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Cataleya
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Mar 24 2024 01:31PM more by Cataleya
Tags: Orange County, Random (All tags)

...The difficulty with texting appropriately for appointments.
after all these years you guys are still texting randomly for the first time, "hey available"

who is this? available when? where? how long? for whaaaaaat??

why is that never included in the text?

want to do all this back and forth when you could've been like:
Hey this is TomDicknHarry checking to see if you're available today in Westchestertonfieldville at 5 for an hour in..

why do we need to go back and forth asking who this is where did you see my ad and what do you actually want?!? all that can be stated in the first message!

WHAT IS THE ISSUE?!?!????? wasting time, that's why I don't respond because wtf? do you make hair or dr appointments like that? NO!
      
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remo_williams
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Mar 24 2024 01:58PM     link to this

I dunno, I'm sure it's frustrating, but some thoughts that are worth the price I'm charging.

Are you sure they are from HX and not elsewhere that you advertise? How do you know where they come from if all they say is "hey, available"?

You might consider removing your number from your advertisement and ONLY hand it out when someone PM's you here.

You might also consider adding a photo or two that will entice people to PM you..... sure you have an album for subscribers, but even that one is pretty generic, it dosen't entice me to reach out.

You've been around a long time, so I'm sure you know all this, and you have a nice level, so I don't mean to be anything other than helpful - as I'm sure you already know this and are just venting..... which I've seen many blogs (not this one) that are thinly veiled as advertisements, or just downright complaining, which is a bit of a turn off.

Best of luck to you!
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Mar 24 2024 02:08PM     link to this

They do it in pm too

20 pm's to figure it out and then they dont even want to meet today, but maybe in the future. Why they fuck you bugging me today then smh

I like when they especially ask where are you when its in the title of my fuckin ad and my ad is placed in that exact city.

Read people fuckin READ!!!

My advice for today
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Mar 24 2024 02:11PM     link to this

Sometimes we're just lonely.
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Mar 24 2024 02:16PM     link to this

i'll hold your hand for a small fee
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Mar 24 2024 02:18PM     link to this


I would suggest you not to engage with people texting you out of the blue. Only respond back asking them to PM you and then go radio silent. Then at least you know the profile theyโ€™re messaging you from is theirs. Otherwise you have absolutely zero idea as to who they are. Or if the phone number theyโ€™re texting from is even their actual phone number. No traceability to you so if something shady happens, you have absolutely zero recourse.

Not all money is good money. Protect yourself at all times.


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Mar 24 2024 02:28PM     link to this

But I like talking to weird people who text me
Cataleya
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Mar 24 2024 03:32PM     link to this

Yeah I don't respond, it says no handle no response but still people will text that and yes they're coming from this site lol

and IF I do respond I say pm me "I don't have privileges" welp that's too damn bad ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿพโ€โ™€๏ธ

I screen everyone idc
Cataleya
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Mar 24 2024 03:35PM     link to this

Im not trying to entice anyone to reach out from free albums because there are others for purchase with what you're looking for and I get plenty of traffic from what can be seen, I also have a club.
I have over 65k points from album purchases so im not worried about people who can't read lol
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Mar 24 2024 03:39PM     link to this

I find it confusing when a women has Las Vegas as her current profile location and ads for LA and OC, all at the same time. It does not make me want to send a PM.
Cataleya
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Mar 24 2024 03:40PM     link to this

@Jazzy it will literally say everything they need to know and they will still ask.
IGNORED.

the ad title will say available next week Tuesday after 3 prebooking
"hey available now?"

bruh, you couldn't even have contacted me without seeing that im not...

Cataleya
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Mar 24 2024 03:41PM     link to this

@bwana well sorry to tell you but you're confusing yourself lol. just because I mainly live in Vegas has nothing to do with where im posting...
Cataleya
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Mar 24 2024 03:44PM     link to this

you do realize LA and OC and SD are only an hour apart right? why can't I post ads for both places if I have a car?

I could post one for here and one for Texas and be available in both. what's a flight?
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Mar 24 2024 03:49PM     link to this

A truly frustrating first world problem.
The ladies have my condolences.
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Mar 24 2024 03:54PM     link to this

How about you old hags just retire? Problem solved
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Mar 24 2024 03:56PM     link to this

I have that happen too! However, I find that a very thorough first response lays out just about everything they would need to know except for the actual date and time. For the most part, this cuts down on unnecessary messaging back and forth.

If I get a long-winded person then I simply put them on the bottom of the list and get back to them when I get the chance. Statistically speaking, people that get right to the point about what they want are most likely to actually book a session (and show up), so they get my attention first.
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Mar 24 2024 04:02PM     link to this

But I am also reminded of what Wayne Gretzky said, "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take!" Well, you miss 100% of the clients you don't talk to, so I talk to all of them - but I will prioritize.
June.Moon
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Mar 24 2024 04:40PM     link to this

I definitely get it lol

I'll get texts to my number on my page like "hey are you available"


It's like umm who are you? Available where? Lol some men don't have etiquette and that's ok. Because no matter what, it takes nothing but common sense to say "hello this is xxxx".. "was wondering if you'll be available in xxxx at xxx time ? Thank you "

I don't think people realize that it only takes a few seconds to fix how you present yourself to a woman. It takes longer for the woman to have to correct every single man who does this.



But as for me I feel the best way to manage that is to put a template on your page . AND MEN, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE READ A WOMANS PAGE FIRST! I hate when I get messages asking if I'm available and my page literally says that I'm not ....




But regardless always be kind. Some men are either in a time crunch and don't care to look or simply just too excited and want to get straight to the point. Unless a guy is rude I say just redirect them if needed and always be polite (even when they don't deserve it lol)


Here's a template that ladies can use on their profiles


When contacting me, please answer the following questions:

-Name (if you're contacting me off of the site please list your handle as I need this information to move forward)
-Location
-Dates or Days available
-Time request
-Time restrictions (such as if you're only available in the mornings, nights or during lunch)
-Duration of time desired to spend

With this information it will help our interactions flow smoothly and in a timely manner. Hope to see you soon




Doesn't have to be exact but I hope it helps
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Mar 24 2024 04:41PM     link to this

Also men use that info when messaging ladies even if it's not on her profile


She will love you for it
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Mar 24 2024 04:50PM     link to this

@ Cataleya


At your price points you should expect a lot questions (as unfortunate as that is) ...



Money does not grow on trees, and guys are going to ask questions and a lot of them,
before they agree to drop 400 or more an hour, as yours or any other ladies service levels
do not increase by the dollar charged exponentially ...



More money always comes with more questions and more issues ...
Cataleya
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Mar 24 2024 05:54PM     link to this

@Edmond I think you misunderstood... it's the opposite that's happening.
Cataleya
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Mar 24 2024 05:56PM     link to this

@June thanks for the template! that's similar to my verification/appointment request form I send
to people from other sites.
Cataleya
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Mar 24 2024 06:03PM     link to this

I prefer quality over quantity so if I'm not in the budget for everyone that works out better for me because all of my clients are regulars and we have built wonderful relationships, that's why I haven't seen anyone new in a while..

And that too, why is 4 high? That's extremely low to me...
I'm only considered high because everyone else is so much less, but why?
if we made it cost more they'd have no choice but to pay more, I start at 7 elsewhere, this is the only site where the men get their way, I shouldn't have to come all the way down to 4 or everyone should be coming up to 4 at least, sheesh!
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Mar 24 2024 06:43PM     link to this

The market will bare only what the market will bare. One person's inexpensive is anothers "way to much". We fall into that trap when asked for 1k.
Guys spend time fishing for what they want to spend.
Don't want endless texts? Dont post your number. Set rules and stick to them, regardless of your current need for cash. Or don't complain.
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Mar 24 2024 06:47PM     link to this

lol I make sure to keep it as simple as possible. I get the info from the profile/ad, DM for menu, MAYBE ask one question about something, then text for the specific appointment.

I don't know how it would get more complicated than that
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Mar 24 2024 07:37PM     link to this

Ladies I want to apologize for all the silly questions I asked.
I really wanted Luo's phone number. I believe I have found his lost car.

I would have sent him a PM but i don't have that privilege since I'm too cheap to support the site.
Jazzy I may have sent you a marriage proposal.
I'm not I'm not sure when you said that you did not take sand to the beach whatever that means.

Are you sure this blog belongs in RA?
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Mar 24 2024 08:21PM     link to this

Its been 14 years.
Put instructions in your ad, and ignore that which does not comply.
Rules are for everyone, and often work.

And I challenge you to get from McCarran to LA or OC (once you walk in) unless than 2 hours.
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Mar 24 2024 08:21PM     link to this


Dear OP,

This is a public service announcement,

Do you not understand whose on the top of this food chain ...Hint it you or any other provider?

If OP truly ever had a fucking job...what would it be?

Go back to flipping burgers, selling pencils, eating her dude ass, or whatever else you did way back in the day to support herself way back when she had a real job and paid fing taxes?

That offering an overpriced ego and overvalued kooter aint a real job or part of anyone's discretionary spending.

That the words time waster should probably never be something she says out loud.

That if it weren't all for all those wasters she would be broke.

Stop talking and that a cock hotster is a much better use of her big mouth.



Aside from a couple of douchebag white knight sons of bitches here that she's completely out of pocket?

And that, no pain in her rapidly aging hook$r ass compares evidently to the massive entitlement and neverending pain in the ass that she and those like her here on HX represent?

And in conclusion, i say respectfully and lovingly, please.... STFU
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Mar 24 2024 08:27PM     link to this

and if that were even close to being true there would be no need or reason for this blog you dumb bish...are you that stupid that you think we believe that ..let me guess next lie will be you love what you do?
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Mar 24 2024 08:33PM     link to this


"I prefer quality over quantity so if I'm not in the budget for everyone that works out better for me because all of my clients are regulars and we have built wonderful relationships, that's why I haven't seen anyone new in a while.."

and if that were even close to being true there would be no need or reason for this stupid blog OP....are you that stupid that you think we believe that ..let me guess. The next lie will be selling is that you love what you do?


sorry for the rant but I cant help myself ...
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Mar 24 2024 09:02PM     link to this

That's why your business acumen is so fucked up Cataleya !!!



Fuck you and any other stupid business person that thinks you can just raise prices
and the consumer is " Just going to have to Pay " !!! Fuck that shit !!!



You raise prices, you better expect a lot more scrutiny from the consumer and a lot less business !!!



You're one of the cheapest ladies out there when you're spending your own money, you don't go into Nordstrom's or Dillard's or Macy's or Bloomingdales , and give your credit card to them and tell them to charge whatever they feel like charging you !!!
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Mar 24 2024 09:29PM     link to this

Iโ€™ve never understood why 2 people can make this process of scheduling an appointment so tedious. I give credit where credit is due thereโ€™s some ladies Iโ€™ve met have made the process so chill. Perfect scenario I inquire about a time and I receive confirmation followed with the location (w/o asking for it) just like that perfect execution. The details are everything makes communication so simple.
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Mar 24 2024 10:14PM     link to this

"prefer quality over quantity so if I'm not in the budg"

The problem with this statement is you need quantity in order to make money not quality. Then you women wonder why you have to come on a random website complaining while you're all broke, washed up and have to sell your bodies until you are senior citizens.
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Mar 24 2024 10:21PM     link to this

The first sign of a bottom feeder pro is one who has to go online whining and complaining about dumb shit. Pros who are successful and really making money getting what they want have no need to be on some hookr website whining and complaining like a spoiled brat.
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Mar 25 2024 07:02AM     link to this

Jazzy makes me feel special when she texts me back.
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Mar 25 2024 09:07AM     link to this

I have to agree with OP, "you don't undersatnd".

Not saying it's the nicest or most personal approach but "Are you available" may be the most straight forward approach.

Doesn't matter if you are posting in the same zip code 5 minutes earlier, you may be booked, or you may not respond, or you may respond with "Why can't you fkn read my profile". In any of these cases we've spent all of of 5 seconds determining it's not happening.

And honestly, if we provide more info some of you will just blog and complain about messages that are too long.

If you can force yourself to be kind, polite, even sexy, then we have established communication and can get to the next step. Its cost of doing business, stop complaining... you have time to blog so ...?


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Mar 25 2024 09:15AM     link to this

All she asked was for men to adjust how they contact women and boy do y'all prove the point


Instead of acknowledging the issue and coming together so we can all resolve the problem, y'all would rather be entitled and leave rude comments and it's crazy



This process shouldn't be this hard

Like think about it, If a girl randomly texts a guy like hey are you available, come over you're going to be like wait who is this? Come where ? And it usually leads to more questions


Even sending a pm like hey are you available will lead to way more questions and issues than just saying 'hey can i see you in Newport at 4pm" ...




All you have to do is follow the template I wrote when contacting a lady . No need to be rude
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Mar 25 2024 09:18AM     link to this

"Where are you?"

It is important. You could be in Irvine and be at Irvine Spectrum or at John Wayne Airport, nearly 10 miles and 20 minutes apart.

You could also be in Costa Mesa at the Enclave, or in the Northwest corner of Costa Mesa, again about 20 minutes apart.

We're out here, and have to plan to get there on time. Most of the time, we're not right across the street.

It would be helpful in your description to say, "I'm near Cheesecake Factory" or "Nearby cross streets are 'Beverly and Rampart.'" These cities are big and traffic is tough!
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Mar 25 2024 09:23AM     link to this

The last time I did that someone ended up contacting all of the hotels in that area to find me








I wouldn't recommend doing that but that's just me
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Mar 25 2024 09:27AM     link to this

I agree with YellowB2. Most cities are so large, getting from one end to the other could take 30-45 mins.
But you don't have to give the exact fwy exit or nearest cross street, but something within 3-5 miles radius would be nice.
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Mar 25 2024 10:38AM     link to this

"Empathy" goes both ways.

Girls will be more successful if they can try to understand what a guys is communicating to them in their first contact. E.g., "are you available?" He is obviously in "that mood" and has probably used this very short message to effectively contact multiple girls at the same time. Hence, you either engage them in conversation quickly or you will lose the opportunity to someone else. If they give a good amount of information about themselves and what they are looking for then they are obviously interested in seeing you, not just the first person available.

Guys will be more successful if they get straight to the point of what they want! Please understand that you may not be the only person the girl may be communicating with at the time and if she is popular she may be juggling several conversations going on at the same time. Hence, she gets frustrated in having to engage in conversations that drag on and on. Also, please keep in mind that independent girls can either be entertaining someone, or monitoring their emails and texts - but they can't do both at the same time. A delay in responding does not necessarily mean that they are ignoring you or not interested, they are just not going to be rude (and unprofessional) by interrupting the "moment" to check emails and texts.

EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION is the key, for both parties. Empathy makes it a lot easier.

Richard Nixon is credited with quipping I know you think you know exactly what you thought I meant to say, but what you fail to realize is what you heard is not what I meant at all. Using a little empathy in these blogs would significantly tone them down to a more civilized level.
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Mar 25 2024 11:03AM     link to this

Marissa, *chefs kiss*



As always you are so beautifully spoken and spot on!

Thank you ๐Ÿ’–


Cataleya
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Mar 25 2024 11:22AM     link to this

umm so inflation is a thing everywhere but here? ๐Ÿ˜‚

@Edmond what business sucks? I do not depend on this to support me or else you'd see me posted here more than once every 4 months, you are excused.

Not understanding your anger either and it's fine like I said the less weirdos the better lol.
All my guys love me I'm an ATF for a reason, I literally woke up to 44 unread messages from new ones and my club has how many members and counting?

spend 4 one time and you'll come back every single time I'm in town, there's a reason it costs so much and its not ran thru

so what was it you were saying?
Cataleya
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Mar 25 2024 11:32AM     link to this

The fact that you guys assume that this is the only way and place and forum to make $ is so weird ๐Ÿ˜‚
and that you want to argue instead of practicing proper scheduling etiquette to make it smoother for everyone is even worse.

This is just the only forum where the supply and demand is backwards because you guys feel entitled to cheap services. You never heard of the good, cheap, fast motto? you can't have all 3 lol.

And that same department store analogy you just tried to give works both ways, the prices are the prices, if you want to shop at Walmart then go ahead but I do in fact shop at the Wynn and Rodeo and you'll never see a sale or haggling there, its luxury and many of you have never been there because you know you can't afford it. So what's the problem? everything isn't meant for you, its not going to come down in price just so you can experience it, Chanel does not need your money I promise ๐Ÿ˜‡
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Mar 25 2024 11:36AM     link to this

so you can't see the clear instructions right above where you found my number?
just say you guys are doing exactly what you're doing here, that makes way more sense.

yes, its been all these years and still this is the only place some of you can flex any muscle and that's why you behave this way ๐Ÿฅด

To all the wonderful gentlemen who have real lives and don't come here just to entertain themselves attempting to belittle us, we love you! ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜
Cataleya
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Mar 25 2024 11:53AM     link to this

I'm not even posted in Vegas so I'm still not understanding the issue, if you don't travel outside of the county then say that, but I travel for real and that means I can wake up today and someone is offering me enough to be somewhere else so I'm going, why would I take my ad down if I'm still available there? Im by appointment only, I don't live in a hotel and am just available all day for "can I come now" people, I have a schedule, a life and other business this isn't my life or the only thing I do, I have a body sculpting & notary business, a member of ASCAP and I'm currently working on funding for a med-spa & parking garage, idk why you'd fix your mind to think this is all I do.

I went from Vegas to LA - St Tomas - St John - Miami - Beverly Hills - Corona in 6 days, nothing about me is regular or normal, hence the prices.

Instead of confusing yourself reading a location why would you not just ask?
Yes im available in both places because its nothing to move around!
Im not in OC or LA right now Im in Corona ๐Ÿคฃ

this small minded small bubble world you guys live in is scary lol
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Mar 25 2024 11:58AM     link to this

I get all that everyone says.
C u called us cheap u called us basically uneducated
And entitled.
You keep saying that they are many other sites where
People appreciate you and happy with your rates.
I have one question for you...
Why are you still here then?
Cataleya
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Mar 25 2024 12:07PM     link to this

I never said any of that and if you're not cheap then it didn't apply to you because who is us?
I'm speaking to specific people replying so why would you include yourself?

I'm still here for everyone else obviously.
For everyone in my club and my network, for all the new people who want to see me, vibe and make years long friendships.. have you not seen my network? my reviews? There are men I've met from here 10+ years ago who I still have relationships with, who can text me whenever and vise versa because my number has never changed.
I'm not just a service provider - we make connections, I remember everything about everyone, I genuinely get to know everyone I see and I am adored by plenty!
It's to the point I don't even need to post I just text when I'm in their town or they'll hit me when they're in mine. I am an ATF for a reason, that's not some self proclaimed title.

that's why I'm here.
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Mar 25 2024 12:12PM     link to this

Cat,

Your post has been Hijacked about things that were not the topic. The reason that men sometimes post "are you available" are that they are starting a conversation....not a transaction. This is your business, but it can be our intimacy. Have patience as we want to engage.

Just a different perspective.

And for the trolls...Get Off Of Her and let people have an opinion.

And to the haters, I don't care if you call me GAY or other names so don't waste your effort.
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Mar 25 2024 12:15PM     link to this

This blogs has too many tos violations.
Cataleya
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Mar 25 2024 12:17PM     link to this

Thanks Hyder, and I understand that completely. it's just the fact that they couldn't have found my number without skipping over the instructions on how to reach me.
I get very busy and I could be posted for multiple places, I also have severe ADHD so I need to compliance and organization or else I get overwhelmed and frustrated because now what could've been a simple conversation is now a nuisance because instructions weren't followed.
Someone I've seen before and have their number can do that easily, I already know where they're asking for and how long and what they like - but now I have to ask who is this, available where and all that when I barely had time to even check the message in the first place and left instructions that were blatantly ignored. I understand excitement and Im always happy to be considered, but please please please READ.

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