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Oct 8 2023 07:00AM more by ocguy66
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Is it me, or is there just not a lot of coverage of Ukraine/Russia war? Israel/Hamas is all over the place.

I want to see where my tax dollars are going to.... Something like: Here’s a $500,000 rocket blowing up a weapons cache or here’s a $3B tank firing into a Russian base.
      
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Oct 8 2023 07:17AM     link to this

The Ukraine's have already lost the 'war'. MSM hates covering a lost cause + the 'with drawl' is going to be worse then Afghanistan which will come back to roost on biden, the dems & the dnc. MSM doesn't cover bad press for the dems.

It was/is a HUGE mistake to not let ukraine and russia either sign the minsk accords or the peace treaty they'd worked out. Instead Ukraine lies in ruins, half million Ukrainians are dead and right now the average age of the Ukrainian soldiers is 40.

What a complete and total waste!

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Oct 8 2023 07:21AM     link to this

AticusFinoochi is right!
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Oct 8 2023 07:22AM     link to this

Ocguy is right!
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Oct 8 2023 07:31AM     link to this

Yeah I fully agree with Atticus.

They should have signed the peace deal but nooooo.


They needed to a place to go launder money.

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Oct 8 2023 07:51AM     link to this

^ Don't forget blackrock wanted to steal the farm land and grain from the Ukrainians and the war was a perfect vehicle for that.

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Oct 8 2023 08:18AM     link to this

You know how it is; "if it bleeds, it leads!"

The information about the war in Ukraine is becoming stale. Gaza/Israel is fresh. Got to get those clicks on as many ads as possible while the blood is still fresh in the streets!

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Oct 8 2023 08:33AM     link to this

Yeah but the media completely ignores the Maui fire follow up coverage.

Way too many 'odd coincidences' prior to the fire leading to a mass disaster.

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Oct 8 2023 08:47AM     link to this

The mainstream media is now saying this is Isreals 9/11. They are doing everything they can to drum up public support for Isreals war. Isreal does things behind the scenes to provoke the Palestinians then cry foul when they get it attacked.

US better not get involved they already given enough money to Ukraine. Israel has plenty of enemies on their borders who will support Hamas so this will be another Afghanistan 2.0 where America spends a bunch of tax payer money to fund a war they will eventually get nothing in return for. Let Isreal fight it's own battles.
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Oct 8 2023 11:39AM     link to this

The Israeli's have pretty much brought this on themselves - they've become an apartheid nation.

They've pushed and pushed and the Palestinians have had it and are pushing back.

It's SUCH a fucking waste and could have been avoided if the Israeli's had just treated them with an ounce of humanity.

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Oct 8 2023 12:32PM     link to this

fucking blackrock

ruined the porn industry...mother fuckers


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Oct 8 2023 12:39PM     link to this

^ Really? How'd blackrock do that???

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Oct 8 2023 12:56PM     link to this

ESG

they own 5 percent of pretty much all the companies out there...credit card companies forcing their requirements to keep broadcasting. so VANILLA porn all you will SEE going forward. can't even have a BEER in the scene sitting on a table 20feet away

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Oct 8 2023 01:06PM     link to this

Atticus I generally find your posts to be both insufferable and remedial lol. But must give you props for pointing out that Israel could have avoided this entire attack/war if they just treated the Palestinians with respect. The total disrespect of only giving the Palestinians settlements along with their total control over Palestinian movements directly led to tie attack.i can't excuse Hamas for their tactics, including taking women and children hostage. But I can understand their frustration. They're dealing with the short end of the stick. It was only a matter of time before they cracked back. Which is all the more puzzling that Mossad wasn't up on their plans
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Oct 8 2023 01:07PM     link to this

Forgot about esg.

But it's not just blackrock, remember van guard and state street are right there w/ blackrock.

In fact since they own stock in each other's company they're essentially one BIG corp.

FTC REALLY needs to break them up!

They're also ruining the real estate markets.

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Oct 8 2023 01:17PM     link to this

fully agree...yes those others there with them

they have a plan for UKR on the rebuild...if they get to one



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Oct 8 2023 01:48PM     link to this

Ukraine will be the next gold rush as far as contracts to rebuild. Besides the billions we'll commit Europe will also go overboard on funding a rebuild. Whoever has contracts/business with the US government will literally be swimming in money when it comes time to rebuild Ukraine. Makes me want to start a construction company lol
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Oct 8 2023 02:00PM     link to this

They have been fighting for a thousand years, and the will be fighting for the next thousand years.

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Oct 8 2023 02:21PM     link to this

+1 to Jack, the only rational post so far
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Oct 8 2023 02:32PM     link to this

The biden's have a construction llc.

Hunter Constitution Inc. He already has a foot in the door in that country.
Plus he can give legal advice.
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Oct 8 2023 04:00PM     link to this

Liberal leadership and policies have us on the brink of WW3 !




Liberals just keep throwing limp wrists and deny and deflect everything !
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Oct 8 2023 04:13PM     link to this

i'd say she's not running in 2024

Obama and former first lady Michelle Obama have also been silent about the attacks. No statement, thus far, has been issued by the Obama Foundation and the social media accounts for both Obamas have not commented on the matter.
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Oct 8 2023 04:57PM     link to this

Anyone who thinks the Ukrainians have *already* lost the war and that Israel is an apartheid nation has got to do a better job at getting access to better news sources because you sound very ignorant.
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Oct 8 2023 05:09PM     link to this

The black South Africans had no recourse to gain political power during Apartheid.
If Palestinians acknowledged the right for Israel to exist, the occupation would end, and Palestinians would be free to create their own sovereign state.
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Oct 8 2023 05:23PM     link to this

Two things going on in this blog, news coverage of U/R & Israel.

First, of course the media isn't covering that war, it would reflect badly on the white house & they can't have that.

Second on Israel, it's a complicated issue, and I'll leave this here to complicate it further - and to say that you will NOT, you can NOT have peace in the middle east until Muslim moms love their sons more than they hate jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Israel#:~:text=28%20UN%20member%20states%20do,%2C%20Bangladesh%2C%20Brunei%2C%20Indonesia%2C
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Oct 8 2023 05:26PM     link to this

^^It's not Ukraines war it's America's proxy war. Isreal is an apartheid state and they have a lot enemies on their border for that reason.
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Oct 8 2023 05:43PM     link to this

Don't confuse Palestine's struggles with the terror groups Hamas or Hezbollah. Hamas and Hezbollah assholes are Iranian backed terrorists. They hide behind Palestinian civilians like a bunch of fucking cowards.

The IDF challenged these cowardly terrorists today to come out and fight like men. He called them Nazis, and I don't disagree with that statement.

Let's see how Hamas and Hezbollah respond. The Palestinian UN spokesman blamed the US and western governments for this.

No mention of Iran using the Palestinian civilians as cannon fodder.

I say come out and fight and let's get this here thing done before a lot more innocent people are killed.

Of course, Hamas and Hezbollah will say there is not one Jew or Christian in that area who are innocent, so all people in Israel are fair game.

Iran wants to destroy Israel, and the US! That's you and me!

Those Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists exist for the sole purpose of doing that.


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Oct 8 2023 06:19PM     link to this

Iran in their wettest dreams can't even stage an actual attack on the US so chill out on the "Iran wants to destroy us" they're a regional power. Their reach stops within miles of their borders
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Oct 8 2023 07:05PM     link to this

Israel had a lot of enemies on her borders way before the West Bank and Gaza were occupied by Israelis.
It's a myth propagated by Putin that Ukrainians are "little Russians." See link.

Know your history.
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Oct 8 2023 07:24PM     link to this

First rule of life.

If you say something that Putin would agree with you are doing it wrong.
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Oct 8 2023 08:26PM     link to this

@Night-Rider

"If Palestinians acknowledged the right for Israel to exist, the occupation would end, and Palestinians would be free to create their own sovereign state."

And just where would that sovereign state exist - Mongolia? If Egypt would give up part of the Sinai then between Gaza and the Sinai there would be enough land for them to have their own country, but that probably isn't going to happen any time soon.

It is a tough situation that the Palestinians are in, they basically got their homeland taken away. But history is replete with people losing their homelands to others. Both the Palestinians and the Israelis have a strong historical claim to the region. I can empathize with the Palestinians as well as the Israelis. Just no easy solution.

So I guess we resort to the age-old rule - those with the biggest guns win!
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Oct 8 2023 08:33PM     link to this

The Palestinians could celebrate an Israel holy day and it wouldn't change the fact that Israel won their land via war. They won, Palestinians are shit out of luck trying to claim those lands regardless of historical claims. This is a never ending conflict. It'll never be decided, short of Israel using nukes lol.
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Oct 8 2023 09:14PM     link to this

possible palistinians living under hamas thumb would be BETTER off with israel getting rid of them... the AID they get might actually start helping them and be much larger

5000 rockets from iran were stopped...so they say.



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Oct 8 2023 10:12PM     link to this

There has been talk of the Palestinians get Gaza and parts of the West Bank, with other Arab States chipping in.

Arab states have thought about this. See link.
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Oct 8 2023 10:34PM     link to this

The Palestinians should get Gaza, it's their original homeland. But things are what they are. The Israel's won that territory in the 67 war. They aren't giving it back
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Oct 9 2023 12:00AM     link to this

just brutal shit

military-industrial complex are having quite the JERK fest


might be interesting to see if china thinks two fronts are enough for them to make a move...they bought a SHIT load of oil from iran in last few years...so for them? kills a FEW birds at once
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Oct 9 2023 12:56AM     link to this

No nation on earth can win a war against Russia, China or India on their home turf or realm of immediate influence. They can simply drag it out and win against you by attrition. Just look at history and its crystal clear what the outcomes have ALWAYS been like.

Just like no nation can come to the Americas and win against USA. No chance.

Anyone who says we can help the Ukrainians win are simply liars. They are not stupid, most are pretty damn smart. But they are also in the MIC's pockets. If they speak from any type of foundation or think tank, they are 100% in someone's pockets. They are paid to research and publish the payor's agendas. That is why these speakers exist.

Same with media. There are no unbias media in USA. They are ALL for profit. Even NPR which depends on gov't money. So long as there is a payor, you do as you are told or you have to guess right on what your payor wants without saying. Are there true facts and honesty? No. Or you have to pay close attention of news on the opposing side of ours and compare that with ours and judge for yourself. There will be some truth in the middle. Often times, it just depends on your own personal perspective.

Take the Palestinians for example. They can't buy a loaf of bread without crossing 10 check points. You know who else go through that according to USA? Uyghurs in Xinjiang.

Yet, USA is supporting Israel on one hand steadfastly and denouncing China on the other. See the irony here? Both Israel and China are doing the same thing against the Muslims they don't like. But the West is saying the Chinese are evil and Israeli's are victims. Really? Have you seen how the Jews are enslaving and subjugating those Palestinians in the tiny Gaza Strip and concentrated barbed wired camps in West Bank? I don't see no criticism by any politician there. Jew money is TOO good according to Kanye. What, no truth to that at all? Everyone is just silent and blind all of the sudden?

That's the price to pay living in a free and democratic world, freedom for money. The only difference is who's side are you on. The payor's motive don't change. It all about power, control, money.
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Oct 9 2023 06:55AM     link to this

cgerm is right!
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Oct 9 2023 07:16AM     link to this

There are no real wars anymore the threat of annihilation has eliminated that. That was the purpose of giving everyone nukes.

Now what we have these days are a bunch of unwinnable conflicts the mainstream media likes to call wars.

Isreal knows there is no scenario where they win anything will be more of the same in the end after month or two once this eventually dissolves into endless gorilla warfare.
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Oct 9 2023 08:20AM     link to this

The Palestinian people are considered the lowest scum of people by the other people of the Middle East. Egypt doesn't want them. Syria doesn't want them. Jordan doesn't want them. The Saudi's? No way. Same for Iraq, Iran, and Kuwait.

So they are stuck in Gaza. But that's not good enough. They want it all, and they want the Jews dead. Even if they got all of the Israeli land and reestablished Palestine, they would still not be happy until the Jews are all dead.

This isn't about land. These motherfuckers have a saying:

"GET THE SATURDAY PEOPLE FIRST. AND AFTER THAT, THE SUNDAY PEOPLE."

Who are the Sunday people? We are! They'll come for us too!
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Oct 9 2023 09:04AM     link to this

What a load of bullshit, yellow.

Again, more reasons why people like you need to be neutered. Without anesthesia.
So you don’t breed.
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Oct 9 2023 09:09AM     link to this

The Palestinians have legitimate beef with Israel. They're subjugated to settlement camps and treated as second class citizens in the same lands that were once theirs. The Israel's treat them like shit. They have a right to be pissed. I wouldn't have gone on a civilian killing rampage like they did but can also understand why they did. Fucked up situation for sure
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Oct 9 2023 09:18AM     link to this

You know nothings have never sat down, ate food and listened to both sides of the argument from people who live and have responsibilities in the region.
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Oct 9 2023 09:26AM     link to this

I've met several Palestinians here in socal. All that I've met feel like they're second class citizens and subjected to unfair rules like restricted movement. Grew up with plenty of Jews in Claremont lol. The American Jews don't really care about the fighting or what it's about. Can't say I've met an actual Jew from Israel tho so can't speak to their mindset. Most likely they feel like the Palestinians are terrorists because of the rocket attacks. At least I would think that if I was a Jew in Israel.
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Oct 9 2023 09:29AM     link to this

Apparently, nobody here knows the dif between the "Palestinian people" and Hamas. The majority in Gaza hate Hamas and want to be rid of them. Hopefully, the Heebs make that happen somehow.

But, I got a better idea, let's keep appeasing Iran and send them more money so they can fund some more proxy armies..........let the fun really begin!

Nobody seems to understand that this is a family feud, they're ALL semites and this shit been going on for more than a couple of thousand years.

Carry on, bitches

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Oct 9 2023 09:34AM     link to this

Correct on the Palestinian people don't equal Hamas. Hamas is a militant organization with one of it's stated goals is the absolute destruction of the Jewish people as well as Israel as a country. The majority of Palestinians would be happy to lose the settlements, gain equal status with the Jews, and go about living their lives in peace.
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Oct 9 2023 09:49AM     link to this

Everybody is talking about how Israel's oppression of the Palestine people prompted this attack. I think it is more likely it occured as a plan to help Russia with its Ukraine war effort.

It certainly will divert the worlds attention from Ukraine to Israel... Russia has to be please and probably involved in this development.

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Oct 9 2023 09:55AM     link to this

jack is right!
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Oct 9 2023 10:15AM     link to this

Russia is a sponsor of Iran and Iran was absolutely involved in this attack. Way to many moving parts and technical sophistication for this to have come from Hamas on their own
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Oct 9 2023 10:49AM     link to this

i spent some time over there, at the Gaza strip area.
this was back in the 80s - everyone over 18 went to the army and the people in the army were always carrying their weapons.
so you get on a bus and sit next to a 20 year old girl in uniform and with an uzi.
but this is the reason, they know attacks come at any time..
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Oct 9 2023 10:50AM     link to this

IWANiT is right!
Hamas is a bunch of cromagnons.
MTG is boning a dude from Hamas.
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