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Google Marc Rich gets pardoned by Bill Clinton.
That one is pretty out there on the scales of justice.
That having been said, there's been a lot of pretty crappy pardons from both Reps & Dems
"Marc Rich (born Marcell David Reich; December 18, 1934 – June 26, 2013) was an international commodities trader, financier, and businessman. He founded the commodities company Glencore, and was later indicted in the United States on federal charges of tax evasion, wire fraud, racketeering, and making oil deals with Iran during the Iran hostage crisis. He fled to Switzerland at the time of the indictment and never returned to the United States.[1] He received a widely criticized presidential pardon from President Bill Clinton, on his last day in office; Rich's ex-wife Denise had made large donations to the Democratic Party."
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^ Yep, it almost always involves money! Should that be considered "political corruption?"
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I would say so, yes.
Denise really laid it on thick with Hillary, made some big donations
Rich died free in Switzerland.
The next one that will be interesting is Hunter
If MA's baby daddy wins in November, will he pardon his own son after being convicted of multiple felonies?
That's a tough one right there, very hard to predict.
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I thought I heard that someone who committed the crimes that Hunter Biden did as a first offense would normally only get a slap on the wrist. If that's the case and he gets a convicted of a felony or felonies, then I can see Joe pardoning him and that would be just.
If the sentence Hunter receives is appropriate for the crimes he committed, then I think there is a justification for him to get the full sentence. I can still see Joe pardoning him, but that would be an unjust act.
I'm sure you've heard about this (linked):
Giuliani Spoke About Selling Pardons For $2 Million And Splitting Proceeds With Trump, Accuser Claims
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They can pardon all federal offenses done or that may be done. Except impeachment.
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Speaking of crimes Hunter committed...
A federal judge appointed by President Joe Biden has criticized the Department of Justice or DOJ for disregarding subpoenas related to Hunter Biden.
What Happened: U.S. District Judge Ana Reyes, a Biden appointee on the federal District Court in Washington, rebuked the DOJ for not complying with Hunter Biden subpoenas linked to the impeachment inquiry of President Biden. The judge pointed out the apparent double standard, as a former Donald Trump aide is currently imprisoned for a similar refusal to comply with Congress, reported Politico.
Reyes pointed out that Peter Navarro, a former Trump trade adviser, is currently incarcerated because of the legal action taken against him for failing to comply with a House subpoena. “And now you guys are flouting those subpoenas. … And you don't have to show up?”
The double standard is outrageous.
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I have a different question. Why is the president allowed to pardon anybody? What does that have to do with running the country?
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Excellent question. After what has gone on in the last 30 - 40 years with multiple presidents, along with what Biden may do, it should become clear to everyone that this is one of the biggest forms of political corruption ever!
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Governors and presidents should not be allowed to pardon anyone, except maybe a turkey on Thanksgiving. It is a much abused power imo.
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We know that the founding fathers were intentionally trying avoid the "king" situation but this is one of those things that makes me shake my head and say, "What the hell were they thinking?"
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There were a few articles that stated what the judge had done. Fuck the blue team
That being said the same judge admonished the red team.
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I think it is actually more important now, as the current administration has taken many political prisoners that will need to be pardoned if a reasonable President is elected.
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Harris?
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3 counts of gun posession:
WHAT ARE THE PENALTIES FOR 18 U.S.C. 922G?
If you're convicted of violating 18 U.S.C. 922(g), the general penalty is a prison sentence of up to 10 years and up to $250,000 in fines.
However, under the Armed Career Criminal Act (ACCA) of 1984, defined under 18 U.S.C. 924(e), if you have three or more convictions for certain violent felonies and serious drug offenses, a sentencing enhancement kicks in, which extends the sentence significantly.
Sentencing summary:
For general convictions under 18 U.S.C. 922(g) with no sentencing enhancement. the penalties include the following:
Up to 10 years in prison;
Up to three years of supervised release; and
Up to $250,000 in fines.
With the sentencing enhancement, the penalties include a mandatory minimum of 15 years in prison with no parole.
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9 counts tax related felonies:
The most common tax crimes are fraud and evasion. Evasion is when you willfully avoid filing or paying taxes, and fraud is when you deliberately lie or deceive the IRS. There are several different types of tax fraud including:
Failure to collect or pay tax.
Failure to file a return or supply requested information.
Fraudulent withholding exemption certificate or failure to supply information.
Fraudulent and false statements.
These crimes can lead to a prison sentence of up to five years and fines up to $250,000 for individuals and $500,000 for corporations.
To be convicted of these crimes, your behavior must be willful. Fraud and evasion are intentional. They are not the same as making a mistake on your return.
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As documented in his book, HB's behavior was willful and intentional to lie and deceive.
It doesn't really matter that he was having "personal issues" at the time or that somebody later loaned him the money to pay his taxes.
In all, sentencing guidelines go as high as a total of over 50 years unless you count the tax charges as concurrent. If convicted, I would expect somewhere between 3 to 7 years total, which means he likely serves only about 65 -75% of that in a Club Fed for non-violent types......like where Scam Bankrun-Fraud is going.
If you believe that "nobody is above the law", then clearly HB should pay his debt to society. Sad but true.......he's not a "bad" guy, just a broken toy. Joey Depends has been thru some sad family situations in his life.
Will Joe pardon?
Fuck if I know, definitely a bad look if he does.
If he wins.........hopefully, by November, he'll still remember who his son is.
What if HB is convicted AFTER Joe loses in November?
Wouldn't that be the shitz, lol
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Def stacking here but MG's pardons blog is interesting.
The more I think about it, I'd say Bribin' pardons his son.
First off, he'll be a lame-duck Presi and what's anybody gonna do about it?
Second, he can depend on the MSM to move on to the next big thing within weeks.
Sure, it'll be a crap footnote on his record like Marc Rich on Clinton's
But, in the long run........he won't give a shit
His only son will be out of jail with no record!
What would be really interesting is if State of CA were to pursue State charges for non-payment of taxes that Joe can't pardon lol
But, that'll never happen.
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Congratulations Goebbels you just crashed Wikipedia during your inglorious stampede towards intellectual mediocrity.
The answers to most of your questions Marissa are in Federalist Paper 74.
The pardon is embedded in English constitutional law like many other aspects of the American Constitution and its purpose is far from nefarious. In fact, it is a bulwark against injustice. And more. It provides the Executive with the ability to leverage confessions with clemency, to temper justice with mercy as a moral acknowledgment of changing values, and to protect citizens from institutional error and abuse.
From the Whisky Rebellion to Vietnam draft dodgers to the Confederate soldiers the pardon power has played no small role in cohering the Republic after times of national crisis.
If some presidents have seemingly abused it, well, welcome to life. I hope you enjoy your stay.
It is the overall goodness of a thing which matters more than its occasional defects.
As for your part 2 just keep in mind it would require a Constitutional Amendment to change any power expressly delegated by the Constitution. So there is that.
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"you just crashed Wikipedia during your inglorious stampede towards intellectual mediocrity."
Then you proceed to copy/paste the same, well played Yappy!
Do us a favor and go play in the freeway, thanks in advance. 
So, you're recommending clemency for our pharmaceutically addled HB?
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I wasn't going to post this, yet those with TDS may like something refreshing.
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Money is corruption
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NEVER
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They should limit ability to pardon during last year in office.
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Biden is going to pardon his whole family syndicate
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"There is disagreement about how the pardon power applies to cases involving obstructions of an impeachment. Also, the ability of a president to pardon themselves (self-pardon) has never been tested in the courts, because, to date, no president has ever taken that action. There has also been speculation as to whether secret pardons are possible."
If Trump wins, will he test the "self-pardon"?
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Holy shit, I think Hey1 might actually believe what he is typing. I feel sad for him.
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^ He might at that. But I just glance at his ramblings for the laugh.
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"obstructions of an impeachment"
Bullshit.
The Russia Collusion, Crossfire Huricane, the non-stop media bullshit, the Kavanaugh Appointment hearings, impeachment 1, Piglosi ripping the SOTU docs, the Plandemic, the orchestrated Fed insurrection, impeachment 2, the 'bipartisan' Jan 6 committee...
That was a willful obstruction of a Presidency.
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Be nice to Yappy, you guys.
He's a good dog..........noisy as fuck, but he means well.
Sometimes he digs under the fence at MA's house and gets loose in the community
But, he's a funny to watch..........in a pitiful sort of way.
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Rabbit
It’s so cool to know that people like you even exist. So fully wrong on essentially every level. Amazing.
Let’s go through an exercise.
Our positions are diametrically opposed to each other. One side must be wrong and the other side must be right.
One side has seen its president indicted on 88 criminal charges across four cases, many of those who worked for him have since been convicted of crimes, and many lawyers have been disbarred or are in the process of being disbarred for acts committed while representing him.
The other side has had none of that. Even the weakly contrived impeachment inquiry has stalled due to an embarrassing lack of concrete evidence, with the key witness confessing that he made up the Burisma scandal and admitted that he received the information from Russian intelligence
Based on that these facts, which side do you think is likely on the right side of these arguments? Who is likely right and who is likely wrong?
Isn’t the answer obvious?
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MA1,
I am sure you heard one of the talking heads on CNN or elsewhere saying that Hunter Biden would normally only get a light sentence as a first offender. That might be the case if Hunter had a high school diploma and ran a janitorial business.
However Hunter Biden is an attorney and the IRS and the DOJ love to go after attorneys because they have a very difficult time selling the jury on the idea that they were ignorant of the law. It is especially true when you are violating basic laws like a U.S. citizen is taxable on their worldwide income and the income in question comes from consulting fee, referral fees, commissions, etc.
Also Hunber Biden is a high profile defendant because he is related to the former Vice President and current President of the country.
The IRS loves to prosecute a few of these cases each year and have the book thrown at the defendants because it puts the fear of God into the average taxpayer who is thinking about cheating on his taxes.
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Yes, I did hear that people prosecuted under these charges who are first time offenders typically get a slap on the wrist.
Also, I agree that attorneys typically get treated more harshly because they should know known better. But I’ve said all along that Hunter should suffer the consequences of his actions. That still has no bearing on Joe.
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So many Hunter haters.
You'll have to forgive me for thinking that maybe JB should just cash in one of his chits, because by my count he's got a few to spend.
Here's a recent rogues gallery of pardoned perjurers, inside traders, obstructionists and influence peddlers who didn't do a thing to turn their lives around or offset their crimes with good deeds.
Rod Blagojevich, Michael Milken, Joe Arpaio, Dinesh D'Souza, and Clint Lorance, Bernard Kerik. Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Stephen K. Bannon, George Papadopoulos,
Republican congressmen: Chris Collins, Duncan D. Hunter, Steve Stockman, Rick Renzi, Robin Hayes, Mark Siljander, and Randall "Duke" Cunningham. Lil Wayne , Kodak Black and Charles Kushner.
Trump did pardon Susan B Anthony. I think that was someones idea of an offset. (see above)
go on.
you know who you are.
blow your stacks.
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I’m not a Hunter hater, I just don’t care one way or another about him.
I do think that Joe should pardon him simply because most people in his position, who have committed these crimes, would have gotten off without much of a penalty. But the reality is that it isn’t politically acceptable to treat a Democrat fairly these days when they commit crimes.
Republicans seek parity under the legal system regardless if crimes have been committed or not. Their President has been impeached and prosecuted for the crimes he committed, therefore, Joe Biden should be impeached and prosecuted too DESPITE NO EVIDENCE OF ANY CRIMES COMMITTED BY HIM WHATSOEVER.
Equalize the playing field because our corruption must mean you’re also corrupt.
No, Republicans are much more corrupt. And Trump happens to be them most corrupt President in the history of this country.
So, Hunter will likely suffer because Republicans need a Democrat to be sacrificed to feel better about themselves. So be it.
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I am sure we will never hear full details of what the clintons had their hands into.
Bill Clinton was the Donald Trump of the democrats, a BS talking head - could look into anyones eyes and lie through his teeth.
regarding presidential pardons, an altruistic concept corrupted by politicians.
regardless i believe it would be wrong to remove the pardons, if that is required we have lost the republic.
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@Jackrabbit33
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I'm sorry, but I got triggered!
Judges have a lot of leeway in there sentencing unless it is something like a 3-strikes case, and this judge certainly had the right to do what he did. HE JUST SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID IT!
Had he not said anything it would have been OK, but now it sets a precedent (unless it gets overturned) that other defense attorneys can and will use.
If this is allowed to stand, we are going to see the biggest judicial shit-show in history over the next 20 years! Contentious opinions that could very well divide the populous even more than we are now. We are so close to civil war now that this could very well be the catalyst that triggers it.
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It's never OK!
To say it was OK, indicates you never received full satisfaction.
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100% Traitor Joe will pardon his son Hunter.
The excuse will be that Hunter has never done anything wrong, that he is just being targeted by Republicans to get back at Joe, and Hunter doesn't deserve that. He's a good boy who just suffered from drug addiction, but still has a good heart.
Hunter's as crooked as Bill Clinton's member.
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"But the reality is that it isn’t politically acceptable to treat a Democrat fairly these days when they commit crimes."
And, the MTG/AOC of HX has spoken........you cannot make these lines up folks!
And, on another note.......that judge is certifiable.
That white supremacist did the crime, he should do the time.
Seriously, this planet has a stupid virus that's WAY deadlier than Covid........in its own way.
Where the hell is Dumbo, he should be posting on this loony judge.
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Menendez is getting exactly what he deserves.
Hopefully, Gaetz will too.
Meanwhile, Fetterman continues to astonish.
Can't tell you how glad I am to see Lurch in action, Depression gone, kicking some ass.
Sure happy you Reps didn't get him booted.
One of the few decent Dems, like Manchin.
Thumbs up to Fetterman behind both Ukraine and Israel!!
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I’m happy Menendez is getting the book thrown at him. If you’re crooked, you should pay for your crimes.
I am sure most of you are not fans of Rachel Maddow, but if you catch her show today, she breaks down why the legitimacy of the bond posted by the California bank (that provided the $175 million bond for Trump so that he can appeal the NY bond case) is being questioned by Leticia James.
Apparently, the bank was under investigation in 2017, at which point Trump made that investigation disappear. It was being investigated for making usurious loans, charging 90%, 120%, and over 250% in commercial loans at times…even requiring daily payments.
Apparently that banks, originally Bank of Internet USA, now Axios Bank, provided the $175 million bond for Trump. The normal fee banks charge for bonds is between 1% to 3% of the bond amount. This crooked bank charged Trump MUCH LESS than the normal amount.
So the bank with usurious lending practices charged him less than what a typical bank would charge. What fucking idiots. That would obviously raise suspicions.
Interestingly, someone warned me about the founder of this bank years ago. The billionaire’s name is Hankey (you can’t forget a name like that). I was told that he made his money by making car loans with insane terms where the cars would almost always be repoed, so I didn’t even entertain approaching him. Of course Trump would be in bed with a guy like this.
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Every politician pulls this shit because most are on the take. I think Trump is a narcissistic asshole but in this regard he is just another politician.
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Watch Maddow lol? You must be kidding?
"I'd rather stick needles in my eyes" <---- famous line said by whom?
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BTW, if that Bank was making usurious loans in CA......where were the State regulators?
Cali is not exactly known for its laid-back regulators unless you're stealing money from the EDD.
I've only heard peripherally about this lender but Maddow I know.
Her job is to sell Rube Goldbergian conspiracy machinations to gullible delusional Progressives and she makes a fine living doing so. That's why she's an entertainment show, not a hard news show ......kind of like that freak that used to be on Fox, Tucker Carlson.
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There will be a hearing on April 22 to discuss this lender and the $175 million bond. More will be known then.
But if you’d like to know more now, the linked Rolling Stone story from March 2022 goes over the bank’s connection with Trump and Kushner. I believe they received $475 million in loans from this bank since Trump left office.
This may be a whole new can of worms that Trump just opened.
Linked:
The Totally Dodgy Backstory of the Bank that Just Refinanced Trump Tower
How Axos — a financial firm tied to GOP politics and high-profile lawsuits — became the Trumps' lender of last resort
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Can't you find a story from just one decent source?
Rolling Stone, for fuck sake?
Not saying the story is untrue but plenty of real journalists would have sourced it by now.
Rolling Stone is barely credible, even when they're just writing about who Mick Jagger is sleeping with lol
Hankey does sound a lot like Trump though, he'll be getting his MSM enema soon enough.......maybe he deserves one too.
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How about getting back to the topic of pardons, anyway.
It's more interesting than Orange man or Bribin'.
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Quoting Rolling Stone for fugggz sake. What a dimwhit
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Rumor is Political blogs need to move club echo chambers
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