Trump should have been fined more. The judge wanted to go harder on him, build a sweat as Trump takes it up the ass like a good Putin bitch. Deeper and deeper, biting that defendants table harder and leaving teeth marks.
Trump basically fired Ronna McDaniel and installed his daughter in law as co-chair. His obvious purpose is to use RNC for his piggy bank to cover his increasing legal fees and penalties.
I should hope RNC gets bankrupted soon.
Rs will be gone and remembered as the most corrupted political party in our history.
Obviously, another appeal will happen but this may become a very expensive election run for Trump.
How much is he willing to spend in legal fees and fines just to feed his ego to be Pres?
And who was the victim here? The banks were fine with Trump and the loans. In fact, bankers testified they want to do more deals with Trump. He did not default on any of the loans and has paid back the money as agreed. Of course, this particular statute doesn't actually require a victim, as it is brought by the State to protect the 'unnamed and countless' victims that cannot protect themselves. But these a high end banks, insurance companies, etc. so if they had a beef they can protect themselves.
Of course, you all know that with any real estate loan, the lender gets its own appraisal to assess value before lending the money, which is exactly what the banks did, and will always do.
The valuations from Trump had disclaimers, cautioning that the numbers may not be accurate.
If I had a business in New York, I would be moving out right now. Even if no one is harmed or suffers a financial loss, putting some inaccuracy into your financials or annual statement and you could be fined millions.....
Let's say you rob a bank. But the next day returned the money to the bank. Have you committed a crime?
Yes, you have.
How about you rob a bank, take the money and invest it, then return the money you stole. Should you be able to keep the additional money you made from the money you stole?
No, you must return the money made and you must pay a penalty to keep you from doing it again (and to signal to others not to do what you did).
What Trump did was qualify for loans using false information. With a determination of better credit worthiness, you get loans at lower interest rates. You may also qualify for a loan where you wouldn't have otherwise.
NY has a public interest in having borrowers be truthful in the documents submitted to lenders. Just because it worked out for Trump and his family doesn't mean that it should be encouraged.
Had Trump not been such a complete asshole, had he been remorseful, had he admitted that he was wrong in doing what he did, he would have had some leniency for sure. But the fucking moron fought with the judge over and over again. Claimed he did nothing wrong when the facts showing outright fraud were obvious.
The is the judgment Trump deserves.
Finally, Trump is being treated like everyone else. If you commit a crime, you pay the price.
His own hatred of others.
His hatred in his sycophants.
And the hatred of those who hold him accountable for stepping over lines that should not be crossed for personal gain and aggrandization.
He’s now on the hook for nearly a half-billion dollars across three civil cases. This link has the rules for when and how he must pay.
Hey tramptards your orange clown needs your money and soon. Time to step up and send some five or six figure donations. You idiots worship this POS, give till it hurts and put your money where your mouth is.
I wonder if any of DJT's family members cautioned him in 2015 about running for president because of all the scrutiny it would make him subject to. And after what has transpired, why on earth would he want to run again?
1) His ego!
2) It may be the only way he can stay out of prison (if he wins).
Two excellent reasons to want to be the leader of the free world! And equally two reasons we should let him (NOT)!
I don't think he gives a rat-fuck about America and it's citizens or the world in general, he only cares about himself and how he can profit from being president. If he signs a tax bill into law then you can bet it has major upside ramifications for him. Not saying that a lot of politicians are not the same way, but DJT does it without any filters and with absolutely no remorse or apologies when he gets called out on doing it. Except now he thinks that a president should be immune form any and all reasons for facing civil and criminal complaints, regardless of how bad they are.
The only good thing that has come out of DJT's stint as president and beyond is that tons of books will be written by very educated and savvy professionals about the dangers associated with letting a preeminent narcissist and pathological liar become the leader of a major power. Or, we could just go back and read the numerous books already written about Hitler. Same soup - different bowl!
Keep drinking the orange kool-aid. You can't break the law. Simple
How about the 10 million people who have illegally entered the U.S. You can't break the law.
How about the tens of thousands who engaged in riots and looting during the summer of 2020. You can't break the law.
How about the thousands of people who are doing the high end shop lifting. You can't break the law.
How about after receipt of a subpoena, Hillary Clinton deleted 30,000 emails, removed sim cards from devices, smashed devices and used BleachBit on the servers. You can't break the law.
Oh, that's right certain people CAN break the law.
"Keep drinking the orange kool-aid. You can't break the law. Simple"
Everybody get ready for the Great HX Roundup!
Kidding aside, the issues?
#1 Letitia James literally ran on the platform of "elect me and I'll get Trump" lol
Can we all imagine if pols begin running for office with that simple message for people they don't like? How about, "elect me and I'll get Fauci" or "elect me and I'll get 'name your least favorite person here'".....utter bullshit but this is what happens in these kinds of places
#2 Recently, Biden's people screamed holy hell about Robert Hur being a Republican and calling Joe old, lol. Funny that I've not heard those same people screaming that Judge Engoron is an elected Democrat.........oops, just like Letitia James
#3 This same judge decides all on his own what the amount of the penalty is lol......why not $350 Trillion and we can pay off the US Debt and have a little left over?
#4 Donald Trump is an idiot with an ego the size of a planetoid, so basically deserves everything he gets..........and more.
To your question Marissa............not sure, i would think he was warned.........maybe by Ivana and that's why she got pushed down her stairs and buried under a sand bunker
The only semi-smart ones seems to be the hot daughter who dot disgusted and fucked off with hubby.
"Keep drinking the orange kool-aid. You can't break the law. Simple"
Everybody get ready for the Great HX Roundup!
Kidding aside, the issues?
#1 Letitia James literally ran on the platform of "elect me and I'll get Trump" lol
Can we all imagine if pols begin running for office with that simple message for people they don't like? How about, "elect me and I'll get Fauci" or "elect me and I'll get 'name your least favorite person here'".....utter bullshit but this is what happens in these kinds of places
#2 Recently, Biden's people screamed holy hell about Robert Hur being a Republican and calling Joe old, lol. Funny that I've not heard those same people screaming that Judge Engoron is an elected Democrat.........oops, just like Letitia James
#3 This same judge decides all on his own what the amount of the penalty is lol......why not $350 Trillion and we can pay off the US Debt and have a little left over?
#4 Donald Trump is an idiot with an ego the size of a planetoid, so basically deserves everything he gets..........and more.
To your question Marissa............not sure, i would think he was warned.........maybe by Ivana and that's why she got pushed down her stairs and buried under a sand bunker
The only semi-smart ones seems to be the hot daughter who dot disgusted and fucked off with hubby.
I can't help but think, thankfully, 'The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.' If you knowingly and intentionally lie and break the rules for decades, don't complain when there are eventually consequences. #FuckAroundFindOut #RuleOfLaw #ThoughtsAndPrayers
The judgment will be reduced if not eliminated upon appeal.
I find it amazing as I have stated before how those of you who
don't like Trump, ignore the criminal activities by the Bidens.
Not to mention how Hillary was given a pass.
Wonder what will happen if Trump decides to take the 22,500 jobs in his organization out of New York, and with it, the $900 + million payroll that generates payroll, income, and sales taxes for the State, and contributes to the local economy for housing, restaurants, stores, etc.
That $370 million settlement might cost New York that tax revenue and economic support forever.....LOL.
Just as smart as AOC not wanting Amazon to come to New York with its 25,000 jobs.
No wonder New York's economy sucks. U.S. News and World Report ranks all 50 states in a number of categories. New York ranks #20 overall, but 45th in Economy and 49 in Opportunity.
Dumb Democrats. They never understand economics and business.
These cases will be overturned on appeal and the fucking idiots in New York will have wasted millions on a “trumped up” case. Those millions are needed by New Yorkers and those Nee Yorkers need the jobs created by business people like Trump. But far left liberals are driving away business and they will wake up as economic wastelands. Business will be in The red states where government is not focused on Big Gulp sodas and plastic straws.
That's been happening for 20 years now and the slide is increasing.
Both CA and NY had their largest net out-migration in history
But, don't kid yourself, the Progs love that you get the hell out so they can ideologically purify this damn place. Until they run short of more people to extort for taxes, its not a problem.
Don't look now, but 8 -10 states are looking to just "grab" your net worth, if it's higher than they like.
CA is heading there but tiny Vermont is leading the pack in driving capital out so they can create............. Venezuela?
$20 fast food min wage will lead to fewer overall FF jobs in CA, that's just a fact.
Again, that's OK with Progs cause they enjoy making life more difficult for the poor.
Don't believe me?
Try being poor in CA for a week
Who was damaged? How do you come up with $350 million in penalties?
My understanding is that NY law allows for fines even if there are no damages.
This is justice? It was reported that these types of fines have never been levied before
the Trump case.
If this is allowed, don't be surprised that they will be coming for HX next! LOL
Just look around and you'll see all the questionable activity going around here. LOL
Got to put a stop to it. They got Trump, next HX. LOL
Pathetic and desperate Trump, AKA: a Russian COM-patriot, a CON-artist is selling now worthless & ugly looking Sneaker-CON (golden emblem of grievance, rather it shouled be named as a golden emblem of corruption) at Philadelphia at the price of $399 a pair to cover his legal fees. Why not put this on sales at RNC front since he took it over now. Idiots will be glad to spend that money for their Fuhrer.
"Their complete lack of contrition and remorse borders on pathological" It is quite right.
The judge originally ruled, through summary judgment, that there was overwhelming evidence of fraud.
During the trial portion of the case to determine damages, Trump showed no remorse for what he and his family did, often insulting and attacking the judge and his clerk.
The judge meticulously document each instance of fraud in his opinion. Although many real estate investors inflate the value of their properties, usually by 20-30%, Trump often inflated the value of his properties by over 1,000% (ten times actual value)
Multiple legal experts predict that Trump will lose on appeal.
Trump is fucked.
Lastly, you don’t bring a case against a former president unless it’s airtight. It is highly likely that Trump loses every one of the cases brought against him, including both Jack Smith cases (J6 and documents), the Georgia voter subversion case, and the NY hush money case.
The first 3 have the potential for prison sentences.
And this criminal loser is the GOP frontrunner for president. What a joke.
I think I said that it isn’t fair since he already decided summary judgment for the prosecution in this case. Despite that, you still thought Trump would get out of this.
he's already had some decent success on the next level of appeals...BUT i am assuming it gets taken down greatly on the very next level of appeals...but this has at least 3 more levels to go...if they decide to take it up...they might not and then you can have the 50
you got no shot though
the only thing in your FAVOR now is that trump needs to get a 400m plus expensive bond while this thing is in appeals
Even if Taylor Swift rubbed pussy juice on those sneakers.........who the hell is gonna buy them?
Classic Trump bad taste, everything is gold-plated.
It's like over-the-top King Louis XIV.......but even GOLDERER lol
The only Trump place I've been in is the one in NYC, talk about awful taste this guy has.
His course in RPV is fun though, great views
Story is he has a super-fast golf cart, so he can tee off then race over and find his "ball" in the hole. You just know it wasn't the ball he hit off the tee. Not that cheating at golf is any big deal for these narcissists, Clinton was a huge cheater at golf.
And, Obama was just plain shitty at it, so didn't bother to cheat. The Bushes could get around a course in like hour and a half lol.........how the fuck you do that???
So, this is the $500 million Presidential election run.........and counting
"So, you are saying I could go to the bank and say my current house is worth $500 million and the lender will accept that...."
No, the point is; the INSTANT you submit an application for a loan with fraudulent information (overstated values) you have committed a crime. It doesn't matter what happens after that. It doesn't matter that there were no real perceived damages or victims. The only thing that matters is INTENT. And when more than one person is involved with such a misrepresentation then it becomes a CONSPIRACY.
For over 40 years we have heard that the mere possession of illicit and illegal substances is a "victimless crime". And that may be true to some extent - but it is still a crime!
Probably 80% of all regular home mortgage applications are overstated to some extent. Of course we want to prepare the field for getting our loan application accepted. But we don't go on an international stage, put on a coat with a target on our back, then intentionally insult and degrade sitting law makers that have real power.
As a normal citizen having not been in any political office, DJT could be sitting in Trump Towers right now and laughing his ass off at all the BS happening around him and this country. He could be committing "victimless crimes" every day and it would go unnoticed. As a well recognized billionaire, he would have a voice in his political party. With his wealth he could influence elections (the legal way). But due to his monstrous ego, he just had to put that coat on and run for president.
No wonder the hot daughter is not pleased with him - he is in the process of squandering away every bit of his empire, his net worth, and all of the the kids' inheritance!
Massive strategic blunder on his part!
For that enormous mistake alone, he should be viewed as not having the intelligence to be leader of the free world - especially now that his grifting will need to kick into high gear in order to save his empire, and the kids' inheritance.
DJT for President! - great idea - disastrous outcome! Let's move on! How about them Chiefs?
^^ and the best way to substantiate a value is to have an impending escrow or purchase agreement for a certain purchase price (doesn't matter if the escrow ultimately doesn't go through). That is hard to argue against because they would need to prove that the buyer has no intention of going through with the purchase.
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50 bucks each case i believe. maybe there was a 50buck bonus to SWEEP all 4 cases