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Oct 13 2022 06:42PM more by wunanddun
Tags: San Diego , Current Events (All tags)

Just putting it out there to ruminate on.


Wondering just how trying to influence a country by sanction unless they perform a domestic (to them) that will assist you politically is going to be thought of by the usual suspects? Shouldn't we have hearings? Shouldn't the press try the offender and all those in their circle?

Not advocating for that mind you .... just wondering. 🤔
      
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Oct 13 2022 08:00PM     link to this

Totally agree... last time he used $1B and got a prosecutor fired who was lurking too close. He's totally fallen from his game.









wunanddun
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Oct 13 2022 08:11PM     link to this

It's almost as if standards of behavior are not applied equally ... depending upon one's political leanings.... I just can't imagine that would be the case ... but it surrrre seems like it.
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Oct 13 2022 09:00PM     link to this

What I miss?
Did MA take a big quid up his ass for some quo?
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Oct 13 2022 09:12PM     link to this

More like someone from one side feels the need to argue over and over and over and over again that the exact same thing essentially happens on both sides, thinking they are making the other side look like hypocrites or like clueless idiots, but instead this tactic is a strawman because there usually are important distinctions between the two sides.
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Oct 13 2022 09:14PM     link to this

Enlighten me
wunanddun
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Oct 13 2022 09:27PM     link to this

Fucking 😆... ohhh NR you poor ignorant slut!!shut!!!

Blinded by your own need to project standards onto others and never ...ever ... hold yourself or those like you to your own standard.

My standard is this the President can ask anything he wants and put conditions on things ... Im not calling for Biden to be impeached ... just curious as to why you and the other wingnuts aren't.

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Oct 13 2022 09:29PM     link to this

Also NR I'm playing political oneupmanship.... pretty well too I think.
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Oct 13 2022 09:33PM     link to this

Here ya go GBD.... its a relatively timid story but if a President of a different party did it it would be .... "Worse than Watergate!!!" That actually shoulda been the title of this thread.
Attached Links
More worse than Watergate!!
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Oct 13 2022 10:39PM     link to this

There you go again…
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Oct 13 2022 10:41PM     link to this

Democrats/liberals = deadbeats
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Oct 13 2022 11:34PM     link to this

Qui suis-je? Et toi?



0 conscience 0 accountability full of righteous indignance and never ever self reflective.
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Oct 14 2022 12:12AM     link to this

I thought all those Dems, especially those on HX like high energy costs.
They want us to go green, which means we are using all our green just to live.
I'm waiting for $10/gal of gas. Biden and the Dems will show us who's boss.
Awesome! This will put many of the HX ladies out of business.
No money, no honey! But blogging is free. LOL
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Oct 14 2022 12:37AM     link to this

nr, just vote for democraps, you'll never get it...
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Oct 14 2022 05:29AM     link to this

If Art Laboe was alive, I'd dedicate "Dry Your Eyes" to this bunch of whiny crybaby man bitches.
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Oct 14 2022 07:19AM     link to this

doesn't look good

saudi's kinda narked on him...that's what he gets for threatening them with his tuff language

why a month?


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Oct 14 2022 08:54AM     link to this

Who gives 2 shits about Art Laboe?

Besides Joe Biden and you that is.
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Oct 14 2022 09:30AM     link to this

LOL. That’s rich coming from someone with a giant ego that has yet to show a reason to have one.
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Oct 14 2022 09:47AM     link to this

Yeah. In your case, full of phony “self reflection.”
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Oct 14 2022 09:54AM     link to this

Is that what you are talking about?

Special Report: Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support - sources
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Oct 14 2022 10:16AM     link to this

And now the Saudi’s are the ones punking Biden and making him his bitch

Every parameter in America is dog shit under Biden, yet people still dwell on trump’s presidency LMFAO!
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Oct 14 2022 10:33AM     link to this

Every parameter in America is dog shit under Biden, yet people still dwell on trump’s presidency LMFAO!

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Let's Go Brandon!!!
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Oct 14 2022 10:35AM     link to this

The same people crying about world leaders punking Biden but mad at him for escalating the war with Russia.
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Oct 14 2022 10:36AM     link to this

These two bitches already filled out visiting forms at Leavenworth.
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Oct 14 2022 10:53AM     link to this

great article about trump talking to the Saudis

in general, you can SEE the difference in dealing with these countries

what were the two main differences in dealing with Saudis?


trump vs biden?


kinda laughable and basically nullifies any of the stupid shit you say about him being a bitch to anyone.


look at the picture








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Oct 14 2022 11:03AM     link to this

30-year Mortgage rates are averaging 7%, a 16 year high. Inflation still at 8.2%, but core inflation up to a 40 year high.

Tell me again that the economy is doing well.
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Oct 14 2022 11:04AM     link to this

And the Saudis just gave us the middle finger and cut production to keep the price per barrel high.
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Oct 14 2022 11:20AM     link to this

Actually, we got middle fingers from OPEC+ nations.
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Oct 14 2022 12:13PM     link to this

For the mentally challenged....

It's not my point that anyone should be impeached for these actions. It's my point that ones indignant of either doing what they did is merely theater on your part.
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Oct 14 2022 12:13PM     link to this

*their not your
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Oct 14 2022 01:19PM     link to this

lol the pearl clutching on this topic is so hilarious. Let not pretend our relationship with the Sauds is not purely transactional. Same from both republican and democrats. Its probably the most embarrassing US alliance in history.

They keep selling oil to the West and we help keep the monarchy in power and not let rest of the Arab world devour them.

Saudi oil is the only thing worthy in keeping a relationship with the Saudis.

Remember the 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia. We would have invaded them if they werent already selling us all that dino juice.
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Oct 14 2022 01:22PM     link to this

And the Saudis just gave us the middle finger and cut production to keep the price per barrel high.


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I repeat...oil supply is not the problem. Its US refineries. We not producing enough gas for a variety of reasons that US oil bullshits us. They shut down refineries for "repair".

And I also repeat....why you guys all of the sudden hate capitalism?
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Oct 14 2022 02:53PM     link to this

Rrod ...I'll say this ... I only see one post other than yours about the cost of oil. The topic is in no way related to the cost of oil or gas or the market.

@Nr ... If I wasn't reflective why would post this? I have stated somewhere before that these types of conversations occur... and among heads of state need to occur ... but you think it's a crime ... so let's go to trial!
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Oct 14 2022 04:14PM     link to this

^

It was a response to Jazz. Its not totally off topic honestly.
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Oct 14 2022 06:32PM     link to this

+ another bazillion on what Ego said

The Saudi's are punking Biden because he has proven time and again he is a weak & stupid little Chihuahua on the world stage.


Again... theres a reason that all the bad actors in the world are fucking around now but didnt when Trump was in office.

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Oct 14 2022 10:28PM     link to this

Leaving aside the issue of either Trump's or Biden personal problems
I would ask NR the "important distinctions" in his mind between the Ukraine vs. Saudi quid pro quo

As to Rod, he's a discredited one-note retard who blames all things energy related on big oil greed
Forget for a moment that no refinery has been permitted in this country for like 50 years and our current President has simply extended the war on "dino fuel" that Progs have been waging for 30 years. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not understand the basics of supply/demand.

So fuck that imbecile, he can post but why bother exploring his personal problems.

So, NR.....you have the floor. Both quids were done for personal political gain, please explain the dif....in your estimation?
Thx
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Oct 14 2022 10:34PM     link to this

just perfect little fact pattern examples...basically it's fish in a barrel at this point




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Oct 14 2022 10:42PM     link to this

Meanwhile, Durham continues to open wide the FBI's malfeasance and sheer ineptitude during the Danchenko trial. This criminal organization is an official embarrassment which should be permanently shuttered. They torpedoed Clinton's run (not a bad thing itself) thus allowing Trump to win. Then doubled down to hide this dubious intrusion into an election by perpetrating the fraudulent Russian collusion theme. Meanwhile, the mentally disabled Mueller carries out a 2 year investigation that he knew from the beginning would find nothing.

They've officially made J Edgar look like an amateur with his hidden pantyhose and files on anyone he remotely disliked.

The worst part of it is the fact that the very institution that gave us the Watergate investigation DOES NOT CARE ONE FUCKING BIT ABOUT GOVERNMENT FRAUD. AND ILLEGAL SKULLDUGGERY.

This is us circling the bowl...........very sad
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Oct 16 2022 02:18PM     link to this

I repeat...oil supply is not the problem. Its US refineries. We not producing enough gas for a variety of reasons that US oil bullshits us. They shut down refineries for "repair".

If the government basically told you, "we are shutting your ass down as soon as we can", what do you think they will do. A good capitalist, knowing that government overreach, policies and regulations are going to kill their industry, will do everything they can to squeeze as much revenue to help offset their investments before they are pressured to scale back.

I would have slowed production to force the price up for as long as possible.

Joe created this shit and now he gets to live with it, including begging OPEC+.

When you throw the big boulder into the lake, you better be ready to deal with all the ripples.
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Oct 16 2022 04:50PM     link to this

@ GoBalls

I refuse to engage in bad faith discussion with you which is why I don’t respond to you directly. Come up with an actual thoughtful response instead of a canned response laden with insults
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Oct 16 2022 04:56PM     link to this

@jazz

At least you admit US oil industry is gaming gas prices. Thank you.

Now the other things you bring up are totally up for discussion.

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Oct 16 2022 09:19PM     link to this

"I refuse to engage in bad faith discussion with you which is why I don’t respond to you directly. Come up with an actual thoughtful response instead of a canned response laden with insults"

Good faith discussion?


What is there to discuss?
You don't even try to understand how shit works.
Start with "fossil fuel" evil
Work backward from there, lol
You proclaim your conclusion with ZERO evidence given.

The state of CA has investigated gas prices for 40 years and come up with nothing
Just 2 years ago the US was bumper crop with oil
Now, this sad demented POS Biden has set us back all of those gains
AND, doubled down on stupid by begging Saudi and Venezuela to increase production while cutting ours....as if climate change isn't fucking global

Yes, you are STUPID, there's no other word for it.
I could say ignorant but you shouldn't be, as it seems you're able to read

Supply/demand for fuck sake
State of CA only allows THEMSELVES to gouge the consumer to the tune of almost 70 cents/gal
This is a highly regulated industry and CA was once a large producer that is cutting itself off from the lifeblood of its economy.....for what?

A miniscule rounding error of having any effect on climate change while China builds hundreds of coal fired plants......yes, fucking stupid, indeed.
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Oct 16 2022 09:28PM     link to this

And, yes I will add this.
The US and Germany have spent something like $680 billion on so-called green energy (wind and solar)

For that money, we could now be COMPLETELY self-sufficient in electricity if we'd built nuclear instead AND lowered our total carbon emissions by something like a factor of 4 over what was done with green fucking energy.

We all pay dearly, ESPECIALLY the poor and disadvantaged of every ethnicity, for your sheer stupidity and utopian pig-headedness. It is a disgrace and people of your ilk should be jailed and fined for doling out "misinformation".

It's fucking sickening the number of humans that you've been tangentially responsible for the death of.
Namaste
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Oct 16 2022 11:18PM     link to this

Then shouldn’t mind being ignored my a stupid idiot then… cause I have no problem ignoring them myself.
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Oct 16 2022 11:50PM     link to this

Your posts are hard to ignore.
Never really understood how someone could hold an opinion not supported by data or facts.
It's right out of the Trump playbook
Yeah, those fuckers stole the election!
Got any proof?
Well, doesn't matter, it happened., lol.

Every time gas prices go up, great State of CA politician (usually a Dem but sometimes a Rep) scream INVESTIGATION!!

Then nothing, I mean............. nothing, literally crickets
They got regulations and access to everything, production, sales, breakdowns, wastage, whatever.
If Ca can't find anything, what the hell evidence you got???
Asking for a fruend.....

There's definitely STATE sanctioned shenanigans going on
Markup is far too high but the state allows that so they can siphon off those funds for the war on climate change. And, let's not even get into the deets on "carbon offset" programs or CARB or CAQMD etc. etc.

Bottom line, it's political theater with the players already knowing how they rigged the game to fuck hi! The only thing you got wrong is the fuckee.......that would be the great State of Californication.
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Oct 16 2022 11:56PM     link to this

Dammit, not "hi!"
What the hell is that?
Supposed to be "fuck us!"
Sorry..
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Oct 17 2022 12:37PM     link to this

Wow, the crickets are loud out here in the weeds.

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Oct 17 2022 01:46PM     link to this

Hey maaaaan don't talk shit about CARB maaaaan..they protect us from having to buy the same exact catalytic converter from another state for 1/3 the price....I love paying more for everything maaan. Get with the program GBD maaaan.
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Oct 17 2022 02:30PM     link to this

@jazz

At least you admit US oil industry is gaming gas prices. Thank you.

You call it gaming. I think it might be considered sound business practice. When the government kicks you in the balls and basically says, "Your industry is gone under our regime", I don't call whatever they do gaming. The government is the one gaming.....
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Oct 18 2022 02:09PM     link to this

“Meanwhile, Durham continues to open wide the FBI's malfeasance and sheer ineptitude during the Danchenko trial. “

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Meanwhile, Durham is 0-6. 5 acquittals and 1 dismissal of charges.

He is blowing it wide open alright . Blowing it literally
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Oct 18 2022 04:25PM     link to this

Durham is certainly not accomplish much in terms of convictions considering the evidence and witness testimony he has gathered.

The Sussman trial somebody points the finger directly at Hillary as giving the OK to run with Steele dossier and the whole Russia hoax.

But Sussman walked thanks to a jury with a few Hillay donors.

Danchenko was just acquitted. WTF

Democrats and Deep State operatives cant be held accountable...

But you can harass Republicans to no end with hearsay and zero evidence.


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