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Sep 22 2022 06:14PM more by wunanddun
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Please shut the fuck up on any issue regarding immigration or political asylum.

This especilly applies to sherkhan, mad4boobs, hey1, ma1 and that really silly woman that went on a racist rant the other day.
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rakuen.now
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Sep 22 2022 06:24PM     link to this

Condemn what actions? Progressives would have guided them to shore safely then determined whether they satisfied conditions for political asylum. Unfortunately, Biden, who's a CENTRIST, have mostly kept Trump's border policies. Trumpists would have sent those lazy, no good criminals back to where they came from, maybe gunned them down for good measure to demonstrate our 2A freedoms in the greatest country of the world. So are you condemning the migrants or the coast guards?
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Sep 22 2022 06:29PM     link to this

I condemn Alex Jones. And his followers.
Slap him with a 750 million dollar defamation judgement.
wunanddun
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Sep 22 2022 06:38PM     link to this

Rakuen..Rakuten... isn't our CIC a progressive? Why is he returning them to the hell they are trying to escape? Must be nice having situational values like you do.
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Sep 22 2022 06:41PM     link to this

BTW I'm not condemning anyone just allowing you to display what constitutes valid asylum seekers from obviously these invalid asylum seekers. So glad you are here to enlighten me.
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Sep 22 2022 07:48PM     link to this

Biden's a centrist? LOL. Uhm, ok. But whomever is pulling his strings isn't. Open borders, forgiving student debt, supporting unrestricted abortion, demonizing the fossil fuel industry, demonizing Republicans, supporting wokism... these are policies of a centrist?

And what's stopping progressives from aiding people to flee Cuba? I've only heard them praise the Cuban government. It seems contradictory for them to help people leave, no?
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Sep 22 2022 07:51PM     link to this

Fucking Qanoners. Hope you all rot in hell!
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Sep 22 2022 07:55PM     link to this

^ God Bless you, brother.
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Sep 22 2022 07:58PM     link to this

Hi Raper1.
wunanddun
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Sep 22 2022 08:02PM     link to this

Reaper .. I've never thought much of you because your posts rarely rise to the level of actual speach...

Rico on the other hand welllll his comments are somewhere along the lines of a million monkeys typing and never constructing so much a word.

BTW you seem to know more about QAnon than I do cus you actually spoke of it. I don't read anything on the subject pro or con cus I'm pretty sure it's all reaper speak.... oops sorry I mean bullshit
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Sep 22 2022 08:05PM     link to this

Raper1 is a dumshit.
Correct the spelling dumshit.
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Sep 22 2022 08:23PM     link to this

You must have me confused with someone else.
wunanddun
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Sep 22 2022 08:53PM     link to this

I have lashed out wildly and taken a friendly down

. Sorry about that Rico.
wunanddun
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Sep 22 2022 08:54PM     link to this

Comments about reaper of course still stand.
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Sep 22 2022 08:58PM     link to this

If you read my comments, you'd know that Biden is a centrist, not a progressive, and his border policy is a continuation of Trump's. Open borders? Gtfo that Koolaid. No one in the Democratic party ever said that, not even the progressives. But chances are you're so far gone that you'd rather vote someone that's trying to steal our nuclear secrets.

My politics aren't situational, Biden's is. We have a 2 party system unfortunately. I can't pick and choose which policy I personally want for everything. But I will choose the non-criminal every time.
wunanddun
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Sep 22 2022 08:59PM     link to this

I blame my irresponsible posting on this new military style cell phone that I got though a straw purchase. I was looking for ghost phone but they were out of them guess I'll have to wait til I drive out of state and get one then bring it back.
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Sep 22 2022 09:03PM     link to this

Bless you Rakuen... cus enriching your family through military contracts and the like is perfectly legit ... I get it. Situational ethics at its best. We knew Biden has had a hand in doing just what I said for decades... but yeah you are the righteous one here.
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Sep 22 2022 09:11PM     link to this

I dont care what you say .... Biden is a Progressive through his actions. He has basically dismantled Trumps immigration policies on day one. Literally everything.

Are you that stupid?

How do people get away with playing so ignorant?...


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Sep 22 2022 09:14PM     link to this

BTW ... just because you pronounce a politician something doesn't make them what you define them to be. Biden at one time extolled centrist policies... before he was outtes as a plagiarism I actually was supportive of his first run for President. After he stepped down I think he figured he had gone as far as he could go and just became whatever the money wanted him to be. To call him anything now is unfair because he is obviously not capable of making any decision... my father who recently passed was pretty much in the same state Biden is in right now... functional for short periods of time but totally not responsible.

But hey that's OK people abuse the elderly all the time why should the President be any different.
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Sep 22 2022 10:20PM     link to this

No one in the Democratic party ever said that, not even the progressives.

I.

Dyos.

ME.

OH.

Are you trolling? You must be trolling. If none of the Dem politicians said it, then it can't be their policy? Is that what you're claiming? CBP has been claiming nearly every week for the past two years that they are overrun, Last week, in the same conversation, VP Harris said both that the border is secure AND that we have a lot of work to do. How can it be both? What additional work is there to do if we've had the same rate of migration now as under Trump? EVERY news outlet refers to the "crisis at the border". Did that just arise magically? Or did it come about because everyone knows that the border laws aren't being enforced? Trump wanted to build a wall. Are you trying to claim that Biden does, too?

There is a quote from one of the migrants who was sent to D.C. He was asked by a reporter point blank if the border was open. He basically responded, in English, "I'm here, aren't I? It's open".

You gaslighting troll.
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Sep 22 2022 10:38PM     link to this

This is from the AP. I hope that's not too far-right of a source for you, since you claim that Biden is a centrist. The article states that Biden ran his campaign on halting border wall construction, and that he followed through with that after taking office. The article also states that some new construction is going to start near Yuma, but only because an Arizona Democrat up for re-election begged Biden to close some gaps in the wall to help the Dem save his job.

https://apnews.com/article/mexico-arizona-colorado-river-dams-yuma-705ac42dca8af0288514e9dd723d392c

You gaslighting troll.
rakuen.now
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Sep 23 2022 12:11AM     link to this

Nah, you're completely oblivious to any facts having drunk fascist Koolaid for a decade of your wasted life. The border wall was accepted by all experts to be a useless waste of money in terms of stopping illegal immigration -- it's an ecological nightmare, it requires clearing all private property owners on the border with eminent domain, and plus immigrants will just dig underneath it or go around it. Democrats have IN THE YEARS THAT TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT offered to secure the border with a combination of drones and patrols that are proven to be far more successful than a dumbass wall, but the cavedwelling monkeys in the Republican party didn't want good ideas to be attributed to Democrats.

Nobody in the Democratic party wants open borders. Sanctuary cities is a policy addressing illegal immigrants once they're here. It doesn't address illegal immigration before they get here.

What else? Miss me with that 12 year old shit for real.
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Sep 23 2022 12:21AM     link to this

RicoBRUTO

The border is as secure as it was under Trump. Biden pretty much kept Trump's border policies in place besides the wall. The wall is an expensive useless symbol that Trump and Bannon used to grift you into giving him donations. Why doesn't Biden do something about it? Could it be that any bill addressing holistic reform to immigration has been blocked by the DINO (Democrats in name only) Manchin and Sinema? Could it be that Biden is a CENTRIST?

Only a propagandist thinks Biden is anything else. He spent his whole career shitting on minorities with his tough on crime laws along with Trump lawyer/New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, and the ONLY REASON he was vice president on Obama's ticket was because people saw Obama as black and unproven, so the party came up with an old white centrist to calm their nerves. If you don't think Biden is a centrist, then you don't know shit about politics.
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Sep 23 2022 12:26AM     link to this

"Bless you Rakuen... cus enriching your family through military contracts and the like is perfectly legit ... I get it. Situational ethics at its best."

Yeah okay, so if some politician that happens to be the lesser of two evils by a large margin happens to make some money on the side like every politician does, I have situational politics -- but not you? Your double standards are hilarious!! Who are you for? Trump? The man who called for crowds to hang Mike Pence and kill Pelosi? The man who stole nuclear secrets and hid them in his private bunker? The man who coordinated with white supremacists to hijack Ukraine's democratic election? That guy?

Yeah I'll choose Biden over Trump any day of the week. Biden isn't perfect either, but at least he didn't sell out America.

If that's all you got, the is a... one and done.
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Sep 23 2022 12:29AM     link to this

"I dont care what you say .... Biden is a Progressive through his actions. He has basically dismantled Trumps immigration policies on day one. Literally everything."

Name ONE policy that he dismantled.
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Sep 23 2022 12:44AM     link to this

1) got rid of remain in Mexico.

2) Reinstated catch & release policy for migrants.

3) Did not finish building the wall.
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Sep 23 2022 12:58AM     link to this

In the past, they would have been considered political refugees. Now they are not.

I think the US should have given them the opportunity to apply for political asylum.

I'm watching the new Ken Burns PBS special on the US and the Holocaust. Interesting stuff. Of course they mention the German liner St. Louis carrying Jewish refugees from Nazi Germany. I wish they too had been granted political asylum here. No one in the Western Hemisphere did that, and they had to go back to Europe where roughly 25% of them were later murdered in the Holocaust.
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Sep 23 2022 01:09AM     link to this

These people are claiming a status to get political sanctuary from their home country by traveling though multiple countries where they could claim political asylum. They are the very anti-thesis of political refugee. They are nit claiming any status in the countries they are traveling through. At the time they are traveling through other countries they are in safe havens... the political refugee claim is utter bullshit.
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Sep 23 2022 01:11AM     link to this

"Biden isn't perfect either, but at least he didn't sell out America."

There is literally proof that he has done exactly that... for nothing more than millions of dollars.
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Sep 23 2022 01:31AM     link to this

1. This group of Cubans were on a Cuban raft in US waters. They weren't country hopping as you claim.

2. As a refugee, you have the right to choose where you want to go. Jewish political refugees from Germany and other areas in Eastern Europe often had the US as their first choice. Sometimes they couldn't get into the US right away, so they'd end up somewhere in Latin America like (ironically) Cuba and wait until they were able to emigrate to the US. If they were lucky, they'd make it. Perfectly fine.
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Sep 23 2022 01:48AM     link to this

“Name ONE policy that he has dismantled”

Uhm, you just did. Thank you.

I don’t remember Trump flying migrants across the country. I don’t remember reporters asking the Trump WH about whether the border is open.

AOC just stated that we can accommodate everyone. How much more blatant does it need to be?

And get out of here with what Biden did before he was president. I clearly stated that he’s a puppet as the current president.

Getting blocked by conservative Democrats makes one a Centrist??? Is that what you call logic? Sinema and Manchin block Biden’s policies because they’re too extreme! It’s those two who are the centrists, Einstein.

And BTW, it’s interesting how your diction has changed. You gaslighting troll.
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Sep 23 2022 02:22AM     link to this

I guess you can claim the situation with Jews was different, because they went through legal immigration channels (visas) to eventually get to where they wanted to go, and these Cubans are using a refugee/asylum status; however, there's no rule that says the refugee must absolutely stay in the very first country they enter in which they are no longer under threat. That's sort of ridiculous. They should have the right to go where they want to go, and that country can accept or deny them asylum.
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Sep 23 2022 02:47AM     link to this

^ my previous comment about asylum seekers was about people going through Mexico then claiming asylum. Not the Cuban refugees.
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Sep 23 2022 02:52AM     link to this

But anyway. No there is no rule that says that... just common sense and with that logic anyone should be able to leave whatever country and claim political asylum anywhere ... and that just defies common sense.
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Sep 23 2022 03:22AM     link to this

^In other words, your opinion.
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Sep 23 2022 05:31AM     link to this

We pretty much have an open border now under Biden. Texas towns are overwhelmed. It's not political, it's practical. Texans are not bad people, they just suffer the most
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Sep 23 2022 06:50AM     link to this

Correct NR it is my long held opinion that you lack common sense.
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Sep 23 2022 07:18AM     link to this

And what is Ted Cruz going to do about it. It's his state. Oh wait! Ted and his family are in Europe or some vacation spot.

Why doesn't Abbot n Costello employ the National Gaurd to patrol the border?
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Sep 23 2022 10:15AM     link to this

“ Please shut the fuck up on any issue regarding immigration or political asylum.

This especilly applies to sherkhan, mad4boobs, hey1, ma1 and that really silly woman that went on a racist rant the other day.”

@wunanddun


Does this not remind you of conservatives banning books because they don’t like the message?

Simpleminded conservatives are the real threat in this country and around the world. What do you think about the protests in Iran? People are rising up against conservative authoritarianism, which should worry the radical right in this country.

November is looking a lot better for Dems now. And that will likely result in more domestic terrorism from simpleminded conservatives.

And I haven’t even starting talking about immigration and asylum seekers.



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Sep 23 2022 10:33AM     link to this

Have you seen the books in question?

These are concerned parents who object to the material being exposed to young ones in school. The material is flat obscene and needs to be removed from the education system.

I dont know how you manage to compare what's happening in Iran with conservatives in America.

If anything conservatives are on the side of the women who protest in this case.

Conservatives have no allegiance of any kind with the leadership in Iran and the Iranians hate in the deeply anyone of Christian faith so your off target with your analogy.



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Sep 23 2022 12:34PM     link to this

@rabbit


Just to educate you a bit, a woman was killed in Iran because the morality police felt that he wasn't wearing the hijab properly and was wearing overly tight pants.


In this country, women her their rights to choose what to do with their bodies taken away from them by the morality police, through the conservative leaning Supreme Court, but it was imposed by another religion.


This is very similar.





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Sep 23 2022 01:07PM     link to this

I know the issue in Iran.

How you wear a hijab should not be compared in any way to someone's perceived "right" to terminate life.

You are a moron for drawing a parallel.

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Sep 23 2022 01:09PM     link to this

And before you even go there... abortion IS NOT and NEVER WAS a Constitutional right
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Sep 23 2022 01:30PM     link to this

Crazy conservatives/Christians are also trying to outlaw contraception. Talk yourself out of that one, you fucking clown.

The problem is that idiots are given a forum in these blogs.






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Sep 23 2022 01:38PM     link to this

Simpleminded conservatives are the real threat in this country and around the world

We may be simpleminded, but we actually have MINDS and can logically think for ourselves.

Anyone standing up supporting the Democratic agenda now has to be totally clueless or independently wealthy.

This country is spiraling down into a terrible recession that was self-inflicted.

Blue states locked down and didn't do any better with Covid than most Red states, but they tanked their own economies and created the impetus to give trillions in so called 'aid' for Covid.

Sent a clear message on day one that the fossil fuel industry was now a pariah, shut down pipelines and leases, blocked additional drilling on Federal land and moved us from near energy independence to total dependence upon the Saudi's, Iran, and depleting our strategic oil reserves.

This drove the price of diesel through the roof, forcing transportation costs upward, which added to the price of virtually everything we use.

Then continued to double down on another trillion in give aways, further escalating the need for higher interest rates by the Fed.

We now have the lowest home purchases, highest home mortgage rates, highest inflation and highest cost of gasoline in decades.
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Sep 23 2022 01:41PM     link to this

Crazy conservatives/Christians are also trying to outlaw contraception

Love how the left latches on to a handful of people on the right and portray that as the message of the entire Republican party. Contraception is NOT going away, nor is abortion. Besides, it isn't a constitutional right and is under the jurisdiction of the individual states. If there are enough people in a given state to ban it, so be it. But that will only be an extremely small number of states. So abortion is NOT going away but it sure sounds great to shout that Republicans are taking away contraception.
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Sep 23 2022 01:54PM     link to this

No wunanddun, you shut the fuck up.

I personally know the high and lows of the us immigration system, and all the pain it causes.

And how stunts like Abbott and DeSantis make life worse for everyone.
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Sep 23 2022 01:56PM     link to this

But the left also is great about labeling all Republicans as racist, sexist, misogynist, wanting to have dirty water, dirty air and rich. Of course, they can never prove any of what they say, but it sure sounds great. The race card gets played every chance they get.

It is racist to want secure borders. But what about the people of Martha's Vineyard who booted out the immigrants that showed up in their town?
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Sep 23 2022 01:58PM     link to this

And how stunts like Abbott and DeSantis make life worse for everyone.

Not a stunt. Merely helping to spread out the financial burden of housing, clothing, feeding, educating and supporting illegal immigrants. Why should border states bear that burden?
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Sep 23 2022 02:00PM     link to this

For all the supporters of abortion....

Answer one question....when is it a viable life that should be protected? Abort right at birth? 15 weeks. Far too many are saying anytime during the process, even when the science clearly says it is a human being.
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Sep 23 2022 02:01PM     link to this

Or kill the life AFTER birth.....is that too far for you?
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