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Doesn't matter. Maga bad. Joe good. Heil Biden, followed by a Nazi salute......
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The scary part is that there are Dems who disapprove of Biden because he they think he hasn't been FORCEFUL NOR EXTREME ENOUGH. He hasn't packed the Court, hasn't forgiven all student debt, hasn't socialized healthcare, hasn't killed the filibuster, hasn't eliminated the electoral college, hasn't nationalized major industry, etc. etc.
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And let's not forget the people who think that the FBI raid and the speech last week were GOOD things.
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This nonsense?
Oh boy, you’ve been saying and hearing the same nonsense since February .
First it was the hard right Ukrainians who sabotaged talks, then it was Merkel as one of her last acts before leaving office Germany, then it was Biden, now it was Boris Johnson of the UK.
So over the nonsense as the blame keeps switching to easy targets.
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Sherkahn = Communist
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Damn Neocon warmongers do it again.
Seems they're always looking for another place to throw too much money into a laundering scheme masked as a war.
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Damn. You guys aren't very good at knowing when to be skeptical of your sources.
The deal was made by Russian negotiators who have relatively so low a status, they don't even get to deal with Putin directly. Putin would have had to agree. Doubtful he would have.
Interesting you guys jump at blaming Americans before you consider Putin.
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Lol, says Mr I kow covid... 🤡🤡🤡
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Damn. You guys are wrong on everything. If you told me the sun was out, I'd go get my umbrella.
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"Lol, says Mr I kow covid.."
Yeah. That's why I haven't gotten covid yet...
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Nr go get your 5th shot.
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The strategy of Biden and the neocons has always been to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. In other words a proxy war against Russia. To weaken Russia and strengthen NATO. That is the main reason why neither Biden nor the English ever tried to broker a peace treaty. Especially with Bidens ties to the Ukraine this could have been done.
Instead the US has sent around 60 billion to the Ukraine while babies went without formula and now parts of Mississippi are going it alone without decent water. .
Now they are casting their eyes to Taiwan. All this adds to the danger of nuclear war.
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Nr, you were wrong about ivermectin too.
Just like everything else regarding covid.
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There's a new paper on ivermectin that just came out.
The paper is trash.
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sure there's some actual math in there somewhere...where it's all going and how much of it spent?
believing a deal was to be had? give me a break
this was about energy, resources and protecting monopoly energy trading with europe...others were getting ready to infringe
who's happy now? poland(jumping for joy), the baltic states, and any other country fearing russia.
how's the message to china?
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Joe is currently sliden a Biden
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'believing a deal was to be had? give me a break'
And yet a member of the nsc is saying there was a tentative deal in place in April, a couple of months after its start. At least until the U.S., well the neocons in government, got involved.
Atticus Finch
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Hmmm…
I seem to have been alive back in April 2022 and as I recall , Zelensky and the majority of Ukrainians were saying this to the Western world:
1. Russia needs to be punished for the invasion
2. Ukrainians will not give up an inch, as it would dishonor all those who have sacrificed for Ukraine before
3. Why the fuck do are we being every day asked for the weapons we need? You have the list, nothing has changed since yesterday. You give us the weapons, we will fight.
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Here's the deal... the quote comes from Fiona Hill not some conspiracy theorist ... Im sure the geniuses at State have a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why they wanted to continue the death and destruction that is the Russia-Ukraine war.
Last sentence is sarcasm.
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This war and all of the supposed sanctions on Russia aren't hurting Putin much.
Western Europe headed towards big energy problems going towards fall/winter. And just in time when the Progressive Wizards of stupidity at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave have shut down domestic energy production and begging Iran of all folks for oil.
Jesus... What could go wrong here?...
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I think the globalist's are trying to turn planet Earth into the Death Star.
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“This war and all of the supposed sanctions on Russia aren't hurting Putin much.”
Except Putin is now desperate for fresh soldiers, and few are stepping up.
“ Russia is suffering “severe manpower shortages” in its 6-month-old war with Ukraine and has become more desperate in its efforts to find new troops to send to the front lines, according to a new American intelligence finding disclosed Wednesday.
Russia is looking to address the shortage of troops in part by compelling soldiers wounded earlier in the war to return to combat, recruiting personnel from private security companies and even recruiting from prisons, according to a U.S. official who spoke to the AP on the condition of anonymity to discuss the downgraded intelligence finding.”
“ Last week, President Vladimir Putin announced the Russian military will be increased by another 137,000 personnel, bringing its total on-paper strength to 1.15 million.
However, the senior defense official doubted the plan will significantly strengthen Russian forces in Ukraine.
Speaking at the DoD briefing, they said: "This effort is unlikely to succeed, as Russia has historically not met personnel and strength targets.
"In fact, if you look at the Russian armed forces, prior to the invasion, they may have already been 150,000 personnel short of their million personnel goal."
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Putin hasnt "Chechnya'd" Ukraine yet. I be extreme guard still if I was Ukraine. Lots of information we have no clue could be real from all sides. Best info we got is that the map of held territory is very standstill even recently
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My point is not about Putin winning on the Ukrainian front... things may be at a dismal stalemate or he may have to withdrawal.
The point concerns where does Western Europe turn to for energy if this war drags out? Putin DOESN'T have an energy problem.
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opinions on THIS shit are the exact same as anything else...once you have one, it ain't changing
some people are ANTI-spending on the military. kinda funny though, as some of those SAME people support the effort here in Ukraine...without that spending over the years, this shit isn't possible
protecting global trade would not be possible over the years
that's ok...russia and china would like to take America's place in protecting the trade. china navy has exploded in numbers...so they could be up for the job? or is that just to RULE the china sea area? probably not enough to even protect their energy imports from different parts of the world coming into china
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they had a FEW mini deals or ceasefires to get some people out.
thought russia might have been bombing trains and buses leaving
did they fire in the area of the ports when the GRAIN was trying to be shipped?
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Putin performing subpar on the battlefield but...
Russia has used its control of gas supplies to exert pressure on European countries in retaliation against sanctions imposed after its invasion of Ukraine. Gazprom, the Russian state-controlled gas company, closed the Nord Stream 1 pipeline from Russia to Germany on Friday, saying it had found a leak requiring repair.
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Putin: why am I leaking gas to Germany?
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Hey Atticus,
I am glad you didn't cancel your subscription to RT and continue to soak up their propaganda.
You obviously didn't read the FA paper by Hill and Stent because the very first paragraph completely disses any putative April "peace" deal:
"Vladimir Putin is determined to shape the future to look like his version of the past. Russia's president invaded Ukraine not because he felt threatened by NATO expansion or by Western provocations. He ordered his 'special military operation' because he believes that it is Russia's divine right to rule Ukraine, to wipe out the country's national identity and to integrate its people in Greater Russia"
But, of course, you thought the Taliban were going to abide by the Doha Joint Declaration. Lol.
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"But, of course, you thought the Taliban were going to abide by the Doha Joint Declaration."
Hey Squat...
The previous administration had the Taliban in check and had a workable plan that would have seen safe exit for Americans and allies while leaving a contingent in place to hold Bagram AFB.
Its Joe that foolishly thought the Taliban would sit in place and not violate pre conditions.
Was the big bad Orange guy really supposed to look ahead and plan for a complete fucking moron being in his place who pulled the military out BEFORE the Americans and also surrendered Bagram?...
WTF!
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Some administration officials have said that they want the war in Ukraine to drag out, which should hopefully weaken Russia- at the expense of Ukrainian lives, not U.S. lives. . At the same time, we are sending a shit-load of weaponry to Ukraine. As usual, the Military Industrial Complex comes out the winner! We might be headed for a recession but the MIC stocks will do quite well.
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@Jackrabbitt33
The definition of a "fanatic": Someone who won't change their mind - and won't change the subject!
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The past administration is GONE! And it appears like they may really be gone if the classified files debacle gains more momentum. Why don't we spend our time and energy on debating what the CURRENT ADMINISTRATION can, or should do to address the problems of America. Even criticism is warranted as long as it stays on topic. Trump is gone - get over it!
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"And it appears like they may really be gone if the classified files debacle gains more momentum."
I got no dog in this hunt but here's the latest, lol.
For you conspiracy fans
The Master was appointed today to pore thru the docs and determine where they go
DJT started his suit in March against HRC for tainting the election/administration with the made up Russian Collusion bullshit
All the Crossfire Hurricane info was in those boxes that were taken by the FBI
So, now the FBI has copied all that info, whatever they may not have already had
And, will know the strategy, if there is such a thing, that DJT will employ in his Federal suit.
Not saying I believe any of this shit, just a different perspective on this whole clusterfuck
As I said before, legally...........all this stuff belongs to the Feds, not Trump
The PRA enacted in 1978 governs all official documents related to a Presidential term.
It's been amended and changed by Executive Order on a number of occasions.
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"Why don't we spend our time and energy on debating what the CURRENT ADMINISTRATION can, or should do to address the problems of America. Even criticism is warranted as long as it stays on topic. "
I'm more than happy not dwelling on the previous administration. More often than not it's someone on the left that brings up Trump.
But then you want to talk about the problems for Americans. That is a topic with a long list of self inflicted issues created by this current administration. All caused by undoing working policies from the last administration.
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@jackrabbitt
That is what I am talking about. If you think the current administration is full of buffoons then that is absolutely fair game. Well presented criticism can actually effect change. It is when things go off track, or off target, that people want to diminish or chastise the author. If enough people can present well thought out and intelligent criticism of the immigration problem, then someone might actually listen. But as soon as that criticisms become toxic with name calling and wild ass assertions, then only the camp followers will find any value in it.
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Of course there wasn’t going to be a deal.
How’s the Big Guy going to get his 10%?
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@dtf2022
I've been on blog topic presenting a new wrinkle related to Russia just shutting down natural gas flow to Western Europe.
Quat brought up Afghanistan which is just one of this administration's dismal failures. I didnt bring it up.
If you want to discuss the dismal failure with the southern border go start a blog.
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thought the thread was about america/UK fucking up a DEAL that would stop the fighting...letting russia have the areas they want...UKR good with that? being landlocked?
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I doubt it gave russia everything they wanted, but IF there was a tentative deal on the table apparently ukraine was okay with whatever the deal entailed.
It's kind of a moot point cause as the guy says we won't actually hear about it for 25 years, if it comes out at all.
The U.S. has done a lot of crap over the years and if the powers that be actually think that this will weaken russia I can see them wanting to continue the war no matter how many are killed. After all it's a casualty - less war as far as the U.S. is concerned.
It's a bs policy cause it usually never works but dems and repubs both have shown they don't learn from history.
Atticus Finch
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for you to believe ANY of that...you must believe some of the things russia is doing and their reasoning
i think it started off with them trying to liberate these cities by the water region from the nazis
now i actually talked to a couple living in the AREA...they say that is TRUE...russian speaking people are oppressed in the area, but they live and thrived in the area...albeit as a couple in PORN 
OK...so maybe we TRY and believe some of it??
THEN russia levels the cities it says it wants to liberate...seems like they didn't give a fuck
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True or not, Biden has been wrong on pretty much every single foreign policy question for decades.
Better that brain dead biden stay in the basement so he dosent fuck things up more.
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they have actually been pretty good rolling out the different weapons at various times
they might of had a Lil recollection of what happened in Afghanistan...giving them weapons that pretty much got into the enemy's hands
javelins and stingers were pretty scary, but they did the job
later rolled out some big artillery from ALL the different countries
then the game-changing himars rocket system...couldn't really give this in the beginning, NOT knowing if russia was going to walk up and take em...also that fine line of escalation they were trying to thread...they could only have the short-distance rocket VS longer one? though, looks like they have the longer-range rockets from a couple of HITS we have seen
Ukrainian soldiers are going to be employed for as long as they want when this is over...for great money
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'for you to believe ANY of that...you must believe some of the things russia is doing and their reasoning'
Believe any of what? That the u.s. has interfered with other countries and their politics for it's own gain?
I do believe that. After world war 2 the u.s. believed and still does that it's the one that controls the straw that stirs the drink so I have no illusions that they haven't planned coups, assassinations and over throws and propping up puppet governments.
Did it in Iran with the shah why would things have changed?
As far as what russia wants, I imagine there are quite a few in power that want what putin wants - another ussr and all that goes with it.
Putin was in the kgb before the fall after all, although not exactly a very good agent, and has always said that the fall of the ussr was the greatest tragedy in russian history.
Yeltsin made a big mistake naming him as his successor. But then yeltsin didn't share Gorbachev's view of the world - he was more of a 'hard liner'.
Atticus Finch
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kinda sounds like you would have liked the US to just stay out of this and let UKR fend for themselves...let, whatever happens, happen.
does that include the other countries that were helping or just the US?
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You do realize that your Atticus Finch sign off is missing an underline, right?
It makes me doubt everything you post
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you B getting too drunk on the TULSI juice...might need to pepper in a Lil PV every once in a while
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all these decisions are not simple shit in a vacuum
what do you think some of the ramifications might be letting russia ROLL ukraine
a few should POP up in about 1 second
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I'm thinking the Administration should have given Russia a stronger signal that we would have supported Ukraine unconditionally before Hostilities began.... Idunno start those arm shipments before conflict as opposed to afterwards..... might have been the right call.
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What we should have done to prevent this war was to put NATO troops into the Ukraine way before this thing began. Then the onus would have been on Putin, not the West, to stay clear of a NATO/Russia showdown. And Putin’s only pretending to be crazy like a fox. He wouldn’t have invaded. He would have been pissed though.
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