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I’ll be the first to contribute to this topic.
Loser/criminal Trump admits conspiring with Russia and Saudi Arabia to increase oil prices. This is the loser some of you still support.
Short video of Trump linked.
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And the more than slightly embarrassing video (linked) from yesterday’s Robert Her special counsel hearing.
Yeah….Biden is more demented than Trump?
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that's all you got on the oil thingy...any other context at the time of the call?
funny how those little things are like proof to you...but you know better than that and that is the problem. there is a word for it and you know it...what's the word again?
just like you think everyone on the other side is a lost cause, you my friend, have ramped it up to the levels of a maddow and stephanopoulos ....sure your lil girl buddy will be chiming in very soon with her lil comrade chirping
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So Trump LITERALLY SAYING that he got on a conference call with Russia and Saudi Arabia to cut oil production to increase the price of oil ON VIDEO isn’t enough proof?
It really is laughable to hear the ridiculous excuses that you people give to loser Trump.
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@Insearchofstarfish
We must be reading different tea leaves!
Comrade Trump barely won the 2016 election - even he was surprised by it.
Comrade Trump lost the 2020 election.
I have to believe that more people have abandoned Comrade Trump's cult because of his crazy rants, questionable dealings, and mental degradation than have gravitated to support him because he is "being persecuted."
Comrade Trump's popularity is strictly amongst the MAGA base, which is being eroded every day. A large part of that base is "die hard" and will never abandon him, but a small percentage are being swayed to leave the cult due to his legal troubles and crazy shenanigans.
Comrade Trump's largest donors are leaving the cult!
I see a trend, and it isn't in favor of Comrade Trump (thank God!) This could very well be one of the biggest landslide victories ever for the Dems, even if Biden is the nominee for the Dems (but watch for an 11th hour surprise and substitution). And with Reps leaving congress because they want no part of where the RNC is headed, Dems are poised to score the trifecta; control of the house, the senate, and the oval office. When that happens, the MAGA base will have no one to blame but themselves for voting for an unelectable crazy criminal and letting the Dems take control.
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for being so smart...which you are...makes you trying to make a case out of this oil thingy pretty fucking stupid
what is the fucking context of it? you know exactly what it was and that your MO all the time. what is the word again?
you two really need to get together btw
that is how you win president btw. as a GOP candidate...you just know the popular vote and electorals of NY/CA are going to the left. factor out those loony numbers and get a better picture
so how many votes in the states in the states that matter?
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Why is Trump working with Russia and Saudi Arabia to increase the price of Oil a bad thing?
you realize that Oil is essentially the most important resource on the planet? It is vital to keep the price within appropriate ranges or the whole world economy collapses.... Cant be too expensive and cant be too cheap
Trump is more popular now than he's ever been, if the election were held today polling shows it would be an absolute landslide for Trump. Not only is Trump/MAGA more popular than ever but the slaves are leaving the democratic plantation en masse. Everyone know the Economy sucks, the Border is wide open and its all sleepy Joes fault.
Also Trump has once again been vindicated against the fake media, Haiti is and always was a shit hole country.
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"Yeah….Biden is more demented than Trump?"
How can you seriously claim that Biden is in better mental health than Trump?
what drugs are you smoking? maybe your on the same meth that have Biden hopped up on..... You could really see the cocktail wearing off towards the end of the SOTU address.
Hur literally declined to prosecute Biden for crimes he admitted to committing because he was to old and mentally unfit to prove intent... Biden is clearly deteriorating at a rapid rate and probably wont stay alive much longer 1 to 2 years tops. Just compare Biden today to Biden from the 2020 debates...
Pretty sure the Secret service did not have a strategy for cleaning the Presidents ass when he shits himself under Trump like they do with Biden, who has shit himself several times. lol anyone who supports Biden is low IQ
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I guess TOS no longer applies? Jesus.
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High oil prices is one of the the primary cause for rising inflation (increased transportation costs gets passed down the the consumer). This time around, it is also due to corporate greed.
One of Trump’s biggest claims is that Biden cut oil production, which is not true. More oil has been pumped out of the ground over the last two years than when Trump was president. So that talking point is a flat out lie.
As Marrisa said, Trump is very popular with his MAGA base, but he’s absolutely hated by independents, Democrats, and at least 15-20% of Republicans. He has no way of winning in 2024, except if RFK, Jr. siphons off votes from Biden. Or, as Marrisa said, Biden is replaced by a more viable candidate.
But the real issue is why continue to support Trump when he is a seriously flawed candidate who makes no attempt to win over new voters?
The GOP is fucked. It has essentially no money left, Trump is hated, conservative policies are hated, etc. MSM keeps on lying that the race is close to keep ratings high. Democrats will likely make a clean sweep in November and most of you who aren’t delusional know it.
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"High oil prices is one of the the primary cause for rising inflation (increased transportation costs gets passed down the the consumer). This time around, it is also due to corporate greed."
so your claiming that Trump preventing oil from going beneath the minimum price 6-7 years ago is the cause for todays high gas prices and inflation?
its incredible that your vote is worth just as much as mine.. there needs to a cognitive test to vote
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yep, you nailed it again
that was perfect
nicely illustrated your M/O
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Well here are a couple of things that might pop up in the near future:
Comrade Trump's attempted (or actual) interference with the price of oil could be to bolster Russia's economy so they can continue to wage war in the Ukraine until Comrade Trump regains the oval office, at which time he can really help Russia out by cutting off all military aide to the Ukraine and let Russia roll over them. There will be no need to withdraw from NATO at that point as NATO will simply self-implode when they can no longer count on the US to stand up to NATO's arch enemy. The Balkans will be next, with no one to help them.
When an American citizen, even if they are an ex-president, puts themselves into the mix of international affairs important to the US without the US's knowledge or consent, then is that citizen not a "foreign agent?" Or worse, a traitor?
Similar to the border deal that went sideways; Comrade Trump does not want to see a "win" for the existing administration. Conspire to keep oil prices high now and wait for people to forget that it was his doing. Then, months later, just before the election, conspire again to get the price of oil down. Blame Biden for the high costs and take credit for the low costs. Typical Comrade Trump tactic.
Can anyone else come up with an alternate possible explanation for Comrade Trump's actions in this matter except for helping Russia or intentionally hurting the current administration? It seems pretty clear to me that it has to be one or the other (or possibly both). Dirty politics has always been a plaque in this country but this brings it to a whole different level.
Watch for Comrade Trump to get indicted yet again for operating as a foreign agent without registering (remember Michael Flynn?) and undermining the economic policies of the US. And that is not some made-up bullshit either. He did it and admitted it.
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just fucking wow
holy shit
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pay attn
we are talking about trump's call to putin and mbs
just keep using the comrade...credibility was gone many moons ago
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“ its incredible that your vote is worth just as much as mine.. there needs to a cognitive test to vote”
The gaslighting is strong with this one. I’ve always claimed MAGA supporters are too dumb to vote. You know that Trump supporter’s main primary is uneducated white folks, right? He likes them dumb because he can say anything he wants and you don’t give a shit.
Grab them by the pussy. No problem!
He likes dictators like Putin, Xi, Kim Jung Un, and Vikter Orban! No problem!
Bleach and sunlight kills Covid! No problem.
A nuclear bomb would stop hurricanes (my personal favorite). No problem!!
He beat Obama to become president! No problem!
I can go on….
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this one simple trump thread alone exposes both of you for the crap you keep throwing out there
i guess if you don't follow along, you can keep piling on the useless comments and links with trump/hitler/comrade thing and people will just go away
mighta taken ya 2minutes, but too lazy i guess
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yep, more of that exact thing
i guess context was not coming on this thing?
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Sorry to burst your partisan bubbles but here is what most Independents, and yes that would be me, are going to vote on. 1: Energy; 2: Housing; 3: Food; 4: National Security. We are not going to vote on the Person running for office. We fell for that last time. And since the costs for the first 3 have increased by 15 to 25 percent under Biden, the fact that we are closer to WW3 than we have ever been, most of us will hold are nose and vote for Trump. It's sad that we have officially been given the two worst choices for President in my lifetime.
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i would go with keeping american citizens safe as the number one item in that list
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^ I will agree with you on that!
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that's a positive 
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This place has turned into an 8th grade classroom.
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too generous
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Hyder Tos'es but I agree with him on this one
MA has to be chatbot bait
As for this election, America loses either way..........
Time Required to Reach Total US Debt Levels:
OF:
$10 Trillion - 232 years
$20 Trillion - 9 years
$30 Trillion - 5 years
Last Trillion - 100 days
Latest Level - $34.4 Trillion and counting
I don't see either of these 2 bitches solving this problem
Or, a host of others that they actually make worse every day they continue to breathe oxygen
Have a very nice day
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I guess you think that supporting dictators and pushing for Putin to win, to the detriment of all Western democracies, is keeping American safe? How about pulling out of NATO and saying that Putin can do whatever the fuck he wants? Where’s the logic in that statement?
What the conservatives are bitching about here is that we are calling you out with facts. They do matter and you can’t deal with it.
Blaming Biden for rising prices and the wars that have occurred during his tenure is at the very least ill-informed and is likely disingenuous. I guess that whole “Covid thing” didn’t affect prices. The wise would compare inflation rates and economic performance with every other developed economy.
The U.S. economy fared much better than every other country, or do you blame Biden for every other country’s economic downfall as well? What Biden achieved (vis-a-vis the fed/interest rate hikes, infrastructure spending, and other governmental programs) from keeping our economy from falling into recession is remarkable. Even Republicans admit that now.
As for wars, the Orange Genius said he’d essentially give Ukraine to Russia if he became president again by cutting off all aid to Ukraine. Brilliant.
That would make Americans safer! Yeah, helping our enemy is just proof that he’s a traitor and his stupid base doesn’t give a shit.
ISOS, I know you support Ukraine. At the very least concede what a piece of shit Trump is for that fact alone.
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Well Marrisa there are a few problems with your comment:
This call with Russia and Saudi apparently happened in the beginning of 2020, so while Trump was president.
Russia has already won the war in Ukraine, Ukraine lost, Russia has gained control of all the land they wanted. There is a good chance the actual fighting will stop before the election unless NATO puts troops on the ground
The failed "border deal" was a huge win for America, it would have been devastating if that bill passed, the majority of the funding in that bill was for Ukraine lol
the "alternate possible explanation for Comrade Trump's" is this call happened during COVID when oil price was at extreme lows and American Refineries were on the brink of bankruptcy because they could not afford to stay in business with such low prices.....
"You know that Trump supporter’s main primary is uneducated white folks, right"
Classic low IQ move to equate Intelligence with education. Intelligence can not be taught, education does not make you more intelligent, in fact judging by the majority of recent college grads I would say "Education" makes you objectively less intelligent and less capable with dealing with reality. Why do so many service workers have a college degree in a field they have no chance of making money in?
"Grab them by the pussy. No problem!" A joke said to lighten the mood before going on live TV
"He likes dictators like Putin, Xi, Kim Jung Un, and Vikter Orban! No problem!" I dont even know what to say about this, being respectful to other world leaders is beneficial when engaging in diplomacy with other nations...
"Bleach and sunlight kills Covid! No problem." Literally citing published papers on the potential to use both bleach and UV to kill viruses in the body.
"A nuclear bomb would stop hurricanes (my personal favorite). No problem!!" wasn't even his idea but an old military concept thought of decades before.
"He beat Obama to become president! No problem!" what? im going to assume this was joke that you didnt understand lol
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"I guess you think that supporting dictators and pushing for Putin to win, to the detriment of all Western democracies, is keeping American safe? How about pulling out of NATO and saying that Putin can do whatever the fuck he wants? Where’s the logic in that statement?"
That was warning of what would happen if the other NATO members dont pay their fair share, a very reasonable threat, if I dont pay rent I get evicted, if NATO doesn't pay for protection then they dont get protected..
"As for wars, the Orange Genius said he’d essentially give Ukraine to Russia if he became president again by cutting off all aid to Ukraine. Brilliant."
You're right its much better that all the young men of Ukraine died. Go watch the latest Ukraine recruitment videos its all middle aged men, because the young men are all dead. All those men would still be alive today if the west didn't fund their futile attempts fight back. Even better all those men would be alive if NATO didn't keep pushing east like the promised not to decades ago.
Ukraine never stood a chance and was thrown into the meatgrinder so that corrupt US politicians and the military industrial complex could make money. literally the Ukrainian people as an ethnicity essentially dont exist any more, they are endangered and soon to be extinct due to a lack of young men. Trump really is an idiot for not wanting people to die..
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You’re so breathtakingly dumb that you wrote these gems:
The failed "border deal" was a huge win for America
Literally citing published papers on the potential to use both bleach and UV to kill viruses in the body.
"A nuclear bomb would stop hurricanes (my personal favorite). No problem!!" wasn't even his idea but an old military concept thought of decades before.
"He beat Obama to become president! No problem!" what? im going to assume this was joke that you didnt understand lol
- So, the border isn’t an issue. Good to know.
- Which fucking published papers claim that using bleach and UV light kills viruses in the body, and more specifically, maybe be used to kill the Covid virus?
- An old military concept is to use a NUCLEAR bomb to wipe out hurricanes were the radiation fallout would likely contaminate thousands of miles with radiation. Brilliant.
- Yes, it’s always a joke to cover up stupidity. Trump wasn't joking. No one took it as a joke. Trump is losing it as evidenced by the video I first linked in this blog.
Seriously, you proved how smart Trump supporters are. Maybe think a little before posting.
And, dumb fuck, if Ukraine falls (1) that increases Russia’s power and resources (Russia is our sworn enemy), (2) Putin already said that his plan is to reconstitute the USSR, so Hungry, Poland, Romania, etc. will be his next target, and then (3) we find ourselves in another Cold War where trillions of dollars will be spent. Trillions, not billions.
You’re a moron. Just accept it.
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Bro I'm so much smarter than you its not even funny haha ok its a little funny
" So, the border isn’t an issue. Good to know."
No the border is a HUGE deal and needs to be closed ASAP, the "border bill" would have dont nothing to help the border, it would allow up to 5000 people to enter a day and it would increase funding to help process the illegals, that's a HUGE loss for America, we need funding at the border to STOP people from entering not giving them free stuff once they enter. And on top of that the "border bill' would give 10s of billions to Ukraine and billions to Israel. It wasn't even a border bill they just called it that so they could blame republicans for not "fixing" the border, thats obvious to any with room temp IQ
"Which fucking published papers claim that using bleach and UV light kills viruses in the body, and more specifically, maybe be used to kill the Covid virus?"
Google it, there is plenty of research into these technologies. Trump just brought up some new interesting Ideas to Fauci and Birx to see if they were possibly applicable...
"An old military concept is to use a NUCLEAR bomb to wipe out hurricanes were the radiation fallout would likely contaminate thousands of miles with radiation. Brilliant."
Yes the military conducted some studies to see if this was a viable option in the past, the conclusion was it wasn't worth the radiation risk, but now we have nuclear bombs that dont produce radiation. so its not a terrible idea and it was just an idea, He didn't do it, why advisors if your not allowed to spitball ideas? are you that closedminded lmao
"Yes, it’s always a joke to cover up stupidity. Trump wasn't joking. No one took it as a joke. Trump is losing it as evidenced by the video I first linked in this blog."
Not even worth discussing if your claiming that Biden is mentally fit and Trump isn't, No matter how bad you claim Trump is Biden is exponentially worse. Biden has shit his pants several times.
"And, dumb fuck, if Ukraine falls (1) that increases Russia’s power and resources (Russia is our sworn enemy), (2) Putin already said that his plan is to reconstitute the USSR, so Hungry, Poland, Romania, etc. will be his next target, and then (3) we find ourselves in another Cold War where trillions of dollars will be spent. Trillions, not billions."
1 Why is Russia our sworn enemy? do you even know?
2 Putin never said that, US media literally made that up. lol Putin has explicitly stated several times that there is no plans beyond Ukraine UNLESS NATO gets involved.
3 not sure if you know what a cold war is, but if Russia does invade a NATO state its gonna be a HOT war haha and you call me dumb.
not only am I smarter than you I'm also taller 
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you have about 5 pages of those trump lists just ready for cut and paste?
that and the comrade thing has run it course...don't you think
the putin/mbs call about oil treasonous? is that what you guys wrote?
tell us what you liked exactly about the border bill. with immigration in the title you can kinda get excited by it
is that the one that was like 118b? early last month? think senate put out new bill...without the immigration component
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Pluto....I assume that you're fucking with me because no one can be this dumb. Seriously, there is no other explanation for the stupid shit you just wrote.
- All nuclear weapons emit radiation
- Ingesting bleach is lethal or will severely burn your esophagus (please don't listen to idiots)
- The border bill was considered to be the most restrictive ever negotiated. It was the best deal that Republicans could ever dream of negotiating.
- To claim that Putin isn't our enemy is just mind-blowing.
No one could (or should) discuss anything with anyone who makes up facts to support their arguments. And if you really do believe everything you wrote, then you need more help than you know.
What I suspect is that we've devolved to this because Trump is indefensible and unelectable.
Since your clown will obviously lose, why not fuck with people, right?
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because i am pro-war...for jerking putin off, weakening him...it's the best bang for the buck. yes, i would rather there was no war and my friends in ukraine can survive and get back to a semblance of life...they have seen and experienced very brutal things in one of the worst parts of ukraine
i like the message it sends to china...the world response has made them think that shit over
i also liked the situational dynamic of being played out where fixing our own country's shit is being highlighted and able force some give and take
the result of the give and take? funny shit
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you are going to be a real unhappy person in about 8months or so
probably should calm down...and especially if you are soo sure that is going to be the result. take a few trips to asia, amsterdam...meet a chick and have some offspring. you can find them like 50 percent of your age in asia
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Listening to some of the libs write the things they write, helps me to understand why California has the problems it has.
Just sad that people can dislike an individual so much that it prevents them from seeing the big picture.
We need a moderate party, The democrats are too far left, and the Republicans are too far right... sad
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tucker*** and cuomo had a good little 2hr chat the other day
cuomo on pbd was pretty decent, but he still can't get to voter ID 
HB passed voter ID
in the meantime, AG Garland pledges to fight voter ID laws
makes no fucking sense. or maybe it does
i found tucker's advice to yn g people pretty eyeopening -- have offspring and lots of them and as early as you can...even before college
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"Pluto....I assume that you're fucking with me because no one can be this dumb. Seriously, there is no other explanation for the stupid shit you just wrote"
Of course I'm fucking with you lol I am also correct
" All nuclear weapons emit radiation"
certain vegetables emit radiation... lol so its all relative. there are many different types of nuclear bombs, some are built to maximize deadly radiation and other are designed to minimize deadly radiation. these bombs designed to produce as little radiation as possible, yes technically still produce radiation but not enough to cause nuclear fallout and would probably be safe and effective to nuke a hurricane. The point still stands that Trump was throwing out old ideas to see if they were plausible and his advisers decided against it, how does that make Trump stupid? The idea has enough merit that the military had previously looked into it, is the Military Intelligence just as dumb as Trump in your opinion? You only think that Trump is stupid for talking about this idea because you were told to think that Trump was stupid by the talking guy on TV lol
"Ingesting bleach is lethal or will severely burn your esophagus (please don't listen to idiots)"
literally no one ever suggested ingesting bleach, that's called a strawman argument and your attacking a strawman argument because you're not smart.
"The border bill was considered to be the most restrictive ever negotiated. It was the best deal that Republicans could ever dream of negotiating."
Now that is just insanity, it was absolutely not the most restrictive border bill ever negotiated, how can it be restrictive if they are going to let 5000 people a day into the country? The scary part tho is I believe that you believe that. which just goes to show that you are not living in reality but a world created for you by the media who manipulate and use you for their own purposes, and these people lying to you also hate your guts.
"To claim that Putin isn't our enemy is just mind-blowing."
Why is it so important the Putin is our enemy? He a lot closer to Europe, if he is anyone's enemy its them not us.
But really since your such a bright guy can you explain why it is so important to be enemies with Putin?
"What I suspect is that we've devolved to this because Trump is indefensible and unelectable.
Since your clown will obviously lose, why not fuck with people, right?"
all the polling shows that Trump wins big, and unless Trump is killed somehow, he will in all likelihood win the 2024 election
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"We need a moderate party, The democrats are too far left, and the Republicans are too far right... sad"
Its an objective fact that the Republicans have moved closer to the center in the last 30 years, that just goes to show how powerful the democrats are at forcing the narrative, they have you convinced that moderate republicans have moved far right. IMO they are nearly right enough, I mean just look at Fox news they are practically liberal and pro-trans
"cuomo on pbd was pretty decent, but he still can't get to voter ID "
they way Cuomo shut down that short dumbass, Adam I think, made me like Cuomo haha
To anyone who is paying attention and really watches the online media, its very obvious that everyone is abandoning the far left/woke agenda because it IS failing.
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No the border is a HUGE deal and needs to be closed ASAP, the "border bill" would have dont nothing to help the border, it would allow up to 5000 people to enter a day and it would increase funding to help process the illegals, that's a HUGE loss for America, we need funding at the border to STOP people from entering not giving them free stuff once they enter. And on top of that the "border bill' would give 10s of billions to Ukraine and billions to Israel. It wasn't even a border bill they just called it that so they could blame republicans for not "fixing" the border, thats obvious to any with room temp IQ
Hoo boy. Ok. Wow.
First of all the border bill does not allow 5000 people a day to enter the country. It shuts the border down after a 7 day average of 5000 border ENCOUNTERS occur. An encounter rarely means entry. This stratagem was devised in coordination with border enforcement officials. It is what they wanted.
They also want more funding to process migrants, more judges, more officers, more resources to deport. Processing is a 2 way door. Catch and release would be finished. Deportation would occur in 15 days unless asylum claims can be proven to all those new judges from all those new detention centers where they can not leave.
All of that is gone now because Putins bitch told his bitches not to give Biden a win. He said that out loud.
Ask yourself. If the Republican bill is a win for Biden then how is it a bad bill from the conservative viewpoint? Sometimes deductive reasoning is your friend.
The border bill was everything Republicans have ever asked for and more. They do not want to take yes for an answer because they care nothing about the border except to the extent that they can use it as an election issue. Democrats govern. Republicans campaign.
As far as your inexpert evaluation of other peoples IQ is considered I would first recommend that you learn proper English grammar and that secondly you read about what you think you are angry about before you get angry. You might be pleasantly surprised.
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^ Hey Yappy! How are ya?
Thought you should know *tldr on your drivel.
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I'm so sorry, Yappy..........here you go!
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Trump Wins
11/6/2024 = The day all of the Liberals are crying and threatening to leave the USA !!!
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11/6/2024 = Rahcrener applies for citizenship to Canada.
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^ Where there is a REAL authoritarian government. But it's a leftist one, so that's ok.
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Oh, and as long as I'm here ...
go fuck yourself, MA1.
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they have laws on the books now that would curb the illegal flow and they aren't using them...maybe if biden had stopped the flow last year? this type of deal could have gotten thru
the lesson was learned already with this type of thing with reagan
unless you have a wall and make people come thru legal entry points? it's all bullshit, they will just keep doing what they're doing and the money will have been wasted
some of the problem is not letting them do their jobs...so this could be more of the same shit with extra people hired.
i propose this
2years of funding....take it or leave it and go fuck yourselves
60billion for ukraine
35billion for israel and other countries...part of that 118b deal
45billion for border...north and south. 25billion for wall and proper technology....20billion (that was part of the 118b plan for the other shit they wanted to do)
if you can't give america HALF what you are doing on the outside...forget it.
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border security would pay for itself rather easily...just start taxes the remittances. if they file taxes, they can get a credit for part of taxes paid
mexico was pretty helpful back in 2019/2020...see how helpful they are on the shit being sent over the border and back to controlling the flow people coming to cross into america
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Great ... the rematch 70% of the electorate DOESN'T want.
What a cluster fuck.
Atticus Finch
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when was last time people were excited?
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we shall see...polls are showing something of a change this time around
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