo, NYT. Basically the expected primary sources for the truth. Not that they both don't have their own biases but generally speaking you can count on what they print to be factually accurate or they'll print a retraction
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Oct 7 2023 09:35PM     link to this

You doing a vulcan mind meld on the site now?
Thought you were gone 20 minutes ago, yet still posting on like 5 blogs.
Slow down there, Axel.
Make her wish she never accepted the date!
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Oct 7 2023 09:41PM     link to this

I'm stuck at her whim. Lost text I got was she might be available tonight after all. We had previously scheduled a date but then her ride flaked. I'm not blowing her up. If she's available then she'll text me. Otherwise I can go back to looking lol
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Oct 7 2023 09:42PM     link to this

"Not that they both don't have their own biases but generally speaking you can count on what they print to be factually accurate or they'll print a retraction"

Maybe you should take some down time from your esteemed legacy media and try this thing they got now that Pubs are always trying to burn.....they call them books?

May I suggest "Gray Lady Down" by McGowan?
NYT and WAPO are much more than just biased.
Having said that, I do read the NYT.......then discount 50%, oftentimes they don't print retractions or it'll be on page 37 under the fold with the obits.
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Oct 7 2023 09:47PM     link to this

I agree that their biases are typically in the spirit of truth incorrect. But they don't print outright lies, they just spin the truth to nearly unrecognizable. But if you read either and use other sources, suck as Twitter, you can usually figure out the truth from the plain text. The editorializing is way too much I agree but generally the facts stand on their own, minus the spin.
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Oct 7 2023 09:55PM     link to this

Nicely done #lsr
Like a true pro
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Oct 7 2023 09:56PM     link to this

You can have a twofer, if we get there again
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Oct 7 2023 09:57PM     link to this

Thanks. I've been doing this since 07 lol
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Oct 7 2023 10:09PM     link to this

Lebanon has just gotten into the mix, as missiles have left Lebanese territory, and Israel has responded.
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Oct 7 2023 10:10PM     link to this

Need a little help here, feel like I'm carrying a fuck ton of Progressives on my back.
50 is looking pretty distant
I'm fading.............


















No, I'm not.

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Oct 7 2023 10:11PM     link to this

Thx Gloom guy!
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Oct 7 2023 10:11PM     link to this

iWant?
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Oct 7 2023 10:20PM     link to this

Damn, guerilla warfare.
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