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How 1,500 Nuclear-Powered Water Desalination Plants Could Save The World.
Sep 5 2022 05:42PM more by lamar
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Several countries have implemented nuclear desalination, including India, Japan and Kazakhstan. The latter operated a 750-megawatt thermal power plant for over 25 years. This plant not only generated desalinated water but also produced heat and electricity.

How 1,500 Nuclear-Powered Water Desalination Plants Could Save The World From Desertification.
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GoBallsDeep
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Sep 5 2022 09:17PM     link to this

Shhhhhh, the California Coastal Commission might hear you.

Those fucking cunts said they're ok with desal
Just not this one, lol

Somebody should turn off the water to their homes.

“The project has undergone 20 years of environmental planning. It’s certainly the most extensively studied desal facility in the state, if not the world, and it has been approved by multiple agencies including the State Lands Commission, including the Regional Water Quality Control Board,” Moore said".
wunanddun
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Sep 5 2022 09:24PM     link to this

The problem with all these California commissions is they never have to come up with a solution but they can put the brakes on anything needed for the public.

They can approve the most hare brained of ideas that no one wanted but will kill anything no matter how desperately needed.
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Sep 5 2022 10:19PM     link to this

We’re going to get salinization plants here. If well-planned, it’s a no-brainer. Those bozos are just delaying things, which will translate into a continuation of our water shortage problems.
RicoSuave21
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Sep 6 2022 12:34AM     link to this

The Caiforniastan commies in Sacramento putting a solution in place to a real problem which affects everyone in the state? I’ll believe it when I see it. We have to promote free transitions to everyone first. Provide free abortions on demand first. Ban plastic straws first. Ban travel to red states first. Ban gas-powered cars and lawn mowers before having a grid that will support electric vehicles. You know. Real problems that our betters insist we should care about.

Oh, and defund the police. Because …. Rrrrrracism. In California.
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Sep 6 2022 07:57AM     link to this

Great idea... Nuclear fuel giving us water, electricity?... 👍🇺🇸

This would save the world from the climate extremists blocking roads and bridges.

Then we have the problem of the people in charge of doing things in Sacramento... With the bullet train and getting rid of plastic straws on the list of "accomplishments" I have little hope unless the effort is privatized and we keep CA bureaucracy mostly out of the way.



dtf2022
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Sep 6 2022 08:06AM     link to this

Instead of complaining about it on HX, why don't we all send an email to Newsom suggesting they put a hold on the Bullet Train and divert those funds to Nuke/Desalination to fix a more urgent problem in CA instead of getting people from Sacramento to Disneyland faster!
SeymourButz
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Sep 6 2022 08:56AM     link to this

The real problem is Orange County residents.
You Orange County pussies are never satisfied. You fucks are the biggest crybitches in the whole USA. Always crying about something and everything.
Not to mention the OC has the biggest biggot population in California.
SeymourButz
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Sep 6 2022 09:01AM     link to this

Not at all. Only stating the obvious.
magnumta12000
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Sep 6 2022 10:13AM     link to this

Please don't charge your phones, laptops, and cars during this heatwave
Tatiana36dd
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Sep 6 2022 11:20AM     link to this

Solar panel
GoBallsDeep
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Sep 6 2022 11:48AM     link to this

"Instead of complaining about it on HX, why don't we all send an email to Newsom suggesting they put a hold on the Bullet Train and divert those funds to Nuke/Desalination to fix a more urgent problem in CA instead of getting people from Sacramento to Disneyland faster!"

Doesn't every post on this site get forwarded to Newsome?
If not, why the fuck not?

Anyhoo dipshit, OP wasn't com-plaining.......just man-splaining, you trans types have no chance of grokking.

SeymourButz
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Sep 6 2022 01:31PM     link to this

Is the Bullet Train still a thing?
That POS Mr. Burns I mean Jerry Brown and his high quality smoke.
lapierre
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Sep 6 2022 02:48PM     link to this

i read a little deeper.

there is now only one operational nuclear power plant left in California.
even though it has run without any problems since the 80s officials want to shut it down due its

the twin 1100 MWe reactors produce about 18,000 GW·h of electricity annually (8.6% of total California generation and 23% of carbon-free generation), supplying the electrical needs of more than 3 million people.[5] The plant produces electricity for about 6 cents per kWh, less than the average cost of 10.1 cents per kWh that PG&E paid for electricity from other suppliers in 2014.[6]


In 2016, PG&E announced that it plans to close the two Diablo Canyon reactors in 2024 and 2025, stating that because California's energy regulations give renewables priority over nuclear, the plant would likely only run half-time, making it uneconomical.[3] (Nuclear plants are used for base load in order to spread their large fixed costs over as many kWh of generation as possible.)[3] In 2020, experts at the California Independent System Operator (CAISO) warned that when the plant closes the state will reach a "critical inflection point", which will create a significant challenge to ensure reliability of the grid without resorting to more fossil fuel usage, and could jeopardize California's greenhouse gas reduction targets.[8][9][10] In 2021 the California Energy Commission and CAISO warned that the state may have summer blackouts in future years as a result of Diablo's closure coinciding with the shutdown of four natural gas plants of 3.7GW total capacity, and the inability to rely on imported electricity during West-wide heat waves due to reduced hydroelectric capacity (from the decades-long drought) and the closure of coal plants.[11] A 2021 report from researchers at MIT and Stanford states that keeping Diablo Canyon running until 2035 would reduce the state's carbon emissions from electricity generation by 11% every year, save the state a cumulative $2.6 billion (rising to $21 billion if kept open until 2045), and improve the reliability of the grid.[12][13][14][15] Full decommissioning of the plant is estimated to take decades and cost nearly $4 billion.[16]

It seems like closing the plant would be a really bad move, hopefully we can get the politicians to understand this position.

as to desalination plants - there is one in Carlsbad, though not powered by nuclear power.
I heard Catalina also has a small desalination plant.

NickSgv
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Sep 6 2022 03:26PM     link to this

Diablo Canyon just got a life extension.

Lots of neat developments going on in desalination. Solar, graphine membranes, forward osmosis and others. Still not cheap but getting cheaper on the back of the development sponsored by the mega plants going into Saudi and Neom mega city.



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https://abc7.com/diablo-canyon-nuclear-power-plant-newsom/12193933/
https://news.mit.edu/2022/solar-desalination-system-inexpensive-0214
lapierre
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Sep 6 2022 04:58PM     link to this

for desalination, the concept of salt removal by ION charging/polarization also seems like it could have a future.

https://news.mit.edu/2022/portable-desalination-drinking-water-0428

And the process does not take a lot of power.

surprised someone isnt taking this to scale...


technology eventually overcome our problems.
hyder
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Sep 6 2022 06:24PM     link to this

You guys are fucking tools. The HB desal plant needed better engineering than it had. They made a great deal of changes to make it safe for sea animals and humans.

I worked on it. If you have no idea how it works or why we changed it. SIT DOWN AND STFU. You have no idea.

If you have opinions...be specific.
GoBallsDeep
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Sep 6 2022 09:01PM     link to this

Build them and fuck the plankton
Specific enough for you?
TaraCMT
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Sep 7 2022 08:41AM     link to this

It's a great idea. So, I'm sure that Newsom hates it.
Angler1
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Sep 7 2022 08:47AM     link to this

Idiots for putting it in HB. It should have been in San Onofre. Pumps were already there, no fucking people either.
yellowB2
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Sep 7 2022 09:45AM     link to this

@BALLS DEEP

Just not "this one" because their friends, cronies, buddies, and cohorts are not getting contracts to build it, run it, and the CC is not getting their standard kickbacks. Letting that desal plant be built would establish a precedent that the CC does NOT want set.

lamar
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Dec 3 2022 09:17AM     link to this



Atticus_Finch
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Dec 3 2022 12:34PM     link to this

It's an IDIOTIC idea. The oceans AREN'T bottomless and they DON'T have unlimited water.

Water, like oil, is a finite resource.

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Dec 3 2022 05:40PM     link to this

How do you kill water?

I tried to burn it, it escaped as steam.
I tried to freeze it and it became hard as ice.
I tried to drink it and it fled thorough my peepee.
Atticus_Finch
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Dec 4 2022 09:42AM     link to this

^ True BUT ... there are many chemicals that are fully soluble in water.

Which is what we're seeing in every fresh water resource in the U.S. Pharmaceutical waste can't be removed via traditional methods and can be found in most fresh water lakes, rivers & streams along with so many other pollutants.
In a survey done in the 90's on the nations fresh water resources, lakes rivers streams reservoirs even ground water etc., not one was found to be pollutant free.

If those pollutants are affecting wildlife, which they are, they are also altering the people that are using/drinking it.

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lamar
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Dec 4 2022 08:18PM     link to this

What do you think about the video?
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Dec 5 2022 10:39AM     link to this

I just love these "If" stories. Got any more?
lamar
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Dec 5 2022 02:37PM     link to this

California's wettest winters will dump an estimated 18 trillion gallons of rain. But much of it is simply going down the drain.

In what has become a source of much concern in a state prone to droughts and water shortages, the vast majority of rainwater in urban areas flows into storm drains and is eventually lost to the Pacific Ocean.

When you look at the Los Angeles River being between 50% and 70% full during a storm, you realize that more water is running down the river into the ocean than what Los Angeles would use in close to a year, said Mark Gold, associate vice chancellor for environment and sustainability at UCLA. What a waste of water supply.





lamar
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Dec 5 2022 02:54PM     link to this

Mark Gold - Institute of the Environment and Sustainability at UCLA

Mark Gold, D.Env.
Director; Deputy Secretary

Ocean Protection Council at the California Natural Resources Agency; Oceans and Coastal Policy

300 La Kretz Hall
Los Angeles, CA 90095

Mark was recently appointed by Governor Newsom as Deputy Secretary for Oceans and Coastal Policy as well as Director of the Ocean Protection Council at the California Natural Resources Agency.
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