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china relations are pretty much done
Oct 16 2022 03:14PM more by InsearchofStarfish
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Biden’s chip controls may force Chinese-Americans working in China’s semiconductor firms to choose between their citizenship or their job
BYNicholas Gordon
October 13, 2022 at 2:29 AM PDT


taiwan should be getting ready

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Oct 16 2022 04:42PM     link to this

Perfect. Why we as a nation buy from communist regime.
BULLSHIT to any reason or excuse. The USA has the capability and manpower to include resources. To hell with tree huggers.
We need to become self reliant and boycott all foreign made products. To hell with Corporations telling us how to live. To hell with Corporations telling us what to buy.
Demand better write your congressman. Stop outsourcing jobs.
Boycott, Strike, Walk Out, Demonstrate. We need more accountability.
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Oct 16 2022 09:30PM     link to this

Why not take it one step further, dont buy anything from another county if those taxes aren't going directly to your neighborhood? Dont from any other state that isnt your own, you know nothing about economics your hate for half of your countrymen blinds you brother.
GoBallsDeep
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Oct 16 2022 09:32PM     link to this

Awesome, let the bombing begin!
Start with LA, please.
Lots of racists in that area.

cgem
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Oct 16 2022 10:23PM     link to this

China is going to hit us back heavy on this AI and Semiconductor thing. If you underestimate the Chinese on innovation, the space race is a good example on how fucked we are.

There is a good chance China will ban some critical Rare Earth materials and metals. I don't know if our F-35 can continues to build if China bans some critical materials. Also most of the missiles we build won't fly without China's REM. Chips need rare earth material to function. China has over 70% of most of the critical REM on this planet and they make most of them.

Next, GM will get hit. That's a billion lost in profit per year. I would short Boeing as well. China won't be buying any time soon. I would short all auto-parts as well. I can see at least 6 major US cities go broke with this move. If GM and BA starts laying off, that's multiple closures in US plants across the nation. Washington, California, Oregon, Ohio, Michigan, Texas, Florida..etc will all get hit. That's 3 battle ground states for the next election.

I see them banning masks, cleaning products next. Next some biotech products and anti-biotics which China controls over 60% of US usage. Just tell yourself, don't get infected and don't get hurt. If another wave of Covid hits, we are truly fucked. Forget Covid, just influenza A, B will kills of tens of thousands of us if China says fuck you to us. It will take years to build these type of plants to mass produce in US and cost billions that we don't have.

China's main export to us that we depend on every day by the year in dollars:
Computers and parts and printers - over 200 billion dollars
Phones and accessories - Over 100 billion
Machines and coms - Over 100 billion
Semiconductors and parts - Over 100 billion
Auto parts -Over 20 billion
Clothing, shoes, accessories - Over 80 billion
Toys - Over 20 billion

And China found substitutes in Russia and Brazil for our agricultural products. So our farmers are fucked. Meaning our entire south and midwest is fucked.

Just these categories alone is over 600 billions usd PER YEAR. Pricing increase for ALL these products are expected to increase over 38% if they were to be made in USA. Meaning almost EVERYTHING we use in average daily life will increase by a minimal of 38% if we want all our products that we used to be made in USA instead of China. It doesn't even account for inflation.

If that happens, half of our population will go bankrupted almost immediately. And our inflation will be looking at 20% increase yearly. This is the best case scenario.

GM, McDonald, Starbucks, 3 companies alone in China profits about 10 billion usd in profit each year. That's only 3 companies. Not including KFC, Pizzahut, Nike, Microsoft, American Eagle, Cocacola, Pepsi, Redbull, 3M, Ford, NBA, Movies, Books, Games, Disney...everything.

All of the above mentioned companies and sectors ALL have net profit in China.

There are over 350 US Large Corporations (publicly traded companies) operating in China. Over 330 of them have direct sales in China.

Close to 60% of them have INCREASED their investments in China this year.

So What The Fuck do you fucking idiots that support no trade with China really want to do? Fucking kill us ALL? Haven't your portfolios shrink enough? You want them to be worth 1/10 of what you have now?

Is that what you mother fuckers want? Do you want 20% inflation? Who the fuck do you think is keeping our inflation rates RELATIVELY LOW UP TO THIS POINT? The Feds? LOL. Its China and the Chinese that are keeping our fucking inflation rate low. We printed too much money that we don't have.

If we decouple from China,
1st fucking thing they will do is delist from our market. That's at the very least 200 companies delisting. That's at least 1 trillion dollars gone. They already delisted 5 of that state enterprises this year. They are 5 of the biggest companies in China.

Nest, they will clear house on bonds, that's another trillion dollars gone.

Third, they will ban all travels and students to USA. That's at least 200 billion gone. Just based on #s, that's 2.2 trillion gone, almost immediately within the year.

Our GDP in 2022 is about 21 trillion. 2.2 is about 10% of our GDP GONE. That's a net negative of 9% per year on the GDP if this shit happens. That's not just a recession, that's a Great Depression. We will be knocked back 100 years economically speaking.

Not just trillions gone, they will invest with the Europe, South Korea and Japan and rest of Asia that hates us for price gouging them on energy prices right now. Meaning ALL of our competitors will have a leg up against our companies. Decreasing our market share and competitiveness on EVERYTHING.

Within 10 years of this, we will look like a hybrid of UK and Brazil. A piece of shit 2nd rate western nation that no one gives a damn. Canada will be laughing at our face.

You think we can continue to station 800 oversea bases and maintain us as super power militarily without MONEY? You are fucking dreaming.

We only have about 100 million adequately aged and healthy working force. The fuck you think we can do this all by ourselves.

Do you mother fuckers think before you opine?
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Oct 16 2022 11:15PM     link to this

Uh huh, you think China just completely replaces our market without disruptions to their own economy and the world? It appears you haven't actually thought thru your own doomsday scenario.
We are the engine that pulls the train.
Not saying it wouldn't be worldwide destruction of the liberal democratic economy cause it might be But Chinaese mercantilism has its limits.

Besides which China is imploding population wise, is ruled by one guy and has serious issues themselves. Something like 25% or more of the 18 - 25 year old group is unemployed and they have like 30 million more men than women in the child bearing age range AND Xi is single handedly destroying entrepreneurs everywhere. He keeps pushing, he might find himself in a counter-revolution.

In other words, it's no bed of roses, they got lots of problems
Which is what makes them so dangerous.
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Oct 16 2022 11:23PM     link to this

As a matter of fact, Japan, Australia, the US and other countries are sick and tired of Chinese bullshit sabre rattling, and are putting together a posse to keep them in check. Xi is mixing the worst parts of Marxist-Leninism with national aggression. This will not go well if allowed to fester.

Be careful not to allow your natural Chinese patriotism to blind you to some important realities.
SeymourButz
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Oct 16 2022 11:23PM     link to this

That's exactly my point. We buy everything from China. Precious metals. Don't believe it. China isn't the only place to find such metals. Your government wants you to believe this. BTW? Do you even know who your government is? Yup you guessed it! The very same fuckers that own the Federal Reserve. Look it up the United States is not a country. It is a federal corporation. Yup, the very ones who enslave and keep you placated, but needy as well.
In order to create a business, you must create a need. We sure are a bunch of needy fuckers aren't we?
There was a time when everything was stamped MADE IN USA.
Sell out my countrymen.You fucking fool, your fucking grand and great grandparents did that half a century ago. And you talk about economics. Then I call you greedy. Because you don't need half that shit you buy. Oh, but I have to keep up with the Jones. I really need that boat. I know the aluminum comes from Beijing, but Mr. Jones has one, so I'll buy a bigger one. As the stupid thing sits on your driveway for 10 months.
Save your fucking bullshit for your sales meeting Tuesday at 10:45 And don't forget to order that PS6 your spoiled kid wants for Xmas. It has that supersonic power button last years model doesn't have. Keep buying shit from over seas. Keep sending our jobs over seas. Keep the American people in poverty. Or perhaps that is the big picture?
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Oct 16 2022 11:45PM     link to this

An Act of WAR ?

Western Montana News investigative journalist Roy McKenzie and author & investigative journalist Christopher Kortlander and author of Arrow To The Heart join Pete to discuss the recent L. A. County indictment of Konnech CEO Eugene Yu. In the coming days, the American people will realize the full implications of one the biggest national security breeches in our nations history. Evidence now reveals that China has perpetrated an act of war.
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Oct 16 2022 11:55PM     link to this

Japan and Australia are begging China to re-open dialogue with China.

You guys need to pay less attention to CNN and Foxnews.

Read what their gov't is actually doing instead of what US gov't is telling you. China's relationship with Japan is hot in economic exchange and freezing in political exchange. Which works just fine since Japan has no say on anything security related anyways. And Japan is scared shitless with China and Russia patrolling over its islands every other month.

Japan's opposition party is hating on US so hard that the current PM's rating approval has dropped to close to historic low due to the collapse of the Yen.

Australia is begging China to resume trade. Look at the Solomon Islands incident, did Australia really do anything to stop it? No, in fact, Australia lowered its iron ore and coal products and basically begged China to take shipment. Which China finally did but without any further increase in future shipments. Australia's Morrison was dumped because of his hard stance of China causing its own nation's economic peril. This new admin isn't that dumb.

Also China has Russia. They don't lack ANY raw materials and food produce these days. And they just opened railway to Central Asia so further energy crisis all dissolved. China's food and energy is at ALL TIME HIGH. And US stupidly forced China under Trump to sign a 25 year LNG deal that was 1/4 the value of today's market price.

You can all thank Trump on this.

This CHIP4 fiasco is such a farce. What's the point of an embargo if we have to grant Samsung and SK full access to China without penalty if the point was to surround China and bar China from gaining access to these chips? And half of the top talents from TSMC have been poached by China including the guy that created the 7nm chip. He's as SMIC for the past several years.

What the point of moving US talents back if most of these talents aren't US CITIZENS? They are freaking Chinese, Korean and Japanese. In fact, there are tens of thousands of Japanese scientists and scholars working in China as we speak because CHINA gave these Japanese more funding than Japan's own schools and companies.

Koreans have over 1 trillion usd invested in China's semiconductor industry and over 35% of their revenue comes from China alone. The fuck you think they will abandon China. They will drop US before they drop China economically.

And look at our Commerce Dept. The guy that's in charge of these bans is a Defense guy, not a trade and economics guy. He used to worked at the Defense Dept. So his concern isn't about our economy but security. Which is stupid because that's the Commerce Dept. He will sacrifice our GDP for fake security. China isn't going anywhere, you ban chips now, them Chinese will get their own by either innovating or stealing. Either way, they will get what they want and we just wasted TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS in trade to slow them down MAYBE a couple of years. We could've easily used that money to innovate and improve our market share and economy and science.

But no, fucking Bidumb wants to seal us off to the rest of the world so we will make shit on our own. Like we can work like them Taiwanese with 12 hours shifts without complains at TSMC. I can guarantee you TSMC will fail miserable in Arizona because Americans are simply much more demanding and lazy in comparison to them Taiwanese and Chinese.

No fucking way those methods work in USA.

And you know what the problem is, we don't have the money. Those trillions Bidumb signed off are fake money with inflation. We went through 5 QE with nothing to compensate for. And we don't have the workforce to create and replace jobs. And we have a closed border immigration if the Republicans retake the house and senate. So with no need workforce and no new real fundings, how do we rebuild and innovate?

And we just killed off our semiconductor industry by restricting sales to the largest buyer in the world. China buys 33% of all our chips. Now gone. WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?

And if we ban US green card or citizens from working with China or Chinese companies, who the hell is going to hire them at those prices? Is this even legal? Can US gov't tell Americans who to and not to work for? What if they sustain losses? Who pays for their damages?
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Oct 17 2022 12:03AM     link to this

Fuck your act of war. China hasn't invaded or declared war on anyone for the past 40 years.

And for the past 40 years, we and our gov't and media kept telling us China is aggressive and ready to attack.

The fuck you say?

Stop listening to the military complex and these pay by interest media. It weakens our minds and resolve as Americans.

China is a nuclear power nation. We are a nuclear power nation. We are NEVER going to war against each other.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH?

Even a proxy war, like Ukraine, so what? You think China is like Russia? If China invades Taiwan, its over in a week. There are many Taiwanese themselves that want unification. Over 11 percent. Just having that amount is 2.2 million taiwanese. All they have to do is have a few of them sabotage their own infrastructure and comm and its over without even starting a real war. And most of them are in the military. This shit is over before it will even start. Even our Gov't knows this. Its all blowhards trying to get funding and catch a few eyes in the news.

You want the true, then get to the root of the problem. This shit is created by US, the Americans to support this current DPP regime in Taiwan. Its clear as day. Its all leverage to bleed out taiwan's money and tech and have them cause enough trouble to slow down China. This is never about the well being of the Taiwanese or Freedom or Democracy.

its about money and staying as the world's ONLY superpower. We ain't messengers from God even some of us think we are and try to act like it by forcing the rest of the world to follow OUR world order. Like them 1.4 billion Chinese or Russian, or Middle East or South American and African gives a fuck about how WE feel.

We are too Anglo-Saxon. This is a diverse world. Get with the fucking program.
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Oct 17 2022 12:13AM     link to this

MADE IN USA?

You got your ass in your head Seymour?

The ONLY nation still buy MADE IN USE CARS is CHINA. Do you know that?

NO other fucking nation care for our products. That's why I used GM as an example because Caddy and Buick means something to the Chinese.

You go to Taiwan, Korea and Japan, finding an American made car is like finding Big Foot. Other than our embassies, you will rarely find one.

Made in USA means LOW QUALITY and EASILY BROKEN to the rest of the world.

Only us, the Americans think we have good shit. Look at the recall rates of our shit. Un-fucking-believable.

Get your braindead cornfeed head out of your fucking ass and face reality. We ain't the shit like we were in our father's days. Those Americans worked hard and gave a damn. Our next generations are so fucking woked and lazy and weed headed that getting them out of the bed before the Sunday brunch would be a fucking blessing.

Its fucking over already. You just haven't realized this. There are fucking Chinese/Vietnamese/Indian kids that still walk hours to get to school to get an education and then go home to work for the family biz to make your fucking t shirt and shoe so they can get a better life.

Our kids shoes are made by kids of their same age in another country.

That's why our manufacturing jobs and ANY meaningful jobs oversea ain't coming back.

Stop fucking day dreaming.
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Oct 17 2022 01:19AM     link to this

Once again , why?
Your more interested in selling this country out. You won't even consider trying to make America Great Again. Keep driving down the same fucking road. Make China Great and Keep it Great you fucking commy. You have no idea what sacrifice is. You fucking spoon fed white, yes I said White privileged motherfucker.
These Mexicans you try so hard to keep out are our workforce. They will work for 12 hrs a day and never complain about wages As long as they know they will be left alone. Your so fucking worried about your portfolio that you will sell your soul if you had to. Dream, your the very fuck that lives in a dream. How much american soil is owned by foreign countrymen. Everyday this land is being given away. Your fucking kids will be speaking mandarin or arabic and soon to be russian. Why? All because you make a buck selling Chinese products. Get your head out of your boyfriends ass you homosexual traitor. I called you a homo because you like Chinese cock in your rectum.
You really love that big house you live in don't you? Like a simple roof cannot suffice. All you can think of is your 401K while your grandchildren will have to work the rice fields.
You're definitely in your 30s with no real experience in what it means to be self sufficient, reliant, proud, patriotic, and most importantly head of household. You definitely went to college to get stupid. Fucking pupet.
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Oct 17 2022 01:24AM     link to this

And since it's game over.....get the fuck lost! Seriously, I will gladly pay for the tickets to get you and your family to a country you can live happily in. cgem, I mean left and right.
Your such a fool. Totally dry snitched on yourself.
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Oct 17 2022 02:07AM     link to this

Do I look like the President of the United States? How is it my responsibility to fix this god damn mess?

Why do I care about how the dumb leaders of Congress and our nation decide when my vote or my opinion don't matter? Its fucking California, them libtards run the shows and ruining everything.

Nobody can fix this because we run in a democracy. Too many conflicting interest impeding our progress and we have an election every 4 years so no longevity on ANY meaningful policies.

You want solutions, in the long term, only better educating our next generations in STEM can help. Nothing else. Not how well you can dunk or how well you can rap or how good of a lawyer you are or how good of a financial guy you are.

STEM. That's it.

The short term is to maximize our corporate profits and lessen their tax while increase incentive on their own R&D ratio. Like China if a company spends 5% of their revenue in R&D, the gov't gives them tax breaks. We can do the same. At the same time, we increase H1-B visa to especially China and brain drain their top talents so they can move to America and become American Citizens. We win by getting talents and also win by draining theirs.

I rather have ten thousand smart Chinese engineers than ten thousand of anyone else. Or we allow EB1-C to get their top talents and managers over. And we mandate those smart Chinese foreign students to stay in our companies by giving them temporary green cards. Only the smart STEM ones.

Its about human talents that we lack. Look at the tech boom, nearly half the founders and key guys are all immigrants or foreigners. Immigration is key and we must regulate in a way that we gave priority.

You have to realize that the entire graduating student class for a 4 year Bachelor of Science degree in America combined is less than 1/10 of just the STEM class graduate of the same degree in China.

Not even 10%.

How do you win against them in the long run in STEM? Which decides our science in semi-conductor, A.I. biotech, Pharmaceuticals...etc. By sheer # and quality, we lose automatically.

Just bitching and moaning about decouple and made in USA is for losers.

Competition will make us better. What Bidumb and Trump did weakens our resolve. You think the Chinese can't innovate and improve on their own? They are smart and hardworking, a winning combination that's undefeated under any circumstance. And they got the number, a willing gov't and a united people and stabilized gov't.

And frankly, China got more friends in the world than we have. We have richer friends but their growth are saturated. China got friends that still have tremendous growth. Making their outlook a whole lot better than ours.

But we must improve ourselves in Education. Its the only way. Its long, hard, and underappreciated. But its the only way because our public school system is lightyears behind the Chinese or most advance Asian nations. If we didn't have the powerful dollar, we are totally fucked.

So there, that's the answer.
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Oct 17 2022 02:24AM     link to this

And you can't afford my tickets for my family. I got a rather large one. And we fly non-American first class airlines. Because UA, AA, Delta all suck donkey balls. My tickets are 20k a pop for where I want to go.

You have to sell a house to afford us. I don't see you able to do that with your history and network.

So don't offer anything that you can't fulfill.
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Oct 17 2022 08:40AM     link to this

No earth metals will be banned, the number of workers is minuscule with this action in place
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Oct 17 2022 09:05AM     link to this

cgem, you don't deserve first class or a choice of airline. And the the answer is yes. You have no idea how much money I am able to spend on a worthy cause.
What you will get and mind you it's too lush even for a piece of dog shit like you, is to be boxed up, 5 to be exact and shipped out of Tiajuana on the oldest rusted engine popping, engine smoking 1945 B17. Oh, so sorry, forgot, they were built before your father was even born. Nevertheless, flown by Captain Romero Gustavo Jose Jose de Gonzalo Gonzales Sanchez Ramirez Ochoa Guzman the local drunk who learned how to fly when he was 9.
But don't worry, no need to be scared. I doubt you will live more than 15-20 minutes after take off, if you survive the fumes from diesel and burning oil. At least the exotic Zebra painted Donkey will keep you warm if you do live to tell your story to the first commy bastard to great you if Captain Romero even can see straight enough to land.
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Oct 17 2022 09:40AM     link to this

Someone pass the popcorn…
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Oct 17 2022 10:40AM     link to this

The Art of War has changed my friend.

Read China's 100 year plan.
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Oct 17 2022 12:16PM     link to this

the chemicals they are shipping to mexico will be killing 100k per year in america. to me, that's a government-sanctioned act of war on america. with all the controls they have there, no way it's NOT

jury still out on covid...didn't look good out of the gate







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Oct 17 2022 12:18PM     link to this

The pre cursor chemicals are legal chemicals shipped all over the world, including USA. Countries like India or Indonesia would be replacements if blocked from one country
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Oct 17 2022 12:24PM     link to this

talking about the one killing our people on a daily bases
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Oct 17 2022 01:46PM     link to this

Which countries has China ever invaded?

Invasion Of Manchukuo in 1945. ...
Invasion Of China in 1949. ...
Invasion Of Tibet in 1950. ...
Invasion Of South and North Korea in 1950. ...
Invasion Of India In 1962. ...
Invasion Of The Soviet Union In 1969. ...
Invasion Of Vietnam In 1979.

If we don't count the complete racist suppression of the Uighur population, you just made the 40 year cutoff! What I like about a good old fashioned Chinese invasion is they usually import a bunch of Hans in order to destroy the indigenous population, a la Tibet and Uighur.

Xi will single-handedly bury China, guaranteed
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Oct 17 2022 06:10PM     link to this

Single handedly.....but he has two hands?
Are you saying, he can fuck that country up standing on his head?
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Oct 17 2022 06:18PM     link to this

@SymourButts you're wrong and just displayed your ignorance, im sorry i hurt your feelings but I am not CGEM i was on this site many moons ago emailed the China man that owns this site and asked him delete my old account. I got married now i am separated so am back i haven't seen any on here yet because I found a new fuck buddy, i travel alot for work and this site is dead outside SoCal. Stop assuming dumb fuck its dangerous for me and that CGEM weenie.
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Oct 17 2022 08:52PM     link to this

"You have to realize that the entire graduating student class for a 4 year Bachelor of Science degree in America combined is less than 1/10 of just the STEM class graduate of the same degree in China."

That shit don't matter, quantity won't win when the communist party controls the investment flow. Xi is fucking shit up bad. Productivity growth now down to .6%, population imploding, billions....no, trillions misdirected into supporting state run corps that are eating shit. Prior to Xi, overall growth was high, last 10 years dropped dramatically and next 5 will be worse. China will grow old before they get rich. GDP per capita is 18% of US, up from 12% 10 years ago but unlikely to make any more headway. Xi has no choice but to start a war under nationalist banner before they cart him out to a reeducation farm.

US sucks ass due to demented Biden but China is in worse shape, by far.
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Oct 17 2022 10:00PM     link to this

What I deserve is my business. You want to pay my fees, then that's my rule. If you can't pay, then stfu. Don't be fronting when you don't have the bank account to back up your talk SB.

We are talking about Money. Not security. Tell me how safe you feel now that China has its own space station and ours are about to crash and burn by 2024. We banned China on everything space related for 30 years. Look at them now. And look at us now.

Same shit with Chips. SMIC already has 7nm. Forget how efficient they had to make them. When it comes to supplying missiles, efficiency on making them is pointless, they will spend the money regardless.

Didn't US just ban building more F-35 because of metals from China? Well, who's the replacement?

Anyone? Name a fucking replacement for me! So no one can replace China, and we simply CREATE a rule saying that's exempt and we can continue to BUY from China because WE HAVE NO FUCKING CHOICE.

Indonesia. Australia and India? GTFO. They don't have the money, tech, skillset, and supply chain to extract and produce any of that. And most of those companies are Chinese companies anyways. They hold most of the pattens on REE tech.

All China has to do is target ONE single REE, we are totally fucked. Lanthanum. Our entire oil refinery, car, battery industries stop immediately. AS IN IMMEDIATELY.

If China says FUCK YOU to USA on Praseodymium, kiss our missiles and defense industry goodbye for the next 5 years at the minimum. No new missile productions guaranteed. Can't fly or aim without it. You can kiss or aircraft engines goodbye too. Again Short Boeing and Raytheon if this shit happens.

Or China can say FUCK you to us and our allies in Japan and SK on Cerium, Terbium and Yttrium. Kiss all our computer screens, TV, sonars, radars, cellphones all goodbye. No sonars, no navy or fighter jets.

Good luck fighting a war against Russia or China. I honestly don't know why China hasn't fuck with us yet but if we keep on squeezing them, more than likely one of these is going to happen.

And you can forget us building plants and mines for the REE. No chance any libtard will allow it. Its the most polluting thing on earth. California has a few mines. No one is doing anything. Mountain pass has a dominant one but its a bitch to mine it there without destroying the entire region.

And the domestic supply chain needed to mine, extract, refine, and produce this shit cost hundreds of billions for a very SMALL quantity that we absolutely need. The key elements to our defense industry are in fucking South Africa and China. Both hates our fucking guts.

So good fucking luck if shit hits the fan on this. Keep pushing them and see what happens. We will need Teddy R to create a NEW NEW DEAL. look at our inflation rate, we got 4 more POINTS to go in the next 2 months. This all started with Trump and Bidumb. We could Easily reduce the rate if we lower the tariff and re-open our pipelines on oil and gas. But no... fucking Trump and Bidumb and the rest of the crooks in Congress need an enemy so our military complex can profit trillions on so we create imaginary enemies instead of trade partners that we can both benefit on.

@GBD

All of those so called wars, except the Korean War and Tibet, the aggressor and initiator are all the other party. India being the worse. And you can still argue Tibet as part of China or not.

And I'm still correct, past 40 years. Not a single WAR. Not imprisonment or labor camp. War.

You want semantics, Guantanamo anyone? Didn't we put all the Japs in prison camps? And all the Chinese on Angel Island camp? Just because of race? I forget, what did we do the natives again? How many skull mugs we got and jawline ash trays the great grand daddys got on their trophy rooms?

How many wars did we start? Forget the ones we acknowledged. How many SECRET WARS did we start in Asia and South and Central America and the Caribbean in the past 60 years. How many villages did we burn in the Philippines when we colonized them and how many Pinay did we rape while we were there? How many Viets did we murdered and how many Viets did we rape? How many Koreans did we murder and how many Koreans did we rape, even until today. Japan? Okinawa women raped on a yearly basis?

Because the USof A are mother fucking SAINTS. Them Russian and Chinks are all killers and murderers. USA # ONE!. We are always fucking right. I will drink to that since I live here. I got no problem so long as WE are doing the raping and killing. But time has changed, we got China risen. And they are in our face and look at us up and down and say FUCK YOU to our faces. We can't do anything so we get petty and specific. Even this will hurt us TREMENDOUSLY, we do it because it will hurt them in the short term. Its the most stupid thing on earth.

Since 1776, we have been AT WAR for 222 out of 239 years. And China is the aggressor right? They are the one WE should be worried about when WE have over 800 military basses across the world with technically 11 aircraft carrier groups. CHINA is the threat but we are the one being threatened when we patrol China's coast on a weekly basis with our nuclear subs and tomahawk carrying DDGs.

WE are the threat right? We have military bases in 5 nations encircling China as we speak in Pakistan, South Korea, Japan, Philippines and Singapore. We gave up Afghanistan. Could've had 6. Fuck Bidumb.

And WE are the problem right. Them Chinese should just kowtow to us and live their lives shit scared with us pointing nukes and missiles at them from 3 out of the 4 directions encircling them.

While we are over 6000 miles away from them if we count from Los Angeles. Them Chinese are the threat right. We the USA must dominate and win at everything right? No one else can innovate and build anything that's remotely threatening to us and we must crush them even we are the ones invented the WTO. We basically violated every single rule and law we have built.

USA #1!!!!!! I got no problem. But all of our bank accounts and our children's bank accounts will have some serious problem if we march down this road. Any fucking idiot with half a brain can see this. I'm just looking for me and my family's interest. Just open your portfolio and compare today with 2 years ago the same day. Tell me how you fucking feel. And expect more pain to come when our economy tank next year because we are at an all out economic and tech war against China. Half our tech companies will lose money. Half our retail/manufacturing companies will also lose money. Get ready for the great Christmas 2022 firing. Lots of folks as salaryman will get pink slips in those industries.

Every single one of my peers have frozen on hiring. Everyone. Many are firing the more senior ones due to rising costs in benefits. Its already happening. Mark this post. Shit storm is coming end of year and next year. Get your lifeguard ready. You can thank Bidumb for this shit if he doesn't change his tune quick.

After 11/8/2022 on our midterm election when the libtards lose the house and maybe senate and Bidumb immediately becomes lame duck, if Xi refuses to meet Bidumb at the G20, all hell will break loose. We are fucking done for the next 2 years.
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Oct 17 2022 10:35PM     link to this

REE are actually not that rare, dude
Some of what you say has some truth
But you're gonna have a brain aneurysm saying it

Calm down, Hop Sing
*tldr
GoBallsDeep
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Oct 17 2022 10:44PM     link to this

As to our economy?
Yeah, we're pretty much fucked after borrowing out our ass.
IDGAF as I went to cash late last year
Sold a bunch of RE
and parked a bunch of money in 7.5% trust deeds at less than 50% LTV

Hope the market eats shit another 50%
Get down to a sub 10 PE from current 16
But I'm agnostic, open to a turnaround at any time
So far, just a bounce in oversold shit
Not many good stocks setting up in the correct patterns yet

Anyhoo, most of your prognostications will never come to pass
But, don't stroke out on us
We need the comic relief around here


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Oct 17 2022 10:48PM     link to this

Goddam!
All that! You know, for being a scrawny bastard you sure get real fluffy! I sure hope you don't own any guns . Cause your about to blow.
This dude is stressed out. I sure hope they didn't catch him on camera shittin on Pelosis desk.
cgem
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Oct 17 2022 10:55PM     link to this

GBP, dude, does anyone really care about what people type on this fucking site?

Its all vent at the stupidity of fucking Bidumb and all the fucking crooks on top. And all the fucking idiots thinking these shit fuck leaders are doing the right thing.

These leaders ain't stupid. They know this. But they do the wrong thing anyways because they polluted the mass and media so much that they can't turn back on China. Its all about votes instead of Americans.

Everyone in Business on ANYTHING knows China is extremely good and profitable for us if we simply let gov't out of the this. Them Chinese don't want to spend trillions on Semi-conductor industry when they can buy in good prices from us in a reliable manner. If they wanted to seriously get into this field, they would've done so years ago.

Chinese are fucking amazing in planning for future. They just didn't realize how fucking insane our leaders are on sacrificing trillions in profits for a short term gain in momentum. As if them Chinese are all fucking retarded and can't innovate. They already lead us in AI, EV, Quantum computing, REE and 5G and 6G. This HAPPENED already.

And we are still like, nope, we can bottleneck them on chips. So lets do it and see what happens. Well shit fuck, chips and semi-conductors are our MOST PROFITABLE BUSINESSES. And this supports ALL of our HIGH EARNERS in IC, ICT, FAB, Foundries, Designs...etc. Basically all of our 6 figures earners will take a hit from San Jose to Austin to North Carolina to New York and Boston.

Shit fuck, are we really this fucking dense? Don't they know this all trickles down to OTHER industries all the way to your local deli, barbershop, and the dude that mows your lawn?

I'm done. Enough venting for the day. I'm just blessed I still got my health and family is doing good. And I can still hobby regularly. Fuck the rest. I'm out.
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Oct 17 2022 11:06PM     link to this

SB, I'm armed to the teeth and shoots all the time. LOL. Its all for sports. If you go to LA Clays, chances are you would've bumped into me without knowing.

But don't worry, I will only make thugs eat lead.
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Oct 17 2022 11:36PM     link to this

I think China will surpass america too just by merely massive surplus robotics integration, hence why america is shooting out these more unhinged narratives IMO. But jesus christ these essays
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Oct 17 2022 11:37PM     link to this

like holy moly
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Oct 17 2022 11:41PM     link to this

these are great copy pasta's to spam
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Oct 18 2022 10:34PM     link to this

"Its all vent at the stupidity of fucking Bidumb and all the fucking crooks on top. And all the fucking idiots thinking these shit fuck leaders are doing the right thing."

Amen brother, preaching to the choir.
We got morons on the site will suck a politicians dick and swallow the wad
Drop trou and back up their ass for a good anal hammer-slam
Then beg for round 2
And 3
Then swallow

On both sides of the aisle
SeymourButz
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Oct 19 2022 11:14AM     link to this

Bring back the Whig Party. I like to wig out.
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Oct 19 2022 12:39PM     link to this

@Seymour
Bueller?

Bueller?






Bueller?
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Oct 19 2022 12:51PM     link to this

the china love is incredible

might be good to spew one or two things at a time....not 10. laundry list tend to be thread killer...not really the information in the post.

a lot of countries have brilliant people. the one thing about china is that they recently got a nice VIEW of how their brilliant business leaders were treated. i would say that is the SAVING GRACE of the potential situation. i look at the DEM party here in the same way...they have a winning hand and over play it sooo bad, it moves america to vote against it.




sending chemicals to mexico...with the intention of killing americans. the number will be approaching a 100k on that one thing alone in the near future.

the holding back domestic flights, letting int'l flights go. doesn't look good


--some things will be hard to get past


russias been at war for about 8 months and have about 60k plus dead from it. not sure what the number of ukrainians are, could be hundreds of thousands civs/soldiers.

so china is SMART...they don't need to fire a bullet and they get 100k per year of our people. the fact our own government is not doing anything about it is criminal in itself.








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Oct 19 2022 04:18PM     link to this

@Left no Right, no Left, no I said Right goddammit you don't listen for shit!

number nine...........number nine.........number nine......NUMBER NINE!
fuckit......number ten.
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Oct 19 2022 09:46PM     link to this

"No one has done more for NATO than Vladimir Putin, and Xi Jinping is doing something similar for democracies in the Asia-Pacific. On Saturday Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida and Australian PM Anthony Albanese will meet in Perth to sign a new security pact to share information about China and other military intelligence."

"The two countries have long had a friendly relationship, and the new agreement updates a 2007 pact. But China’s militarization of islands in the South China Sea and threats against Taiwan are bringing the two even closer on defense matters."

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Oct 20 2022 06:05AM     link to this

Ohhhk completely ignore the fact that you accused me and Cgem of being the same user with 2 accounts, its ok bro your generation has problem manning up when you're wrong.
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Oct 20 2022 06:06AM     link to this

@Seymour crack.........................................






...................head!
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Oct 20 2022 09:32AM     link to this

Just cause I did it that one time doesn't make me CH.
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