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Worst way to celebrate the Chinese Lunar New Year.
Crazy gunman ruins a neat tradition.
Condolences to all.
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Used to live a block away from there, this is soo sad
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Someone wrestled the gun away so hopefully they can get fingerprints and/or track down owner of gun if not stolen.
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Tragic.... already democraps are trying to politicize this tragedy.
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Standoff in Torrance. My guess is he was a disgruntled ex husband who lost his mental state after his wife left him. Happy Lunar New Year to all asian peeps who uses the lunar calendar
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Prayers goes out to them
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Watching the news conference and it clearly shows someone in the driver seat of a white van slumped over the steering wheel with bullet hole(s) in the driver side window. Dumbass/clueless Sheriff Luna says he doesn't know if its the same guy who shot up the Monterey Park dance hall last night 21 Jan. He holds up a photo of the suspect and the suspect is Asian wearing a very distinct patterned hat on his head, 5-10 150 lbs. The suspect's vehicle is described as a white van .
One of the witnesses at the Del Amo mall described the guy slumped over the wheel of a white vam was wearing the same patterned hat that the sheriff showed in his news conference.
Sheriff Luna cannot says if he knows the condition of the suspect in the van.
This sheriff is a disgrace and the Asian community will never respect this clown for lying about what he knows, standing in a predominantly Asian community and offering shallow platitudes. When we need assurance, he wipes his bullshit on our legs.
The bad guy is dead. Just fucking say that so we can move on and grieve.
Not sure why Mayor Henry Lo is being sheepish about this. Yea yea, he was out there too but when we need leadership in this crisis...I guess Luna told him not t say too much.
My rant and sorry I need to come on here to explain this on behalf of my Asian friends that the bad guy is dead.
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Wow that’s so scary and so sad.
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Fish,
Thanks.
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He was a Taiwanese immigrant upset with Chinese aggression.
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Not
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😭😭😭😭
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Authorities identified the suspect as Huu Can Tran,
a 72-year-old man whose body was found inside a
white cargo van with self-inflected gunshot wounds.
I took this picture from the television.
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Seymour Butts. This is not funny. Bad guy identified as Huu Tran. 72 year old Han Chinese Vietnamese.
72 year old Viet means MB former NVN regular army or Viet Kong militant. MB a boat people guy with PTSD.
I wonder how many more like this guy are out there?
At least one agent hosting Viet ladies already said "No Viet guys" and this is probably why.
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I brought the post up because my neighbor was one of the lucky ones.
She and her family were at the event and she could hear the attack from the parking lot as she was arriving. A few minutes earlier and she may have been among the victims.
They are all in shock.
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What's funny about a guess. China and Taiwan are at odds with one another.
Last time it was a Chinese immigrant who attacked a Taiwanese church.
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The guy was born in Taiwan* for last time, although some from Taiwan consider them as Chinese
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I was on my way to The Granada in Alhambra and saw about 6
police cars in front of the Lei Lei dance studio on Garfield Ave,
the 2nd location where patrons disarmed the suspect.
It's a good thing the suspect was an old Asian man guy and not
some 6 foot, 200 pound guy in his 20-30s.
I pray for all those that lost their lives.
Unfortunately there is a lot more misery to come for many. 😪
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So the updates story is that the shooter was looking for his wife….
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She was his ex wife since 2005
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Trần (陳) or Tran is a common Vietnamese surname. More than 10% of all Vietnamese people share this surname. It is derived from the common Chinese surname Chen.
Vietnamese boat people who came to the states in the late 70's/80's were ethnic Han Chinese. Many of them fought in the Vietnamese war as Viet Cong, NVA or SVA. Some fought on both sides to do what they had to do to protect their families.
When China invaded Vietnam in the late 70's after the Americans left, the NVA kicked their ass and in retaliation kicked out as many ethnic Han Vietnamese people as they could identify.
If you watch the video of the young Chinese guy struggling with the 72 year old Tran, it is obvious Tran has some martial arts skills, probably learned from his days as a combatant. He nearly takes down a much younger man and leaves him bloodied and bruised.
Tran also had some skills in explosives production, able to to modify his handgun with a larger than allowed clip, and so this shows some training on his part.
Watch the video on You Tube attached. This 72 year old scumbag had some skills.
Shared from another club with permission from someone who knows about PTSD in Vietnamese men and women who participated in the Vietnamese war in the 60's and 70's.
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Asian people. What’s going on? Why ya’ll suddenly killing each other a lot. Another shooting today in Half Moon Bay. Asian dude went off and killed a bunch of Chinese farmers. Something wrong with this Lunar New Year or what?
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Never saw any of you people ask what going on in Chicago with other not Asian people shooting each other on a daily basis that dwarf what happen in Monterey Park.
Half Moon Bay is something else. Something you should Google as explaining is a not allowed here.
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FunAsian.
Cause we don't give a shit about Chicago.
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jindd1328:
This is only speculation,
But…
When I noticed his name was Tran, and he was 72 years old, I was thinking the same thing.
Whether NVA, VC or ARVN, he very well could have been in the shit, and, probably for many years.
Combat related PTSD, can fester and lay dormant for many years. Actually, after Vietnam, it was initially called Delayed Stress Syndrome. I know guys who Broke down 10 or 15 years, after they came home.
In any event, a terrible tragedy.
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It makes me wonder why jindd1328 would think that an ethnic Chinese veteran of the North Vietnamese Army or the Viet Cong living in Monterey Park would be any better or worse than a veteran of the Army of the Republic of Viet Nam living in Westminster.
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I live about 10 minutes away. And I was at the celebration in Alhambra earlier. I am in that area all the time.
So sad.....prayers for all those families touched by this and in Half Moon Bay and in Oakland tragedies today.
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@Funasianclub, I take it that you are racist..
People ask about this because it's out of the ordinary and something new. What's been happening in Chicago has been going on for well over a decade.
You would have too be racist too compare the two..
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Seems like the guy had a thing against the two establishments. From the pov and testimonies of some of the people at the scene and their description to the media, seems like the guy was firing at the instructors directions. He clearly was looking for certain people at the second location.
Maybe there is some animosity against the establishment as he's a member of both dance halls for decades.
He even met and married his ex-wife at the dance hall. This is probably about a guy who already had anger issues being too wind up and finally snap. Clearly he had skills and knows firearms but being in America, that's easy to learn.
Tran is definitely a Vietnamese last name. Huu is also a Vietnamese name like Luu or Buu. Chinese nationals do not spell their names in such form. Most of the Vietnamese name derived from Cantonese and Guangzhi in a historical sense.
Almost ALL of the Vietnamese last names can be written in Han Chinese. Much like Korean and Japanese Names. South Korea capital Seoul used to be written in Chinese as Han City in Chinese writing. It was later changed to Capital phonetic in Chinese writing as they want to disassociate from being named as the City belonging to the Han Chinese for the past hundreds of years. Same with Tokyo, Osaka, Pusan, Saigon, Hanoi...etc. They all have Chinese written names and meanings in their own language and nation. Even the Kimono that Japanese wear known as their traditional clothing is the direct style of Tang Dynasty clothing from ancient China as Chinese cultures had heavy influence in Japan. They are almost identical down to the type of garment used and how you fold the clothing.
Most of the lighter skin Viets have Chinese ethnic lineage going back 2000 years. Half of what's known as Vietnam today was part of some China Dynasty hundreds of years ago. Even Vietnam's Viet means a certain Kingdom way back in China's warring periods in ancient time. Many words in Vietnamese have the exact same pronunciation and meaning as Cantonese and Guangzhi local dialects in China. So to say Vietnamese and Chinese are totally unrelated would not be correct. Just some bit of factual info so you don't get confused by some posters above.
Some mentioned that he was excluded from a wechat invitation to the dance competition at the gala on Chinese New Years so maybe that was the final straw. ABC7 news is doing a good job covering this at the local level.
This is why you should know your environment. You piss off the wrong guy/gal, you don't know what might come after.
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Cgerm is right!
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jindd1328 is racist, it used the term Boat People.
Boat People is a derogatory name like N or Wet or Spic etc.
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@cgem
Thanks for the bit of history.
It gives a perspective that most people will never hear or see in this situation.
On a side note..
I once knew a girl who was Eurasian. Her father was Vietnamese who served in the SVA during the Vietnam War. Her mother was Dutch..
She told me that her father had ptsd, from that war and could be quite scary when it happened. Ultimately it led to her parents divorcing.
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the mac 10 he used was definitely a 70s firearm
and was auctioned for 200$ back in the 70s , so jind u are probably right
he was popular in viet war days
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it was*
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Aren't Mac 10's illegal in California?
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Bic Mac's should be illegal. They cost 6 bucks now.
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Mac 9
Mac 10
Mac 11
Are all illegal
Gun laws have no effect on the bad guys.
Someday the populous will learn that.
Although I do doubt it.
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In the late 70's I'm 16 years old. I'm working at my 1st job, Pioneer Chicken. I worked with
2 Vietnamese brothers around my age. They told me they left their country in a helicopter. These guys spoke almost accent free English and had expensive tastes. Their father was ex military.
This current asshole is 72 in 1975 he's only 24. I don't know if that's old enough to be a military high up.? Dancer's will be taken more seriously when they have a complaint.
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My guess is he was 18 in 1968. Born in 1950
He started in 65 or 66. They started younger than that actually.
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@Vss4
My notes say
"Troll. Blacklisted 5-29-2020"
What else you got besides using the race card?
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jindd1328 is racist, it used the term Boat People.
Boat People is a derogatory name like N or Wet or Spic etc.
So Seymore has dived into the woke vomit toilet.
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Nice comeback dude.
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Almost ALL of the Vietnamese last names can be written in Han Chinese.
There are 3 writing styles if you want to include Vietnamese
1. Traditional Chinese characters that nearly anyone can read. These are the ones we use to communicate whether ya'll be from Taiwan, Hong Kong, southeast Asia, There are exceptions. Indonesian, Lao, Cambodian, Malay, Burmese and Thai have their own written language styles. Singapore uses simplified Chinese (Mandarin) characters in formal business matters but if they want to communicate on a less formal manner, traditional Chinese is what they use.
2. Cantonese vs Mandarin. Mandarin is the official language and is widely spoken and understood in mainland China, Taiwan and most of southeast Asia. The written characters differ but the words are mostly the same with some tonal differences especially adverbs and adjectives.
3. Vietnamese characters are generally written in the same format as Romanized characters due to the French colonialist influence, The Viet language requires accent marks etc to explain the required pronunciation and context of the words.
When "Han Chinese" is referenced as an ethnic group, it refers to Chinese people no matter where they are from - Taiwan, Hong Kong etc. It is not a language. Compare it to Hispanic people in the US, whether they are from Mexico, Honduras or El Salvador. Same language just from different regions.
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@funasianclub2016
You blacklisted me yet, I have no clue who you are other than the racist post, you posted on this thread
So yeah!!!!
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